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Neither you nor I know the answer to this. Maybe there is no huge cap space Perhaps the recent long term re-signings are back loaded to 2024 and beyond. Perhaps we have another re-signing to do over summer that involves more money (eg JVR, Petty, Bowey?). Perhaps Harmes was not on that much for 2024. It's all guess work and assumptions from us, KITP!

Did anyone from the club state this, or is it a media and Demonland myth? That we have been moving up the draft board indicates we plan to focus our resources on draft night

We have not been a destination club for good forwards since BBB came across (surely no one would deny he was not important to our flag season?). But we have been a destination club for backs, rucks and wings over the last 5 years or so: May, Lever, Langdon and Grundy

Should all of those guys be uninjured, fit and in some sort of form, sure, we have a reasonable forward line. Some you list I personally do not rate, but that's by the by. Yet, Petty has had a horror run with injuries and JVR is still very much learning his trade. BBB and Tmac are struggling and appear to be cooked. We can only judge on what we've seen across the last season or two I think Collingwood's front half, with the addition of Schultz is the better by some margin, but its almost a moot point, because of the way the two teams play and connect with their forwards. Our midfield/foward connection is more important to fix than changing the personnel. Do this and we can succeed with Petty, JVR, Fritter and some of the others, assuming they are on the park Having said that, if a FA key forward like King chose us next year, I'd be wrapped. Petty as 2nd tall and JVR as 3rd would be awsome. Would lift us from average forward line to top 3 in the comp

If WCE are confident Curtain will still be there at 6, why would they use pick 2 on him and then only get 2 x late 1sts? Wouldn't it make sense to get 6, 11 and a 2024 late 1st from us and use 6 on Curtain? I think for Norf to get Reid, WCE they'll need to give up 2 + 3 for 1 + a 2nd or F2nd rounder and then trade 2 or 3 for a top 10 + a pick in the early teens. These could be future selections. WCE get Curtain, maybe Conner O'Sullivan and Archer Reid If this happens, would we do 6 + 11 for 2? ie. McKercher or Duursma

Yep, WCE should be using pick 1 to get at least 2 picks inside 10 or 15. A number of draft watchers say this year it drops off significantly after that

FMD, you must be real fun at parties 🥱

What about 6, 11 and Riv?

Ok, your dck is bigger than mine. But you missed my point completely

Yes, I'd rather recruit this Darling

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Yep, WC getting 2 x $800k off their books for a cooked player is a bonus for them, it's not giving up something of value. Would be like us offering BBB, Tmac and 6 for pick 1 If this story is true, how's the disrespect they are showing him with 2 years left on contract, 500 goals to his name and being a local boy with established fam. It'd be akin to killing bambi

Trade up, trade up, trade up! Let's do whatever it takes with our picks to get Reid or McKercher We need the next generation of A grade mids coming through Reid this year would be brilliant

Don't be so abrasive!

You mean, like, Jefferson and JVR, our last two top picks?

Some are saying this year's draft talent drops off significantly after about 8. I'd be happy if we tried to get 7 off GCS, either as part of player salary cap dump, or a trade of picks

I forgot we picked Petty as part of that trade. Taylor and Lamby: pure gold

Rather see her walk into HS nude

Grundy, even though it failed. Was to be kind of a replacement for Dogga

Or for 1, we could just give WCE picks 6, 10 and F1st and keep 11. Or for 1, give WCE 6, 11 and F1st and keep Petty I can only see Norf getting 1 if they give up 2 and 3, or split one of these to get another pick inside 10 These convoluted mega trades do my head in

So we have 6, 11 , 41 and 46. What's next Lamby?

Should we get 7 + Haynes as a salary dump, it will be interesting to see what happens with Petty. Could we realistically end up with 5, 7, 10 and 11? To be partially mixed into a bid for 1?

Huh? You don't want us trading 2nd rounders to move up to get a better young player for the future, but you do???

Does that mean aim to use up all out picks this year (except one for Pup Brown) and a first from 2024 on Harley Reid? Oh, and McAdam and Fullerton, I guess That's some belief the club must have in him

You mean, like, the Jackson trade (pick 15, 6 and 25)? Or a measly 2nd rounder for Langdon. BBB cost us little, too Cheer up Red!