kev martin

He was on light duties. The light duties players (Hibbo, McVee, Fritsch) were on the field for about 30 minutes

I get it. Honour the returned service people, remember the fallen from dusk to dawn, march and offer the silence. Anzac Day became less popular from the 1960s to the 1980s as fewer people thought war should be commemorated. I am part of this generation. My family feel the same way. Though instead of not honouring the military we discussed the horrors of war, the futility, the destruction and collapse of state. From this movement came the push to adjust narrative. But, we have this one sided pro-military stand and very little of what the broader community offer. The alternative views are now drowned out by comments similar to yours. If it doesn't match the institutional narrative then you get no voice, as the blind followers cannot see history or the other. Our world is making more division, as grey is no longer. Only black and white. Hey, Beelze have you made the pilgrimage to Turkey? If not I highly recommend it. Do you get it, narratives move, just as culture, in constant change. At the movement the institutions are powerful, with there PR to push us where they want. The individual has a hard time expressing the alternatives. Poor @DutchDemons had no chance. Me well, what was it, "That ....", well done, your voice wins. Anzac day stills remains for me, futility of war, a moment that was nation building and a deep sadness of the consequences of military actions. I remain greatly moved for those who don't return, for those who are physically and emotionally maimed, including the civilians and for those serving now, I am a bit bewildered by their motivations.

Spargo stayed firmly on the ground.

Has his own warm-up program and the drills didn't have contact or anything close to 70% effort. Loved that he is starting to run harder, is doing the resistance and change of direction work.

Good intensity, much more than the usual stretch it out runs. The drills were compact, with 4 stations, and then they all joined together for kick and run through before the goal kicking. Best thing was the joy. Lasted about 50 minutes No contact, nor anything close to sims.

Lovely movement and skills, full training.

Rehab: Chandler, left knee heavily bandaged, Verral, k.Turner. Light duties: Fritta, McVee, Hibbo. Salem out early being put through his paces, joined the main group for drills. 40 players in the main group, including Salem, J.Smith, plenty of noise, fun and some competitive warm-ups and drills. They finished up with organised goal kicking. Salem and Spargo still running after the squad left. Chandler finished his short session with a moderate speed, jog of the oval.

I agree, though after only watching at the G, I thought he was poor. I saw the replay and my opinion about his game changed. Thought he played well until about the middle of the third, and then became average. As a few have said, perhaps he is not quite right to fully run out the game.

Wasn't the surface of the MCG superb. At least a week off because of the gather round, and pristine. I remember the 70's. Patchy, muddy and hard on that cricket pitch. Great work MCC. Also no green wooden benches, or that standing area under the Ponsford Stand, behind the goals. Great memories with dad.

Yes, want to know how Oliver's shoulder pulled up. Hopefully I get there at the right time. Lately I've been doing my own exercises, sprints and stretching on the turf nearby, till they come out.

@WalkingCivilWar I forgot to tell you, great work with the banner. Absolutely beautiful shot on the broadcast when both teams ran through it. Thank you

They are training tomorrow on Gosch's, a captain's run Friday, probably 9.30 am and Saturday, after such a long wait for that last game, we are in it again. My guess would be 11.30 am after the reviews. Usually less than 1 hours kind of stretch, run and simple drills.

My upbringing, all parents and grandparents born in Australia. Before them, not much idea (LOL). No relative outside here and being older than 60, I remember how simple life was before the "spin". Family dying in Basra Iraq, WW1 Family serving as Z force WW2 Anzac was nation building, and a deep reflection on the futility of war.

Quote @rpfc "Keep your neuroses to yourself" That means to my interpretation, don't post stuff that you don't agree with. That is not " broad based" general advice, that is direct. You are telling me not to post, what your believe to be "neurotic". We had similar stuff when you told me to "sit down". You use words but don't comprehend the consequences and meaning of them, fobbing them off as a small slight or even playful.

The AFL are forcing him to go there

The modern narrative is to honour the fallen and as you say, "propaganda spectacle/barely disguised recruitment drive". I always felt the day was about the tragedy and horror of war, and that we should avoid them at all cost. Ask any returned soldier who engaged in active duty, very few would say "do it". Most say "what was it all about". Doesn't that war in Afghanistan or Iraq show, no good comes of it, except for causing a failed state, allowing war lords into the vacuum and the associated sanctions harming the common person. The reflection used to be about how war destroys communities and its citizens. The main deaths in war are those trapped in its environs. The armistice was a time we thanked the service people. I am amazed that it has become all about honouring the military and barely a mention of the futility and suffering. It is also the impetus that caused us to mature (Australia and New Zealand). We decided not to allow foreign (British Empire) nations to decide our Troop deployments. The making of an independent Australia. That is why we used to offer ceremony to that defeat in Canakkale (Gallipoli). It is amazing how the narrative gets moved by those with vested interests.

Do you mean the mark that Fritta took but was given to a Richmond player with 6.20 on the time clock, towards the end of the second quarter? It looked like JVR ran into Vlastuin as the pack was forming, hard decision as he had eyes for the ball and that Richmond player didn't, a feather could also have knocked him over fell over.

I don't want you jumping at me again. What did I do to you? In your own words from a while ago "sit down". To those who thumbed you, do you like that kind of "trolling"? @drysdale demon, @Jaded No More, @Hopeful Demon, @Dr. Gonzo, @Rod Grinter Riot Squad. I can understand protecting Kossie. I don't understand, the attempt to censor an opinion, and to use your bigotry about the mentally fragile, to denigrate me personally. The longer the season goes without him signing, the more likely it is, that he is on the move. He does selfish acts. Oops, I forgot you don't want me to comment.

Had a bit of a look at JVR's marking method, @demon3165 You were right, he kind of has his wrist turned back and opens his palm towards the ball. The balls energy seems to be absorbed by his elbow movement, which if he has freedom from opponents works well to bring the ball in. If he gets it a bit wrong, out it pops, off those palms. It doesn't pop out too far, as there is some cushioning. Would prefer his wrist to be part of the give. Also noticed that Brody has a similar technique (palms of the hand are turned forward).

Sell your soul

Much of the modern narrative is that way. I have been brought up to believe that it is a very sad and poignant celebration about and for the whole community.

Talked to a MFC volunteer last night. He tells me they are training on Gosch's paddock, Wednesday and Friday. He didn't give me a time. Possibly, Wednesday at 11.30 am (they have been recently coming out at this time after the morning review), and Friday captain's run at 9.30 am. No training out at Casey because of the quick turn around.

Good sentiment, though I see Anzac day as a time to reflect on the futility of war. I see remembrance day (11 Nov) as more of a time to thank those who served. Wish we didn't have to have a defence force, and when active, the displacement and suffering of civilians is very sad indictment of our madness. The pain of losing and maiming, (especially the psychological) a family member who served, is devastating. I think the soldiers know and ask, why? Especially when at that time, our foreign policy was controlled by another country. It is how that defeat became a nation definer to us and New Zealand. Lest we forget.

Loved our fight and our second half. Although our contested possessions and tackling was less than the Tiges, we were able to stop their ball movement. In the first half they got the ball out the back of the pack and had time to find links, spread and corridors. We seemed to adjust and got our half forward game going, holding it in, getting multiple entries, and halved their attempts to counter-attack. The Tiges left the game and lowered their heads after missing goals. The old Tiges are done, could be the last time we see the magnificent Martin. Riewold, Cotchin and Grimes are also lowering the colours. Great that JVR could do it in the last, and what a stage to execute. I think he was led by Petty, who started marking in the high forward area in the last quarter. JVR, then said, watch this. Kossie looks to be playing for himself. Has he moved interstate already? The ball user would often take that extra step, invite the pressure and lose our synch/connection, but we kept pushing and scrambled well. May's struggling, haven't seen him lose the feet so regularly, or not finding his balance after wrestling for position and not taking those marks. Our defence continues to structure very well, with their communication, pointing and setting the field. Don't like that we play straight, very little change of angles as we go forward, and those bombs, which looked like a game plan. Need to increase our tackling, contested footy and one-percenters. Too many turnovers. We still have a great transitional game, and some players read the game so well (Lever, Hibbo, Hunter, Oliver). We also seemed to nullify their players when they started getting dominant. Good role players, ANB, Sparrow, Rivers, McVee, Brayshaw. Not sure about using inexperienced players as the Sub. Laurie had trouble getting into the game. Much prefer an old head. Happy about our win and ability to take and hold the momentum after half-time.

I thought Deever meant, without him will there be much difference.