Deedubs

39 minutes ago, COVID Dan said:

Agree, Im all for keeping it clean, but the interpretation and consistency of what is dangerous is just more confusion.

I seriously could not explain to anyone anymore what holding the ball is now. I honestly don't blame the umpires, I blame the AFL for making it such a joke to umpire.

And on top of that, how do you justify such huge free kick counts and differentials. No wonder people are turning off.

I agree. The whistle goes off every 30 seconds. 

18 minutes ago, tiers said:

Of course it was a dangerous tackle. Ed was driven into the ground.

If he had hit his head it would have been at least 2 weeks c/f Kade Chandler's penalty for much the same action but different outcome.

Will the AFL ever realise that a dangerous tackle is always a dangerous tackle even when the head id not affected? I have serious doubts that they will.

since when is 'driven into the ground' considered dangerous? Every tackle involves taking a player to the ground. It was a perfect tackle and yes he drove him into the ground. 

Kade Chandler's tackle was completely different. Chandler's tackle was a chase down tackle, he had both his arms pinned and didn't turn him over. Tarryn Thomas didn't even hit him at speed. It was off a few steps. You realise that whether a player hits his head or not is completely irrelevant. SO if the AFL isn't soft enough, now you want to outlaw fair tackles? It's already becoming a game of netball. 
 

2 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Is a "dangerous tackle" a category of free kick or just something that we all seem to think exists? If so, is that what was paid? And if it was what was paid, should it have been?

Yeah I believe the decision was 'dangerous tackle'. But usually that's got to be like a 2 motion dump or sling. 

1 hour ago, COVID Dan said:

I thought this weekend we got a pretty good run with the umpires. Was nice to be on the positive end of this for once, but I still don't like it. There shouldn't be the gaps in interpretation and consistency that there are. 

I know many won't agree, but it questions the games integrity.  

Keep up the good work AFL. 

I'm still not sure how the Langdon tackle was called a free. If a player is outstretched, there's nothing wrong with trying to break his ribs in a bone crunching tackle. There was not sling, there was no 2 motions. a horrific decision that resulted in a goal for us.

Any week now and I think a decision will be made by both Jackson and Brayshaw. I think maybe during our bye. 

2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Give it a rest will you please

Will do. But if we start dropping games against semi-decent teams regularly I'm going to keep people accountable for refusing to look at exposed form and sticking their head in the sand. 

6 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Imagine if you were a Lions or Dockers supporter this weekend. Your membership would be in the microwave, and you'd be calling for Fagan and Longmuir to be sacked.

I won't deny it, I am reactionary. 

4 minutes ago, Smokey said:

@Deedubs Any more pearls of wisdom on how bad we are? I mean two games clear on top with fat percentage isn’t enough I reckon. Should be 12 games clear by now right? 

We haven't played anyone in the top 4 and only 2 of the top 8 teams. We have a very hard fixture coming home. 

I wouldn't have expected us to lose to WCE or North the last 2 weeks...so the last fortnight has taught us nothing other than we make every game a grind regardless of how bad the opponent is. 

2 hours ago, loges said:

Be very interested to see what you say if we win next week.

If we win next week I'll be very happy. no-one will be barracking harder. 

1 hour ago, von said:

Did you not learn anything watching the journey that was last year. Remember losing a couple of games just like yesterdays?

Watching the GWS vs WC game today shows me just how off we are. Gws up by 54 at half time. Instead, we get outplayed by a half. But it's apparently ok because its 'not our style'. It's no surprised Kangaroos outplayed us for a large chunk of the game too. 

Next week is a big test because we are miles off at the moment. Like how about our defensive zone after a behind? we just get sliced through with ease every time. Need to short that s*** out asap. 

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Brown just about never but I’m fairly sure Tom did it in the last few weeks.

McDonald’s 11 pressure acts is very solid for a key forward. Miles ahead of Weid’s 5.6. (And Brown’s 6). 

Maybe JVR could be at 8-10 pressure acts and lay a few tackles, but his VFL form just hasn’t suggested he’s a reliable goal kicker or mark at that level yet. 1 good game isn’t enough for a debut.

Watch this video from a week and a half ago. Choco isn’t pushing JVR as ready to go at all

 

Brown had a couple of goal assists, took a nice clunk mark and missed a sitter. Bought it to the ground at times fairly well. Walker and Corr played him well, the delivery was awful and McDonald, Fritsch and Gawn got the shots at goal this week. Weid’s had a good chance this year, he hasn’t delivered. 

geez mate, you're setting the bar pretty low there. Give me a jumper and I'll bring it to ground. I do agree that the delivery was poor and our midfield alignment into the f50 is terrible these days.  

This is why he should never ever be played in the forward line. One of the worst kicks for goal in the league. comfortably. 

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

A teenage tall who probably blows up by half time and Weideman, who hasn’t chased down anyone since 2018 isn’t going to fix our lack of speed in the forward line.

Tom might need a rest if he’s injured but otherwise he’s doing his job since he came back in to the side.

Brown and Weid are pretty much the same player defensively but in attack Brown’s worst days are less frequent and less bad. 

Brown is the one player from our list that I think should be managed through the season like he was last year. There was a good argument not to take him to Perth and/or to avoid 6 day breaks. But he also needs continuity and unless he plays a true shocker I’d lock him in for the next 3 weeks before the bye.

When is the last time Ben Brown or Tom Mcdonald chased someone down from behind? 

Mate Brown kicked 0 goals with 74 inside 50's. That's a true shocker.

Out: Langdon, Ben Brown, T.Mcdonald, Melksham.
In: Viney, JVR, Weideman, Bedford

I just thought we looked super slow in the forward line. Weideman and Bedford help with that. 

With the form that we're in, we're losing to Freo (play them twice), Carlton, Sydney, Brisbane twice. Geelong (GMHBA) and maybe the dogs. That's 7-8 losses if we continue to play this poorly. 

 

Another bad game where it took us 3 quarters to win the game against a very very very poor team. 

 

if we play like we have the last 2 weeks, the other top 4 teams beat us by 12 goals.Getting smashed in the middle by North bloody melbourne of all teams. 

This lacklustre effort was evident in a half against WCE. Fans chose to ignore it because we won by 74 in junk time. 

Just now, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Can we please get out of second gear at some stage this season

Never. it's a habit now. We always play in 2nd gear. it's extremely concerning but some supporters love to look the other way. 

Goodwin: 'We respect every opposition that we play'. Yawn. The players don't play like they do. All talk.

typical slow start.

McDonald should've snapped that.

He definitely looked great as a defender in the Under 18 champs. I could've sworn we were going to play him there. Oh well, the MFC know what they're doing. 

Go dees. My wish list:
- Fritsch to score minimum of 3 snags
- defensive pressure well up in the midfield especially.
- Lever to get some touch back.
- Keep them to under 55.
- Oliver to have a blinder and overtake Cripps in the Coaches award, back to back!
- Sparrow to hit some finals Sparrow form. 
-Win by 60+. 

1 hour ago, 4_Kent_Watts said:

Once at the start of each quarter. JMO.

Yeah I don't mind this. keep a bit of tradition. It'll definitely suit the taller rucks if they throw it up.