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1 hour ago, KozzyCan said:

I find it really frustrating that the members were told we were aiming to play finals this year and contend deep into finals and the story has now completely shifted to 'rebuilding on the run'. If we were told we were rebuilding on the run at the start of the year that would have made this year a lot more palatable but it's pretty clear we've failed in our ambitions and are trying to spin it a different way in the back end of the season.

I thought that last year we were rebuilding on the run before it became something that lots of people said. I'm not claiming special insight but that was how it looked to me with Luke and Gus gone. I don't think the expression excludes making the finals, however. If you are easing a few kids in you'd still be looking to make finals for the opportunity to bring the young ones on as quickly as possible so I don't see it as the club spinning anything.

It's a frank admission of where we are at given our losses since the flag are substantial: Brayshaw, Jackson, Brown, Hibberd, Harmes, Jordon, effectively this year Spargo, and more importantly Burgo and Ooze. That is a lot of talent and fitness and footy smarts we are missing.

21 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

I am genuinely interested/curious how rest of year plays out.

Agree. We have won the first of four so-called winnable games. Hopefully we take the points in at least three of them. Then, the big test of how much we have or haven't improved is the final three weeks against teams playing for a finals or top four spot will really tell us how we're shaping for 2026. I'd want to see us win at least one, but hopefully two of the Bulldogs, Hawks or Filth, and be nothing less than competitive in any we don't win.

18 hours ago, Redleg said:

Not sure I agree with him.

Pretty sure I don't. One former Demon with a solid CV in assistant coaching who I would hope is in the frame once Simon finishes is Cam Bruce. His time at Hawthorn and Brisbane as assistant includes multiple premierships which, while not his responsibility, shows he has seen how it's done. And he's had a different kind of experience at Carlton.

Bruce's CV vastly outweighs anything Jones is going to be able to present. Assuming he wants to step up to the main job, of course.

9 hours ago, Demon Jack said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seemed as though The DeeBrief guys were having a crack at Goody for not playing Nathan Jones in the GF. Didn't NJ leave the Perth hub during the '21 grand final week to be with his wife who was about to give birth to twins?

Also, while I agree that change is desperately needed, can we please never consider Nathan Buckley as the coach of the Melbourne Football Club ever again?

True, but I think the decision to leave was only finally crunched when he was told he would not be in the GF side.

I admire these guys for their commitment but their opinions are no more valid than some of the bitter, doomsaying Dees fans I already avoid.

In fact, to call them superficial, lightweight , knee-[censored] and reactive about sums them up.

But they care and if you need someone to vent on your behalf, these blokes will get the job done.

Just don't expect anyone to take it too seriously.

(And maybe I'm getting old but could they lay off the F-bombs?)

15 hours ago, The heart beats true said:

Shane Warne Stand, and that’s the only information I’ll divulge. I LOVE going to the footy by myself, not having to talk to anyone, and getting fully engrossed in the game. 😂

Thanks for the reply. I was looking at the Trident waitlist as I normally sit in the MCC area but I am sick of sharing the space - and being outnumbered - with opposition supporters. I was assuming I'd still be on the northern stand side. But I noticed that some Warne stand Trident seats are better positioned and might have to consider them if the opportunity arises.

I'll seek no more information from yae, and should I proceed I'll make a point of not disturbing the Solitary Silent One. 🤫🤫

On 27/06/2025 at 09:13, The heart beats true said:

Members dropping off can be an opportunity. I upgraded my membership from a Reserved Seat to a Trident this year, and it’s been so good.

The Trident seating is brilliant. I love having access to the premium members rooms. I love sitting on level 2A.

Northern Stand or Shane Warne Stand?

17 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Also think Jeffo is getting judged a little harshly. He hit 2 targets inside 50 today (JVR and Kolt for the unpaid free kick) which alone puts him ahead of most of the side. Give him one more against a lesser opposition.

This absolutely. Also with a Kossie goal assist out of a contest.

Well done Ross Lyon for calling out the Daicos friendly umpiring.

Awww Geee...are the farmers gonna hafta drive home with their pants around their ankles cos the [censored] stank up the game.

So sad.

I feel for them.

BTW is Bailey Smith the single most over rated [censored] in the game?

1 minute ago, ElDiablo14 said:

So creative that we are just lost out in the wilderness when it comes to kicking at goal? Mind you, it's been the same issues for 4 years.

Yep. You'll see elsewhere that goal kicking is a big bugbear of mine too. The creativity I mention is upfield and how we move the ball. The goal kicking is so fundamental I am mystified why it can't be better addressed by line coaches and head shrinkers.

I had some bloke tell me last week that we had the best list in the AFL. That's the sort of nonsense that is thrown around after you win a flag. The same sort of people earlier this year and for the past couple of years have said the Dogs have the best list. Also nonsense although the Darcy kid elevates them a bit.

The truth about 2021 is that we had one of the best few teams in the competition and we had a great run with injuries with only Jayden Hunt unavailable in the immediate preview of the finals. And even Hunt could have been selected by the first week of the finals but he had lost his place in the team and Goodwin was keeping a winning group together.

In the two years afterwards we were cruelled by injuries to key players at key times and that famed list was nowhere near as good as it seemed. In fact, it was, and is shallow even though I agree there are some promising kids developing now.

Goodwin did a great job with the list he had and ran with his luck. He is now trying to craft this group that won a flag with one style of play into something that competes with a very different style. It is a work in progress. He has not lost the players. Some time next year, as his contract begins to peter out, we'll make a call on whether he stays or goes. Given this year is pretty much shot I reckon we sit tight and see just how creative he can be. He still has the players and some coaches improve over time. Goodwin might be one such.

1 hour ago, Travy14 said:

Gents, not a great game.

Also, people need to get over Max's goal kicking, he isn't a good kick. No player can do everything, and Max can do pretty much everything except that, take the good with the bad and relish it whilst we still can!

I disagree. Kicking is the most fundamental skill in the game. It's called football, after all.

Max is a champion and an all time great of the club. Nobody could dispute that. Also, he is a wonderful ambassador for the club who is respected almost universally by football followers.

But the raw facts are that he has a serious, match-losing flaw in his game and it is one that can be corrected with application, with a routine and with practice. As captain I believe he has a role in showing to the rest of the list that constant improvement is what the game demands, and no-one is exempt from it. Not even mighty Max.

1 hour ago, Wells 11 said:

It’s an obvious observation but we’re playing good enough footy to win these kind of matches. We’re doing such a lot right… but our kicking for goal isn’t just “ bad” it’s at PTSD levels now and is killing us.

Max is a case in point. He was never great, Maybe a 60/40 proposition or maybe even just 50/50 but he’s kicked 2.13 this year and looks utterly at sea in his goal kicking routine. I honestly think many in this team are now mentally scarred. Trac looks the same… as does Petty.

It’s about more than practice now… I think it’s psychological and I just don’t see how this is going to end. Any thoughts?

Agree but as of yesterday I think he's at 2.15.

Did anyone notice that after Max marked on his chest directly in front of goal that he prepared for the kick by walking, with his back turned on the goal, AT AN ANGLE that increased the degree of difficulty of kicking the goal?

He actually set off from a point pretty much in line with the outer boundary of the goal square, so he could have taken his kick from directly in front, instead of at an angle. Of course, he missed.

Back in round 1 2018 Max's inability to kick accurately from directly in front cost us a win against Geelong. Despite his 2021 heroics in the preliminary final and round 22 against Geelong, this has been a costly recurring problem.

Basic (secondary) question: If the captain cannot be persuaded to correct his one serious flaw, how can any player be made to do so?

Little wonder we are the only team to have registered more points than goals in 2025.

14 minutes ago, picket fence said:

How does Eric Hipwood continue to get gifted games?? Another substandard effort from him yet again!

No, not Hipwood substandard. That was Hipwood typical. A fraud even though he did have a glorious match winning 10 minutes against us. He really is a chronic under performer.

It's sad to think how much more complete we would be with Jesse in our ranks now.

But happy for him to see some success.

Huge for the club. Really exciting news.

3 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

I used to love Peter Woss Edwoods of the Wiberal Nationwool Party to.

Also a Demon supporter!

What is the point of the club's website? I ask myself, as on the eve of the game there is no team list and nothing new over the past three days.

Thanks WJ & ANDY FOR DEMONLAND.

2 hours ago, sue said:

Interesting. Could it be a deliberate tactic rather than plain old nastiness? Perhaps a forced delay to stop the oppo playing quickly is of more use these days than a 50m penalty deep in defence which give time for opponents to organise, so it's worth the risk of a 50m.

Sure, it's a tactic to slow up play and enable the filth to set up defensively. But the point is he is allowed to get away with it, mainly, I suspect because the umpires are cowed by the Collingwood mob in full voice, as they were last week when the Hawks were on the receiving end.

Stuff he is excused over would see our blokes punished every time. Count on it.

Watch the number of times Howe pushes his opponent in the back once beaten in a marking contest but don’t count on a 50 metre penalty. He got away with it multiple times against Hawthorn last week.

To answer a query above: On the few occasions I have attended training there has NEVER been a concerted systematic goal kicking session. Not varied angles or distances or even more than a handful of shots.

Is it done secretly at Casey Fields? Old style full forwards supposedly had 100 shots at or separate to training.

If Max won’t bother to fix his goal kicking issues what hope have we?

Yes, he did. Maybe making it a family tradition.

Discipline. Nowhere have I seen or heard anyone congratulate the Dees on their discipline yesterday.

In the face of some of the most appalling umpiring ever witnessed at any level, never did I see Dees players show the sort of dissent that has you penalised 50 meters or worse.

The players copped it sweet. Even Kozzie who had every right to go ballistic, so congratulation fellas, and Simon Goodwin for drilling into them where to direct their energy.

For those who weren't there and who can't face the replay, the umpiring was bad but worst for the Dees. I have only just remembered the free to Watson for McDonald's attempted spoil. (Resulted in a goal to Watson, who, unlike our blokes knows how to find the space between the big ones.) There appeared no contact at all. And since when can't you bump a player when he's disposing of the ball? We copped two of those. It was kiddie rules.

One bloke behind me (MCC) shredded his throat all afternoon venting at those clowns, which saved me the same. He had a moustache like Lever and I reckon this morning he sounds like a post-game Jake as well.

If you read this, I feel for you, mate.