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53 minutes ago, Witches Hat said:

Brisbane finished 4th so the only way they get to host the GF is if Sydney or Geelong get through. That is extremely unlikely.

I think the gf is hosted by the highest finishing home side in the prelims. Or if both gf teams were away sides in the prelim, the highest finishing away side.

So if its bris v north, north would host.

If its bris v adel, bris would host.

If melb v adel, adel host.

If melb v north, north host.

...just realised I'm getting ahead of myself and assuming adel and melb win next week

5 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

if Adelaide make the GF do they still get home ground advantage against us should we win our next two?

If we beat North and Adelaide win next week, we'll meet in the prelim. Dees home game. The only way we can face Adelaide in the gf is if we lose to north, adelaide and us both win in week 2 of the finals and then we both win away prelims, us vs bris, adel vs north. Adel would then have a home gf against us....seems pretty remote

Not the only factor, but we got smashed in the ruck until the last qrt which created a lot of their dominance. Pearce really struggled against a more athletic high jumping ruck. Pearce is a fantastic ruck but didn't match up well tonight. Our dominance in the 2nd came when Zanker was rucking. It was a shame to lose Rhi Watt, but dropping Cambell for Watt was a stupid selection in my opinion. No shade on Watt, but she is low on match experience and Cambell has been terrific this season.

7 hours ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

Tayla is not that kind of person, she's a beast on the footy ground as she is in the boxing ring, but she's got a hell of a lot of restraint.  She's certainly not in the Barry Hall category, put it that way.  If you ever get a chance to meet Tay, you'll see she's in reality a quiet, reserved person, and just loves people. 

It's probably a little odd for a 40yo to have a 'favourite' player. But Tayla is my favourite. The handful of conversations she's had with my kids and I over the boundary line have shown her to be a terrific person. Loves her team mates. Excited about footy. Genuinely Appreciates the fans. Very giving of her time. 

2 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Understand,,,, but the issue is are clubs selling expensive GF guarantee memberships that only entitle a holder to standing room.

Is it just Collingwood or are other clubs doing it?

MFC have never had a GF where the guarantee applies for example

Exactly, and as someone who hopes to use his Grand Final Guarantee in the next year or 2, it's a big concern. I would hope that MFC have sold no more than the seats they would be allocated,not including standing room

It seems the ticketing debacle is the fault of the CFC. It's being reported that cat 1 members with a gfg were guaranteed a ticket. But that ticket could be any category, including standing room. Some of those members were allocated standing room but had opted out of this option by ticking a box. Therefore they lost their ticket.

According to Ticketek this is because CFC instructed them to prioritise all members equally. Meaning GFG members were guaranteed a ticket, but not one of a paticilar level. This is also why some cat 3 members got great seats while some cat 1 got nose bleeds. 

In contrast Brisbane instructed ticketek to offer level 1-4 seats to their cat 1 members,4-5 for their cat 2 members and anything left for their cat 3 members

What is uncleat is how many GFGs CFC have sold.

1 minute ago, Superunknown said:

No worries Gleeson! It’s open season on the head fellas!!! Have at it! Maynard yours is next bro! 
 

If he gets off, and the AFL doesn’t appeal (with a half decent lawyer), I am done with the sport including membership. Done. 
 

It’s soccer tennis and golf for my kids

Exactly how I a feeling. My sipport for MFC is unwavering, but I'm not sure I can continue taking my family to AFL if the leaguecondones this. I already buya Melb United 3 game membership in the NBL. Maybe I'll extend that

15 minutes ago, RyanD said:

It was mentioned on the telecast. 

Let's not forget, 31 is young in the 'real world'. The 2 previous reconstructions were on the opposite knee. No-op management is a completely normal rehab option. Reduced time, reduced cost, non-invasive, no infection risk, etc etc. Each case is different, so you would have to see the scans. At an elite level, it's less common, obviously. 

Is there a higher chance of rerupture with non operative?

10 minutes ago, BDA said:

Ah. I thought the rule was 3 years. Thanks for clarifying.

Bumped into Alyssa working at my local Rebel a few months back. It was great to see her, but I remember feeling how wrong it was that such a star isn't earning a living wage playing footy. The payment system in place would make it very enticing for a quality tier 2 or 3 player to move if they could get a tier 1 spot

On 12/6/2022 at 12:34 PM, Katrina Dee Fan said:

The players are so approachable.  I can't imagine the type of interactions with the men that we've been able to enjoy with the women.  It's not some exclusive club, it's a matter of going to the games and supporting them.  They love it just as much as we do.  It's the girls who make the decision to turn up to things like banner making, even non playing players helping out on match days holding the banner up, etc.  

This is so true....I haven't shown anywhere near the dedication and support to our women as you and others. I attended a couple of matches in season 1 and then put Casey Fields in the too hard basket. This year I was drawn back in and attended the last 4 home games and the 2 finals in Melbourne.

I came back for a few reasons. I wanted to show my kids that there was no difference in the amount of effort I'd go to to attend afl vs aflw (of course they come too, as well as my Dad and wife). I also couldn't resist the way they were playing. I had to see that excitement in person.

I've been surprised by how friendly and grateful for the support our AFLW players are. As outlined above I wouldn't be a recognisable face for them. Yet have found players keen to have a yarn after matches on the fence. Often they refuse to leave the ground despite minders trying to move them on. Hanks seems particularly notorious for this.

The pre gf training was the best. My daughtet and I had long chats with several nervous and excited players. 

A little effort as a supporter and I quickly felt very connected to this teams journey.

Our women are absolute stars!

2 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Lights??? It’s lucky to have goalposts and interchange benches let alone lights. It was supposed to be declared open and ready for use in mid December. That’s still three weeks away, so maybe even having toilets etc. can be considered a luxury. 

Yeah. While I have an in principle support for the top teams right to pick a home ground. It shouldn't be at the expense of the fans and of the fairness and integrity of the game. 

To my mind the fan lockout and the likely heat mean both have been compromised.

Given we were separated on the ladder by 1 point in a year when the draw had no integrity, a gf at a neutral venue like Docklands would have made sense, when the 2 big qld venues were unavailable.

2 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

You’re entitled to rant, Docs D. This is a totally rant-worthy issue.

This is how ridiculous it is: there’s cheer squad members who’ve missed out on tickets despite having AFLW and Demon Army membership along with their MFC membership. These are people who are totally invested in the AFLW and haven’t missed a match to date.  The Club is currently trying to sort something out for them. But this shouldn’t be an issue, and wouldn’t be an issue had an appropriate venue been selected. 

That's discraceful treatment of fans.....many Brisbane fans have missed out as well by the sounds of it.  

Like many I am shocked the game is being played in the heat of the day. I'm assuming this is because the ground doesn't have lights?

Does anyone know where and when the women are training this week? I'd love to take the kids along if they are open sessions

1 hour ago, Return to Glory said:

Doesn't appear to be a thread for  Bris v Richmond. Loved the girls performance yesterday. I'm watching today's match and it's frustrating/ doing my head in that so many instances of incorrect disposal or caught in possession just get waived away. 

This is a constant week in, week out. The umps allow way too much leway re incorrect disposal. It penalises teams that are more skillful and want to take the game on, and benefits teams that just want to bash and crash.

It's time they start umpiring to the standard of the better players, rather than the new recruits from other sports.

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

NO Seriously?? Flawed if so!

False negatives are incredibly common over the first 3-4 days of infection. After this time the viral load builds up and the test becomes more reliable. 

As much as I'd love to watch it, I'm pretty sure they won't want Geelong watching a live feed of the scratch match. 

3 minutes ago, rjay said:

....by the way, how in the f... was he let back into the country in the first place.

The borders were closed I thought.

He's not in an essential industry.

Is he an Australian citizen or did the bombers pull in a favour.

FFS...

 

Lot's of journalist have thrown around the term closed borders, but international flights have never stopped. People returning from overseas need to do 2 weeks of hotel quarantine.

11 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Oh wake up!!!!!!!!!

The entire competition will be on its knees financially by the end of the season and you want to bleat about a comp that COSTS money because "sexism"?

Pull you head out of your dot.

take it easy with the abuse champ!

You speak of the end of the season like a distant event...I'm not sure you're right, but if the men get a season in then I can't see why 3 games (with minimal costs) will make any difference, financially. Many would challenge your assertion that AFLW costs money. It has led to a large up swell of grassroots players, strengthening footy all over Aus.

You have an interesting perspective re finances. the biggest drain on the AFL's coffers in 2020 will be paying players and staffers in the AFL whose clubs are not playing. If the AFL goes under financially it will be because of the highly professionalised environment of the men's game.

I think it's a little crude to criticise me for a lack of perspective. like me, you are on a football forum discussing the implications of a global pandemic on football. I'd say we are both a tad light on perspective.

Finally sexism does not cease to exist or become less problematic just because the AFL is in financial trouble.

The AFL is a sexist disgrace. Gil has said he is committed to playing the remaining 16 rounds plus finals of AFL at some stage this year, yet AFLW is cancelled with 3 games remaining. I know this is probably irrelevant given it is unlikely either formats will recommence in 2020, but on principle it is poor. It is time to stop treating AFLW as a level of equality the AFL has gifted to women. 

At some stage a player will contract the virus and the season will be halted. The best chance of getting a legitimate season in, is if they start before this happens and hope they have enough time to squeeze in the remaining games if the season can be restarted. 

Like others have pointed out, These guys are already gathering together for training. I don't see that playing matches in empty stadiums increases the risk of disease transmission.

19 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Dieter, your odious intimidation efforts are not helping anyone.  I've put forward a pretty straightforward set of copiously verified facts with clear cause and effect relationships.

- that the dismal animal welfare and workplace safety cultures and laws of many countries, but most particularly the globally integrated ones headlined by China, is a major factor in this, previous, and likely future novel contagions.

- that the cover-up first response culture of many authoritarian countries, but most particularly the globally integrated ones headlined by China, is a major factor in virus' being enabled to spread beyond an initial outbreak.

 

Failure to deal with the reality of the situation actually provides racists with a cloak to cover their vileness - based on your response any given racist can now say 'Look, the PC police won't even let us talk about the failings of a repressive totalitarian state.'

I speak from a position of resentment on this because I have watched as this knee-jerk 'it's racist' reaction has provided a similar cloak to awful reactionaries across the world who have successfully branded things like human rights, free press, women's liberation, and so on as 'western/white conspiracies' sent to undermine the 'unity' of the 'natural order'.  From Turkey to Indonesia to Sri Lanka, there's hardly a repressive government that hasn't claimed that, say, Amnesty International is actually just a front for white cultural imperialism.

Dieter, your thoughtless aggression harms people I care about.  Please take some time to reflect on the conspiracy theorist tones of your post I have quoted and whether that is really how you want to relate to the world.

 

I agree in full. To suggest it is racist to point out the obvious and well documented failings of an authoritarian international government is non sensical. 

As LG points out, by muddying the waters this actually emboldens true racists to say whatever they want and pay out on what they see as left wing pinkos when they are criticized.

As others have pointed out the game goes for half as long as a men's match so scores will naturally be lower. Games are also much more exposed to the wheather which  impacts scoring. The last touch rule also results in more half ground turnovers.

Add to that shorter, less precise kicks and you get a lower scoring match, that is nevertheless fantastic contested footy that I really enjoy watching.

Also worth noting that the scoring and standard has increased dramatically from the first round to the end of season in previous seasons.

1 hour ago, Good Lord George said:

It's not really something you can see but I'd think she was pivotal to our setting up behind the ball, especially in the 4th. Assuming that is as big a consideration to her playing there as providing drive off half back.

Quite possibly. But in quarter 2 and 4 the backline was pretty irrelevant as tends to be the way at Casey

Loved the win. Could have been a bigger win if not for the 50s and advantage that wasn't allowed.

 though Pearce was good in the 1st quarter but was wasted behind the ball after that. Especially in the 2nd and 4th when we had the wind.

Interesting post. I reckon the team is fairly settled if everyone is fit. 

Core

FB                         lever                                     May                       jetta

Chb                       Salem                                  Hore                      Hibberd

Centre                  Tomlinson                           Oliver                    Langdon

HF                         Melksham                                                         Petracca

Ff                          fritsch                                   TMac                   Vanders

Fow                      Gawn                                    Viney                    Brayshaw

Int                        Harmes                                 Jones                  

It's missing

- 1 tall forward  (Wied, Preuss, Brown, Petty).

- 1 small/mid size forward (Hannan, Hunt, ANB, Spargo, Lockart, Smith).

- 1 defender tall or medium depending on opposition (OMac, Petty, Brown, Wagner, Smith)     

I reckon Jetta, Jones and Hibberd are still core. Whilst they may be slowing down, I can't see who would be pushing them out of the side.