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3 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

If the Dorks are to come into the AFLW next year (i'm already of the belief the expansion of the AFLW has been too rapid and spread the talent way too thin), i'd assume she'd be playing for them.

Hope we get to see her going around in the red+blue again.

no chance now that there will not be a VFL season this year.

28 minutes ago, binman said:

Pain might be good. They often say acls etc don't involve a huge amount of pain

Tearing an ACL hurts a lot, but the pain settles down after a while.

The midfield all year has become too one dimensional and predictable. Gawn and 3 similar hard at the ball types. There is lack of spread as all 3 are attacking the ball and getting killed when the ball is turned over by all being too close the contest. You see it when 1 opposition player handballs or pushes the ball out wide and off the it goes

Plan B is to put more ball hunters in there like Petracca.

Need to include the better users of the ball (Salem,  Hibberd & Melksham - when back from injury) in there AND players that will play the role and stay outside and add some pace (perhaps Hunt, Baker or Fritsch).

2 hours ago, DemonLad5 said:

Why? We have Preuss and another ruck would take minutes off Bradtke 

Bradke will play as much ruck as the King twins

15 hours ago, ProDee said:

I'm just not a fan of playing Preuss and Gawn.  I very much doubt it's sustainable.  I see it only happening on the odd occasion and it will largely depend on matchups.  If I'm wrong I'm wrong.  I won't be.

 

You will be wrong, Preuss came across because Melbourne said that they will play him and Gawn. Typical set-up will be Tom McD at CHF leading way up. Weids at FF leading to the ball carrier and resting ruckman in the forward pocket or on the bench. You will also see Weids and Tom McD play very little ruck; this hurt Melbourne when they did that last year as they started losing most of the centre breaks.

They will try and use Gawn's and Preuss' height to stretch defence match-ups, might even force some teams to play their second ruckman in defence.

I think North may have decided that Daw is their backup ruckman; interesting call as he has been great as an interceptor.

I think that the Melbourne Rucks next year will be Gawn, and Preuss, with Weids and McDonald as the fwd/ruck change-ups and Bradke as the developing ruckman.

MCG, check

Rain, check

Crap opposition, check

 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is the crap about Oscar in the article? Two of Brown's goals were from frees not related to Oscar. One other goals was from a push in the back to Oscar similar to the one given by Gawn to Brown in the ruck.

And Melksham plays a different role to Brayshaw; he tags and plays defensive forward. Two roles I have not seen Brayshaw play with any success. Brayshaw would be back-up for the Oliver, Jones, Viney, Tyson, ANB and Salem role of winning the ball around stoppages.

On 30/03/2018 at 2:11 PM, Deemented Are Go! said:

Didn’t Dermie play for Franga back in the day? 

Frankston Bombers, which is a different club 

Didn't Rory tell Bernie "I am not your mate, Bernie"? Why would he want to join him then?

30 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

FB: Hibberd   Oscar   Jetta
HB: Hunt   Lever  Lewis
C: Jones  Oliver   Harmes
HF: ANB   Hogan  Melksham
FF: Fritsch   Pedersen  Hannan
Foll: Gawn  Petracca   Salem
Int: Vince, Brayshaw, Tyson, BuggE: Frost, Stretch, Garlett
 

I like this team; I think that Garlett will get in before many here (Fritsch, Hannan, Harmes and ANB).

My guess would be Garlett in and Harmes in the Emergencies.

Teamname: RedSoxxers

Can I get an invite to a league? 

Thanks!

2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Since it's going to be peer reviewed I guess it will have to be scientific.

I always insist on a "beer review" myself.

11 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I'm going to need hard facts. I hope you kept a journal.

you said unscientific, now you want scientific.........

8 hours ago, Demonland said:

One of the reasons for this to accommodate curtain raisers to some matches which could be a good thing.

I like the pre-game warmup because I am conducting an unscientific study on the correlation between warmup kicking for goals and the in-game goal kicking to see if the warmup is an accurate guage. Results so far are inconclusive. 

I can contribute to this study. Adem Yze seemed to never miss a shot on goal (during the game) if he missed every shot in the warm-up.

But this theory never worked with Neitz, as he needed a set shot from the goal square or a handball over the top to get over his "kicking for goal nerves" for that game. Once he got his first he could nail them from anywhere.

Reading about Bradley Wiggins, and the parallels with Essendon is eerie.

Wiggins denied "any drug was used without medical need."

But the report from a committee investigating doping since 2015 casts doubt on the integrity of the team and their failure to keep accurate medical records.

Article:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cycling/anti-doping-report-calls-wiggins-2012-tour-de-france-prep-into-question-20180305-p4z2vb.html

Did anyone look at Hawthorns results?

They won 6 1/2 games out of the last 10. Losing by 3pt to Geelong, 29pts to Richmond and 7pts to Carlton.

They beat Adelaide, Collingwood (we couldn't), Sydney, Freo (by 52pts), North (we couldn't). and the Bulldogs and drew with GWS.

Hawthorn might have played the kids, but they did not tank. 

They 'analyse' 13 teams that can make the 8; with 8 teams could make the top 4.

On the other side, they only have 6 teams that can make the bottom six, so lock in Saints, Freo, Brisbane, Carlton, GCS and North. But only Carlton, GCS and North can finish bottom.

I distributed their predictions and their ladder looks like:

On 2/12/2018 at 4:42 PM, DeeSpencer said:

Top 10 
1. Matt Crouch 315
2. Rory Sloane 253
3. Rory Laird 226
4. Sam Jacobs 224
5. Richard Douglas 219
6. Taylor Walker 211
7. Tom Lynch 203
8. Brad Crouch 194
9. Brodie Smith 194
10. Eddie Betts 187

10 handy players who beat him. 

I have my concerns that we paid too much at the trade table and that we'll also have to temper expectations because he played in a very good team with a lot of support - a excellent CHB in Talia, a decent other tall in Hartigan and 2 excellent flankers to move the ball in Laird and Smith helped him play his role.

He also plays a fairly risky game backing himself to zone off and be the interceptor. 

All of that said when he's having a good game he's an exceptional interceptor and can control a game. Plus is young enough to keep improving and the right kind of leader.

On 2/12/2018 at 12:22 PM, Farmer said:

Reading that young Jake ( to whom we are paying a fortune) managed to finish 11th in the Adelaide   B and F,  prompted dark thoughts.

is it possible that both Jake and big Johnny Tilbrook have the same player agents? I recall that we bet the Members' Stand on  Tilbrook, to very little effect.

Missed 5.5 games with a hammies last year. It was for this reason he was not top 10 or even top 5 (look how close the points spread is from 3+)

http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/120340/Jake-LEVER

This article explains a lot too about what attracted Melbourne

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-22/why-are-clubs-so-keen-to-lure-jake-lever

15 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

We picked jetta's cousin in stead, it was topical Brendan recruiting  picking speed over substance and work ethic

We took Bennell earlier and Jetta later.

Melbourne lost Scully for about the same differential amount per year as Adelaide lost Lever and nobody (as in Melbourne players) are begrudging him in taking the money.

Tex just needs to get over it and understand that sometimes players want what the market price is for them; it is fine for him to make that sacrifice, but he cannot make it for Lever.

Tommy McD is probably the next option after Pederson, with Mitch King developing. I also expect them to draft another on the primary list or rookie list

19 minutes ago, Bring Back Barassi said:

Luke Ball said he would not play for any club other than Collingwood, and if anyone picked him he would sit out the season. From memory i think he got picked at 30, Saints got nothing

Luke Ball only played 81 games for Collingwood, Lever will be a 10+ year player for Melbourne.

Pick 30 was probably too high for a midfielder who averaged 20.8 poss/game (for Collingwood) and 20.4 (career).

25 minutes ago, manny100 said:

Hmmmm, value dropped a tad today, looked to big and slow for the smalls. Will not be tall enough or strong enough to play on the bigger talls.

Lucky for him most teams have 3rd tall forwards and he can play the intercept role.

 

Jake Level is 1cm taller than TMcD..... i would think that Hibberd would be getting a small to pick up first.

What is Lever actually worth?

Scenario I

He nominates for the draft; nominating a $ amount he and his 'nominated club' are happy with. That club picks him up with a draft pick. If that club was Melbourne it would likely be  pick 10. I am not sure if any club has ever taken a player who has walked out on a club and not nominated them. Melbourne threatened to do this to Luke Ball but didn't.

Scenario II

Lever is a free agent. I know that this is a stretch, but the rumored contract amount of $800k per season would likely see Adelaide get a 1st round pick after their first round pick of 17 or 18.

Scenario III

Teams get in a bidding war for Lever. This is likely if he doesn't nominate early. Some teams have a lot more leverage here (pun intended); but they have to convince Lever to come. I can only see Adelaide getting a lower 1 round pick like from Saints, Kangas, or Doggies, and not any more picks.

So I can see that Adelaide will probably accept a 1st and 2nd round as the best that they will get; but I will not be surprised if the deal is more convoluted with movement of other players (like Gibbs). And Melbourne may be prepared to give up a Adelaide boy like Stretch or ANB; who would suit Adelaide's needs.