Coldy21

I think i made you angry haha But seriously whats a troll and why am i a troll? Do you think im some supporter from another club trying to stir up [censored] or i just typed all that as some kind of joke? Did you read what i wrote? Im not disputing what he does on the field with his own game or saying he hasnt given his all for the club. Someone on here said if the other 21 players gave as much as he did then there wouldnt be a problem and thats my point. He drives himself to get the best out of himself but doesnt get anything out of the rest of HIS team that he is THE captain of. We were all expecting finals this year and we are now 14th with 2 wins after 5 rounds. I know! It must be because we have an incompetent coach who doesnt have a game plan. He just tells the players to kick it to someone else in the red and blue colours and try to kick between the big sticks. He literally hasnt even thought up a game plan at all. He must be sacked immediately and replaced with someone who we put all our faith in. Someone who knows that an afl team needs a game plan and knows how to develop one maybe? Then we can call for his head again next year when we realise he actually doesnt have a game plan like the last however many coaches weve had in the last 10 years. He was just pretending to know what he was doing. The players are lost. It doesnt matter what the game plan is or who the coach is. They fumble, they make mistakes and theyre scared. Its the same thing year after year, coach after coach, gameplan after gameplan (or no gameplan). Even with different players! They need a captain who keeps their heads in the right place, who guides and advises them, someone who they respect and listen to. They are not listening to Jones. He is not getting through to them. Whenever a coach is under the pump or gets sacked all you hear is that footy is a cut throat business, heads have to roll etc. Yeah well weve rolled enough coaches. Time to look at our captain. Maybe like that other teams supporters did recently with their captain. Who was it? Richmond with Cotchin? Do you think maybe the calls from the supporters for him to be dropped as captain might have driven him to improve as a captain? Not that theyre a successful club anyway. Not us though. Not melbourne supporters going against our saviour in Jones. We will just [censored] foot around, sack the coach and be cellar dwellers for eternity.

The blind defensiveness of Jones worries me and i hope that the people within the club are more honest with themselves than some of you guys. Im not sure what a troll is or where trollsville is but im a long time reader of this forum and supporter of the club so i dont see how many times ive posted here as being relevant to the discussion. I also dont know why so many of you are defending him based on his playing ability. His deficiencies as a captain have nothing to do with his playing ability. Yes of course a captain should be a good tough player who leads by example but a captain should more importantly be a good communicater who can get the most out of the players. Its obvious to me that Jones cant do that. That video of Hodge is exactly what id like to hear more of from our captain. He talks to the players in a respectful way that gets the point across and clearly gets the best out ot them. I hated Neeld but i think his ideas around the captaincy were well intentioned and not far off. His point was that Trengove and Grimes although very young and inexperienced were the best leaders at the club. Many on here were screaming for Jones to be captain but i doubt Jones himself felt shafted by the club for not being picked as captain. I could be wrong but did anyone see anything from him to suggest otherwise? Natural leaders show leadership potential from a young age. Jones is not a natural leader and he knows that. I think Trengove had the most potential to be a great captain but was obviously picked too young and didnt get the respect from the playing group. Hes the type who with experience, maturity and respect could get through to the players like Hodge does. I dont understand why in the afl in general that all the blame goes to the coach. Teams not going well, lets sack the coach. What about the captain? Hes the one on the ground. Hes the one whos supposed to be steering the ship but unfortunately for our team ours is wrapped in cotton wool and no one has the balls to admit we need to try someone else.

Im sorry to Jones for saying this because hes been a warrior for the club but i dont think hes the best captain. I remember watching a video of him a few years ago: He seems unnatural and just plain annoying to be honest. The way he tries to motivate the players i think is more suited to a boxing gym than a footy team. When youre training to fight a one on one battle its good to be screamed at and get angry but not when youre playing a team sport. I just feel the way he goes about it is creating disharmony in the team. Everyone keeps blaming coach after coach but maybe its not the coaches when we have the same problem through multiple coaches? We always drop off dramatically without Viney and obviously he adds to the team with his skills but i think its a lot more than that that he offers. I think its the way he motivates the players in a slightly different way to Jones thats the biggest difference. Obviously Jones is a great player but i dont think he should be captain. I think hes just a bit too tough and tries a bit too hard. Leadership isnt natural to him and despite the effort hes put into the captaincy hes still not natural which has a negative effect on the whole team.