Dee man
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With Gawn and Grundy both in excellent form, I think they're both on track to make the team - one on the ground, one on the bench.
Hogan is definitely worthy of a forward or bench spot. If he finishes in the top 5 of the Coleman and continues to average 20 touches a game I can't see how they could not reward him, but Brad Green circa 2010 says hi.
While Oliver is having as good as season as he had last year (if not better), I fear he might miss out again. As we saw with Jmac and Jones struggling to get a bench spot during their B+F years, it seems to takes a phenomenal season for someone to get rewarded with All Australia midfield selection. Our even spread may work to his disadvantage.
Hibberd and Jetta have both been down on their 2017 form with glimpses of brilliance (Hibberd last week, Jetta this week) and I don't think either deserve to make it unless they consistently play games like those in the 2nd half of the year. You only need to look at the Demonland leaderboard on the right hand side of the page to see that not even we, diehard fans and members of the Jetta church, have rated those guys that highly this year. At their best, both are no doubt among the best defenders in the game, as is Lever, but I think the All Australian team tends to reward consistent excellence. Furthermore, the All Australian tends to reward guys with great stats and Jetta's numbers are rarely that high.
With that said, there have been plenty of selections based on media hype so if the Demon fugazi continues, the whole 22 should be in with a chance.
My smokies, for what it's worth, are Oscar McDonald - who would surely be high on the reverse Coleman at the moment - and Christian Petracca - who is quietly averaging 21 disposals and 0.8 goals a game playing mainly as a forward. If he can get 30 goals for the season he could sneak into the forward pocket.
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6 Melksham
5 Lever
4 Brayshaw
3 Jones
2 T McDonald
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Anyone know who the Gosch's paddock/Casey Fields dimensions compare to MCG/Etihad Stadium?
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Perfect opportunity to bring Trengove back into the team, ay?
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I'd hate to argue with one of the positive statements, but that was definitely not Jones' career best game! Thought he was a little sloppier than usual and on a good day those 3 behinds would have been at least 2 goals. But yes, he was good as usual.
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Jones has been one of our best kicks for years (I'd argue since he won his first B+F), but was prone to clangers because he was often under immense pressure, had to kick quickly, or had ordinary players as his targets. I can't stand it when people describe Jones as merely a "grunt player" or "not being blessed with natural skills" - it's a stupid footy cliche said by media personalities who watch one Demons game a month. Jones has been a skillful player for many years - he just doesn't have the block locks to go with it.
The more he gets the freedom to play as an outside midfielder or half-back flanker, the better his kicking looks. I wouldn't be surprised if he finally gets an All Australian guernsey this year or in a few years time as a half back flanker.
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-07/afl-players-top-50-the-day-max-gawn-became-invincible
The pre-season hype continues, with our fourth player included in this year's AFL Players top 50, a ranking voted by the players themselves.
17. Max Gawn
33. Nathan Jones
44. Jordan Lewis
50. Jack Viney
It's hard to remember any point in recent history that we've had this many players considered among the competition's best (perhaps White/Yze/Neitz/Bruce back in the early 2000s?). It's a far nicer feeling than opening up Mike Sheehan/Robbo's top 50 to find Nathan Jones buried in the "players who just missed out" section.-
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I completely agree and was going to post something very similar myself. Ask any sportsperson - a premiership is a premiership, regardless of what level it's won at. Winning a flag (and at the very least, getting deep finals experience) surely can do great things to unite a group of players, particularly young players, and set this club up well for the future.
You only need to look at the recent VFL success of teams like Box Hill (Hawthorn) and Geelong to realise the importance of having a strong and successful VFL side.
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Found these great articles as well. Exciting times ahead!
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/copy-cats-20100425-tlpw.html
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Harry O'Brien used to tear it up against us.
Whatever happened to that lad?
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6 Gawn - 63 hitouts against the best ruckman in the game. Amazing!
5 Viney - his last quarter almost got us over the line
4 Lumumba - possibly his best game for the club. Don't think he got caught at all today.
3 Vince - was always around when we needed him
2 Oliver - clearance machine!
1 Kent - would have got the 6 votes if he snatched those other 2 goals -
6 Viney
5 Watts
4 N Jones
3 McDonald
2 Kennedy
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If we wanted a proper crack at finals next year, I wouldn't be opposed to bringing in James Kelly or Jed Adcock for a year or two to see if they can give us some Daniel Cross-esque experience. One year from these guys is probably more use to us than another year of Terlich in the seconds.
However, it looks like Mahoney isn't interested in picking up any DFA (he said that before the recent delistings of Moore and Grant, though).
Will be interesting to see if Jamar gets a run anywhere - surely a team like Essendon could use an extra ruckman.
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Out: Pedersen (but only if injured)
In: Dawes
Michie didn't add anything as the sub, but shifting players in and out of the team can't be helpful. I'd keep him, unless JKH is fit and firing, or one of the other guys makes a speedy recovery. Otherwise, bringing in Bail, Newton, or Terlich just creates unnecessary instability.
Was actually pretty impressed with young Stretch today. Thought he wouldn't be able to run out the game, but was very handy in a number of roles. I'd given ANB the benefit of the doubt and give him another week or two to get used to the tempo. Would keep playing RIley too - adds a lot of toughness to our midfield and was probably a little stiff to be penalised on a few occasions for fair tackles.
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6 Jones - Almost every time we kicked a goal, it was through his excellent ball use
5 Toumpas - Beautiful outside midfielder game. Best game at the club.
4 Hogan - The first of many many many bags
3 Vince - Just keep running and creating opportunities
2 Cross - really want this man to stay on for another two years
1 Dunn - almost back to his best. Would have lost by a lot more if he wasn't on song.
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He was probably the best Dog on the field yesterday
One thing that impresses me about him is his contested marking ability. He doesn't look like the kind of player to hold those marks, yet he gets them every time. He's taken 8 this year (#55 in the league, #4 at Melbourne)
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I can't understand why Jamar isn't in the team. He's got his flaws around the ground, but he's one of the best ruckman in the league and he's a pretty good mark. At the very least, he makes us competitive in the centre square and gives our midfield a chance. I know we need to give Spencer a chance, but the only thing he has over Jamar is his tackling and his age. Jamar beats him in every other area (including the ability to play as an extra forward if needed)
Gawn still doesn't seem ready (will he ever be ready?), so we need to bring Jamar back and cut our losses with Spencer. Rotating Jamar and Pedersen in the centre square is the first step to us being competitive.
My recommendation would be to get the team back to our best 22 ASAP, rather than [censored]-farting around with the deckchairs. That means Jamar and Hogan are definite ins, and Jetta/Viney are in, if fit. It also means Stretch needs to go back to the VFL.
IN: Jamar, Hogan, Jetta (if fit), Viney (if fit)
OUT: Salem (inj), Spencer, Stretch, (M Jones or Bail out if Viney fit)
We know that Howe and Dawes can play when on song. Howe needs to play forward in Watts' absence. Dropping him (and Dawes) leaves us with more untried d-grader in the line-up.
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There's no excuses for some of the performances we've delivered this year, but it's worth noting that the teams we've lost to have been the best teams so far this year (and will probably all play finals). They are:
GWS (5th)
Adelaide (4th)
Fremantle (1st)
Sydney (3rd)
Hawthorn (6th)
Given that we've all now had a look at these teams, who do we think will go deep into September?
After the Freo game, I was convinced that they would win this year's flag. Their midfield was so strong, and Nathan Fyfe was an absolute beast. But after watching the Hawks yesterday, it's hard to see them not winning the flag again. They converted almost every turnover into a scoring opportunity, and found so much space in their forward line. Sure, we looked like a dumb footy team. But they looked like a very smart footy team.
The other highlight for me (if you can call it that) would be GWS and their pace. That 14-goal patch was about as one-sided as I've seen in years (and we've seen a lot of one-sided contests). They absolutely ran us off our legs, and were really bold in attack. Dylan Shiel will become a superstar, if he isn't one already.
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Also, Howe is a much better shot at goal than people give him credit.
He was pretty awful back in 2012 (19.25) but was pretty reliable in 2013 (28.16), his most recent season in attack.
I personally would love to see him back in the forward line, but I guess the coaches are hoping Watts will eventually become the reliable third tall option.
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"“One hundred per cent I want to be here,” Howe told the Sunday Herald Sun.
“That’s the situation my manager and that will work out, but my first priority is, of course, I want to stay.
“The way the article came out it does look a little bit sh--, but from my point of view it’s not."
This weekend just gets better and better
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6. Viney
5. McDonald
4. Cross
3. Watts
2. Jones
1. Garland
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Disagree with your assessment on Kent - he seemed to play pretty confidently. Would say Kent's last quarter was on par with Watts' third quarter. Was in almost all our forward thrusts near the end..
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6 Tyson - give that man a Brownlow
5 Jamar - gave our mids first use all day
4 N Jones - some really composed disposal when we needed it
3 Jetta - well and truly beat his man and gave us great rebound
2 Viney - never stopped working
1 Frawley - great marking. Could have been a great day had he kicked straight.
Special mention to Kent for that final quarter, Watts for that third quarter, and Bail for that phenomenal goal.
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Why are people saying that Gawn needs to learn how to take marks?!? He took 7 today, including 3 contested (most of any player on the ground)!
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Casey Demons v Collingwood VFL - Round 10
in Melbourne Demons
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Doesn't matter - he'll be too busy preparing for an AFL Grand Final.
As for the game, I tuned into the 2nd half and was really impressed by the slick ball movement of JKH and Tyson. JKH in particular was really classy in the 3rd quarter - lots of really quick releases handpasses to free players from contested sitatuions. He reminded me a lot of Oliver actually and if he keeps up this form he'd definitely be worth keeping on the list. Was also really impressed with some of the risky kicks he and Tyson managed to pull off, changing our angles going forward. Some of those won't work in the AFL, but it fits with Goody's game plan.
Such is the strength of our AFL midfield at the moment, it's hard to see him (and even Tyson) getting into the centre square or wing anytime soon in the seniors, but if anyone gets injured they are more than capable replacements, especially on today's form.
I also liked the look of Balic up forward - he's another of those medium-sized players that is hard to match up on because at times he played like a true full forward. His ground kicking needs a bit of work, but I think he's another player who could easily step into the seniors.
Petty looked great in defence and Keilty seemed to do some nice things as well. With Frost moving forward for the 2nd half, it looks like the match committee have these two (and Wagner) as the others in line for Lever's spot if Smith doesn't make the cut.
I also thought Hunt didn't do his chances any harm. Didn't get a huge amount of touches but he was hard at every contest and showed some good ability to break away from packs 2 or 3 times. I wouldn't think he's too far away.