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200 games is a lot. We've had less than 30 in our entire history.

Surprised this has got to 4 pages. There is zero chance of Caro's reporting being true.

Henderson is [censored]. Tholstrup straight in next week for him if match fit.

Dees by 19. Fritsch to fire with 4.

A premiership isn't won in single game, it's a season worth of results and we were incredible that year. Start to finish, it was one of the more dominant seasons in the 2000s. We won 20 games for the year, including streaks of nine and seven, and a massive come from behind win in Geelong to seal the minor premiership. Of the four losses, the largest was 20 points. Our finals campaign included an easy win against Brisbane, a belting of Geelong, then the Grand Final. Teams can't do this sort of thing without a great coach. Goodwin's issue seems to be the complacency in the years following. Stubborness with the gameplan, misfires in recruiting and drafting, and letting poor behaviours creep into the culture.

Maybe the onus is on Tom to play more than 3 good games before he gets a shot.

I'll move on. Losing is easier when we're not contending for the flag.

Might be time for Turner to go back again? Showed some promise there before his move forward.

I have. We were in just as bad form last year and got it done against the Bombers. I don't rate Essendon at all. Merrett is a freak, otherwise there isn't much in their team that i'm scared of. Even the worst teams win games, usually 3 or 4. If Lever comes back it gives us arguably our best team (on-paper) so far this year. May and Kozz with games under their belt, hopefully Windsor is better with some consistency too. I understand that we look horrible but i'm not going into every game thinking it's an automatic loss, and the Bombers are a team i'd particularly highlight as opportunity for a win.

Essendon are no good and getting a lead will surely cause them jitters. We can absolutely win this game.

If the season finished today, our first pick would be 20, and that doesn't factor the pick sliding from academy and father-son players. Essendon holds our first round pick. There is no incentive for us to tank this year other than the development of young players.

Reckon the bombers would give our first pick back for trac?

I'd love to keep these two, and Kozzy, but at least one needs to go. Why? We need picks to regenerate the list. I'm terrified about the future of our backline, there's no KPD repalcements in sight and they take time to develop. We need to draft someone this year.

Have been saying for the last two years that we needed to draft a defender. Now May is clearly in decline and Petty looks [censored], while Adams is doing nothing at Casey.

Give that 16yo a 10kg weighted vest, make them run 2km, then make the sprint as hard as they can for 50m, then ask them to execute it. Now make them repeat that 20 times. Throw in being bumped and tackled throughout. How well would they go now?

Collingwood gave up their future to get Schultz and Houston. Schultz has been very average, not worth the first round pick they gave up. McStay has spent more time in rehab than playing (22 of possible 73 games since he got to Collingwood). Way to early to make a call on Perryman and Membrey. They were average last year and their 3-1 record this year has been far from impressive.

Agreed, but i'd be happy if they said "one more week" to Riv, promising him back to midfield next week when Lever is back.

Yep, awful timing for it. My feedback was not great at all.

If no AJ, does that mean JVR is back in the ruck? I was fully against it after last year but maybe it's a way to help him find form.

That's very good. Based on this we'd have all but three players available for Richmond on ANZAC Eve.

We looked like contenders while the Hawks only had 2 wins. Crazy how quickly it changed. That goal from Fritsch is an all-time MFC highlight. The rundown tackle and goal from Windsor was also an amazing moment for a first year player.

He would still be playing VFL if we kept him on the list. More dissapointed that we haven't drafted another KPD to get ready for life after May and McDonald. Cupboard is bare if Adams isn't up to it.

When we signed Brayshaw, Petracca, Oliver etc. to long contracts, in face of rumours of the first two leaving, it was seen by most members as a sign of how strong the club had become. Now they are 'bad contracts'...

Frustratingly we have an injury list that is heavy on <22's. Windsor, Tholstrup, McVee, Jefferson, Lindsay... all should be playing when they're fit in 3-4 weeks time.

Big issue is that fans won't want to rock up to games now, it's clear we all want to see the back of Goodwin. There's no-one else in the coaching panel that would inspire the fanbase though. I assume Chaplin would take over as interim; that doesn't excite me at all. At least at one stage we had T Viney and Yze around. Jones is in the box but a mile off it and right now looks like a questionable hire.