dee-luded

like faulkner. he's a part of our future.

I think hope this is a good sign.

it'll get smarter & better when the board remove their numbnuts from decision making processes. and get back to reality, instead of some pie in the sky dream of a super human race. they're cricket players & lads ACB, wake up! they 'the cricket board', seem very like what happened to Melbournefc since around the time of the Norm Smith sacking. that all pervading, they know better than everyone attitude, that goes with narcissistic types.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/ricky-ponting-goes-on-the-front-foot-at-ca-claiming-miserliness-caught-up-with-australia/story-e6frf3g3-1226745534932 Ricky Ponting goes on the front foot at CA, claiming miserliness caught up with Australia Ricky Ponting one-on-one Cricket News October 24, 2013 7:43 RICKY Ponting has intensified the pressure on Cricket Australia, claiming he was angry when attempts to try and keep the team No. 1 were often ignored. "It made me angry at the time,” Ponting said after the launch of his candid autobiography “At the Close of Play” by former Prime Minister John Howard in Sydney yesterday. “I think some of the stuff we’re seeing now might have been half avoidable and I’m pretty sure Buck (former coach John Buchanan) would be saying the same thing about where we find Australian cricket now. “Maybe if some ears had been opened at an earlier time … it wouldn’t have got to the point where we even needed an Argus review. “We might have had things in place better than what we had right now.” The former captain’s revelations came as sacked coached Mickey Arthur claimed chief executive James Sutherland, high performance manager Pat Howard and captain Michael Clarke would be under pressure if Australia lost a fourth successive Ashes series. "There are some serious players in Cricket Australia under a lot of pressure around this Test series," Arthur told Fairfax Radio. "If they lose this Test series there is going to be a lot of questions asked. “I think James Sutherland, I think Pat Howard, I think Michael Clarke . . . I think some serious heads could roll if Australia don't win this Test series." Ponting simply said that everyone is defined by results. ....... In his book Ponting admits to being stunned when told by Sutherland: "no one ever spends money when they are going well.” This was after Ponting and Buchanan had spent years making quarterly reports to the board. “Whenever we had things that we thought would improve the team we took them straight to the board,” Ponting said yesterday. “History suggests they listed to some of those things, they made some changes around the team, but once again I think there could have been more done back then. “If you look at the cold hard facts of it, we employed a bowling coach in 2006 after the 2005 Ashes loss and we didn’t have a batting coach until 2010, when we lost the 2009 Ashes. “I don’t know why. I can’t work that out. Why on earth would you have a specialist bowling coach but not batting coach when you’ve only got four bowlers and seven batters. “Everyone is trying hard. Everyone wants success for the Australian team but it’s not going to be a quick fix, it’s not going to be an overnight thing, which is why the real foresight had to be there a long time ago. “When we were on top of the world we had to be looking at how we were going to get further and further and further away, not just expect that we would stay number one.” Read more: http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/ricky-ponting-goes-on-the-front-foot-at-ca-claiming-miserliness-caught-up-with-australia/story-e6frf3g3-1226745534932#ixzz2igi7A2Uc

hahaha, I thought the same, thats why i put a bit of separation of it from the main body. but his point remains, team work & harmony. Australian cricket has gone way off the rails over the last few years, & the cricket became boring, at least to me in that time frame. something I just didn't relate to, & IMO that also related to RP captain but also must have been behind scenes stuff as well. I never took to punter when captain but loved him as a player. wrong captain choice I think. then Clark???? god help me.

well, Boof will do it. ------------------------ Read more: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/other-sports/darren-lehman-is-the-most-powerful-coach-australia-has-had-since-bob-simpson/story-e6frf56c-1226743429458#ixzz2iJckcsi8 Darren Lehman is the most powerful coach Australia has had since Bob Simpson imo - the horse whisperer Darren Lehmann has a mandate for change as Australia coach. Source: AP DARREN Lehmann is the most powerful cricket coach Australia has had in two decades. Often the true powerbrokers in sporting teams are not the headline makers, but the ones who use their clout silently, selectively and subtly behind the scenes, amid the occasional public tub-thump. There have been traces of all of these in Lehmann's one-series reign as Australian coach since dramatically taking over from the sacked Mickey Arthur just before the first Ashes Test in England. Lehmann will have more say in what happens around him than any Australian coach since iron-willed Bob Simpson remoulded Australia's cricket culture between 1986-1996. Simpson was the first man to hold the position of national coach after a period when Australia went 14 Tests without a win. The comparison is significant because, like Lehmann, Simpson's power was rooted in the fact that the SS Australia had water flooding through every porthole when he took the job. Like Lehmann, Australia needed Simpson more than Simpson needed Australia. There was no one else in the country at the time suited to the job anywhere near as much as these two. Australia captain Michael Clarke speaks with coach Darren Lehmann. Source: AP Few things solidify a man's power base than being the only serious alternative. The other four coaches used between these two eras (Geoff Marsh, John Buchanan, Tim Nielsen and Mickey Arthur) came into the job when Australia's stocks were either soaring or at least better than they are now. When handed the job it was almost as if they should have been privileged to accept it. There was an unspoken assumption that they could feel free to do some deft interior decorating but don't worry about a major renovation because we are - well, Australia - and we go pretty well. But the game's changed. With Australia having lost three Ashes series in a row Lehmann has a powerful mandate for change after accepting the job with a few hours' notice in England. It is not a bad thing Lehmann has substantial influence because of an obvious yet underrated fact, he knows what makes a cricketer. Like a lot of sports, cricket is finding its way in the hazy, confusing world of sports science and the jury is very much out on the merits of the guidance modern fast bowlers get from sports scientists who might be experts on body movement, but who may also think a new cherry is something you buy at a fruit shop. The fact that Mitchell Starc, Jackson Bird, James Pattinson and the rarely sighted Pat Cummins are all broken down with lower back injuries must raise questions as to whether they could be managed better. It is Lehmann's job to cut through some of the newfangled theories and apply old-fashioned commonsense. You don't put coaches like Simpson and Lehmann into a system and say, “Now would you please not rock the boat.'' You either go with them and their philosophies or don't hire them. Lehmann won't get everything he wants, but he should not be disappointed too often. Already his fingerprints have been seen on several key decisions. On the very day Lehmann was appointed, Michael Clarke stood down as an Australian selector. It was rumoured but never confirmed that Lehmann wanted this to happen. Certainly he later fully endorsed the move. A couple of days into the job, he announced Shane Watson would open the batting in the Ashes and he effectively put the kibosh on the controversial rotation policy by saying of the best fast men where fit they would play. Just last week Craig McDermott returned as Australia's fast bowling coach, a Lehmann-endorsed move no one could have predicted when McDermott left the same position for personal reasons not long ago. Like Lehmann, McDermott can talk to his players with a qualified firmness about the demands of the job because he has done it himself at the highest level. The power of the Australian coach has ebbed and flowed during the past 37 generally bountiful years. It was never stronger than when Simpson was in charge, but it waned under the likes of Nielsen to the point that the Argus review recommended the coach be made a selector to increase the respect they got from the players. Lehmann's challenge will be to cut to the chase in a team which is not short of varied opinions. Australia's entourage in England was so big that there were almost as many support staff members as players. Australia are desperately short of future leadership options and one theory is that teams are so well looked after that players simply follow their daily matrix and never learn to think outside the square. Recently I went to an Andre Rieu concert where at one point he had around 30 people on stage with him, about the same number as the Australian ensemble in England. As always, Rieu and his band members played in perfect symphony, that is now Australia's challenge. Robert Craddock Read more: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/other-sports/darren-lehman-is-the-most-powerful-coach-australia-has-had-since-bob-simpson/story-e6frf56c-1226743429458#ixzz2iJckcsi8

http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/shane-watson-sits-down-and-discusses-his-struggles-and-darren-lehmanns-impact/story-fndpt0dy-1226743136692 Shane Watson sits down and discusses his struggles and Darren Lehmann's impact Shane Watson says Darren Lehman made an immediate impact on the team. Source: AFP A candid Shane Watson opens up to Jessica Halloran about life under new coach Darren Lehmann, a fractured Australian cricket team, tension with skipper Michael Clarke, and self-doubt. As for Watson and Clarke’s much scrutinised relationship, he laughs off speculation their shared smiles in the slips and on the balcony during the last Ashes series was "stage managed". Clarke and Watson have swiftly moved on from Mickey Arthur’s revelation that the Australian captain once referred to him and his faction in the side as “a cancer” on the team. The 32 year old explains why they have great working relationship but firstly how that final Ashes innings squashed a mountain of self-doubt ... JH: What did that 176 innings in the final Ashes test in England mean to you, what does it tell you about where your Test cricket is at? SW: I hadn’t scored any big runs in Test cricket throughout my whole career, and I hadn’t scored a 100 in quite a few years, so deep down I was doubting whether I had the game to be able to perform and bat especially for really long periods of time. Through the Ashes I was going through some technical issues, I was fortunate to have a lot of good people helping me out, and like anything when you work hard on something it’s really nice to see the rewards. To bring it together and bat for a long period of time, it was something I really had been dreaming of in Test cricket, it’s really nice looking back now, knowing I can do it. That I have got it in me, hopefully there is a little bit more to come in the next Ashes series. JH: What’s it like to deal with that nagging self-doubt in the middle of a series? SW: Life’s never meant to be easy and I was very lucky to have my wife Lee and son Will there during that time so they really took my mind off it at times. But it was engulfing the majority of my day … it felt like even when I was sleeping. I was just thinking about; “How am I going to get better? How am I going to find a way to achieve things that I feel that I have got in me but I haven’t been able to show?… it’” It’s mentally draining. In the end I learnt my lesson the hard way, especially in Test cricket, because I kept on making mistakes. But to see Will at the end of the day and see how he was developing, to me that was amazing. I couldn’t imagine how I would have got through it if I didn’t have Will and Lee there to take my mind off things. I love cricket but there are more important things life, like having a healthy family and little boy and being the best father I can be. JH: Speaking to Lee you had no qualms in getting up in the middle night to help her settle Will? SW: During the Test match Will was in our room and it didn’t worry me at all if I was getting woken up. The majority of the time I was still getting a good sleep. Lee is an amazing mum and she was doing a brilliant job as well. I am there to help out and it’s more important than a cricket game. JH: Heading into the next Ashes series, where do you feel you are at? SW: I feel like I am only getting better. I have made a lot of mistakes in Test cricket with my batting; I feel like I have really got through that period of time and now is really the time to capitalise on all the experience that I have had. I hope I can contribute more with the ball in this Ashes series if my body continues to stay together. With my batting, I feel like we are much more settled in the batting order, the balance we had in the last Test match we had some stability in the batting order. To know no matter how things are going, there is always a way to work through it and come out the other end. Shane Watson has maintained his one-day form throughout his Test struggles. Source: AFP JH: Can you talk about the LBW problem you had and how you started to conquer it? SW: I had to go through a few changes. I had to, I had no choice, it couldn’t really get any worse. I could get to the start of an innings, I would get to 20 and they would find a way to bowl that ball and get me out. I couldn’t keep doing that over and over again. I have been very lucky to have a lot of people around me, who would send me an email, call me up, and all the information I was getting had a common thread. From the fourth Test I was able to make the changes. More than anything it was something as simple as just getting my weight right, so my bat was out in front of my pad a bit more, so if the ball seamed, which were the balls were predominantly getting me out, I was able to get my bat on it a bit more. It was as simple as getting my head over my front leg. Sometimes I was getting a bit stuck and they’d bowl that ball and get me out. I am well on my way now to resolving it. JH: What are your thoughts on the DRS? Do you like it? SW: No. (Watson laughs) I have realised I am a shocking umpire ... I have really learnt the umpires are the experts and that I have no idea. I am happy to admit I am useless at it. Umpiring is not for me when I finish. I’d like to go into coaching. JH: Throughout Ricky Ponting’s new book At The Close Of Play, his attitude toward discipline is starkly at odds with the recent less forgiving approach – in an interview last week he said; “The environment was all about looking after each other, protecting each other, not hanging them out to dry which I think has been happening.” Has it changed under Darren Lehmann? SW: It has changed under Darren. There is no doubt about that. There were times in the previous two years that weren’t ideal. The way things were going was definitely in the wrong direction. The day that Darren came in things changed significantly and only for the better. It is now at the stage where everyone is really enjoying themselves again. When Darren first came in, the first meeting we had, he said: “This should be the time of your life.” That it was a privilege to be able to play for your country, and when I first started playing and training for Australia that’s how it was, but we had gone away from it. JH: What exactly did he bring back to create a happier team environment? SW: Experience about what it is to play for Australia – it is that simple. He knew what environment you needed to get the best out of the Australian team. He knows the Australian way of playing cricket and living that day to day. That’s what he brought in. I was lucky enough to play with Darren when he first came into the team and that’s the way he played. He was a genius of a player himself. Off the field everyone really enjoyed themselves and it meant guys were a lot closer. Everyone was enjoying each other’s success. It is a really exciting time, for not just me who has been through what it was originally, then been through that other period, now it is back to a really exciting time.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/cricket/hussey-reveals-tension-among-test-team-20131002-2uswg.html Hussey reveals 'tension' among Test team The consequences of Mike Hussey's shock retirement cannot be underestimated. Photo: Reuters Retired Test batsman Mike Hussey has traced his waning enjoyment of the Australian dressing room to last year's tour of the West Indies, when he observed the first cracks in the team culture and raised his concerns with then coach Mickey Arthur. In his new book, Underneath the Southern Cross, Hussey also describes his dismay at decisions made by Cricket Australia in the aftermath of the Argus review. He felt making captain Michael Clarke a selector, a position Clarke has since relinquished, ''drove a wedge between the players and their leader, and it wasn't fair to either side''. The consequences of Hussey's shock retirement last summer cannot be understated. Australia suffered heavy Test series losses without him in India and England and the extent of the cultural crisis was revealed with the ''homework'' fiasco, before Arthur's sacking on the cusp of the Ashes. Hussey reveals ''warning signs about the team environment'' emerged after Australia's 2011-12 Test series win over India. The first was when Arthur, after Australia won the first one-dayer in Melbourne, told the players they would be ''rewarded'' with an unchanged team for the next match. ''What we needed from our coach was a degree of backing and help with our games, not a veiled threat that if we didn't keep playing outstanding games, our heads were on the block,'' Hussey wrote. During the subsequent West Indies tour, he arranged a meeting with Arthur to discuss his concerns about an ''insular'' culture. ''My view was always that in cricket you have to be genuinely happy for your teammates' success,'' Hussey wrote. ''If it wasn't happening, was it a team culture, or just a few players? I was a bit nervous about that, and organised a meeting with Mickey. ''I sat down with him and got all my concerns out in the open. 'We need to foster a culture that makes them want to think about other people and play for the team,' I said. 'Get them out of insular thinking, about No.1 only.' ''In our chat, I don't think anything I said went in. Mickey definitely listened but he was in tunnel-vision mode too. He had specific things he wanted to focus on, and anything from left-field didn't register. It was understandable how Mickey had his specific plans, and Michael too. But for me it was a big early warning sign that this team had problems ahead of it. ''We were fostering an environment where guys only cared about their own positions and didn't think about the team.'' Hussey said the dressing room ''became just as stressful and tense as out in the middle. It should be a sanctuary, where you can let go and have a joke with your teammates. Our dressing room wasn't relaxed or calm or conducive to good play. I didn't enjoy that tension.'' Elsewhere, Hussey expresses frustration that CA ''went in the other direction from pretty much everything I had suggested'' during his interview for the Argus review. Among his concerns was the aggressive promotion of youth in domestic cricket. Mike Hussey farewells the fans after his final Test at the SCG in January. Photo: Reuters Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/hussey-reveals-tension-among-test-team-20131002-2uswg.html#ixzz2ge52MVJj

nice points.. my theme isn't about getting us wins. its about building a real connection to a home base first & foremost,,,, the connection to a place thats ours where we can all go at will. from this a connection establishes & respects & connections between people grow, even if once a week on regular basis. people and players can then get to recognise & to know one another @ training, & from that respectful connections & meaningful connections develop. this IMO underpins what the Clubs stand for. from there, member numbers can grow from the available contact, & the feeling of respect from can grow emotional connections. care. these are the things which drive a really strong culture & the passion to play for the jumper.... our jumper lacks those contacts & connections & so that extra passion. we are a bit disconnected as a club. its not wins that keep players from other teams from joining us, its the hollow feeling perceived of us & the jumper... it stands for nothing. we can get media stuff going but that is spin. its the love generated within a club & its real connections, that becomes the magnetism that binds it, & then leaves others in admiration of what the club is & stands for. ............................................................................ Out of all the love & all these connections, numbers grow, & then as a result finances improve & the health of the club to stand alone becomes a reality. This is the grassroots of a club where new growth springs eternal. From all this ^ Finances allow the footy part of this to get the skills & development required to maintain healthy growth. & the talent from other places wishing to jump on board.

I disagree OD as when we start to win games & numbers pickup it will get put on the backburner & forgotten, as we'll be getting our temporary numbers again, until the next fall. the next fall maybe the last.

I agree, it has become different since the 50's.... the club my grandad was so proud of, & wanted me to be a part of. he was no elitist, a friendly man, a businessman, a great sportsman. he loved the MFC & the MCC, & cricket. a very good player, apparently. my recollection/perception, is back then the club worked hard on not being big headed, & on being 'inclusive'. Smithy wore a plain old coat proudly. a very "ordinary man" in an extraordinary career? the attitude of pedigree I think is a New one of the past 45 years. In conjunction with advent of the credit cycle & the changing western world. professional sportspeople, etc.. yet we haven't kept up with those clubs who adjusted quicker & grew themselves, because they did not adopt a closed shop way of living. .... those clubs grew buy expanding, being open to people who then got onboard & helped support further growth, to the detriment of others who shrunk because of their attitudes. It sounds to me like you follow the "I like it small & compact & exclusive". just because it helps some insecure people feel more important than others.... even if we continually lose & struggle to survive because we lack the resources of other bigger Clubs. ....................... & yet you say "winning games is",,,, but we lack the financial resources that come from large numbers of people feeling involved & connected with the Club. how many decades does it take for some to be able to see trees in the forest, before they realise we need to open the doors & let the people in? lets stop this pointing of fingers at the masses outside the tower, they want to help not hinder.

this is why its so important to build it at our training ground in Richmond, across from the station. i myself am not far from a Tea-Totaler. I don't drink at home unless entertaining. so now not much drinking as I don't know many out here. sometimes go o the towns club to watch a game, last against the dogs I had 4 pots. spilling the bloody things, bumping the stupid table with my knees. I want the club to grow its base, & I want the club to become open, a Club like it was back in the time of our greatness in the 50/60's... where there was a different attitude amongst people then, a more inclusive, yet us against them world. Us against the pies, us against the Bombers, us against the rest. We've lost our 'Us', and we've followed the world affluent trend of exclusiveness, to the detriment of our supporter numbers. we will not survive without growing our numbers.. our base numbers, the ones which will remain strong & loyal even when down. the club g=has to rebuild its passion base & collective Us cultural attitude, where we are One. ... did you see the effect that Freo has, from its supporter base & the Passion & noise they generated, & the Lift it gave their players?... & the intimidation it generated on the opposition! & on the media people. they put everyone in the shade. when others like the Suns & the Giants start to climb their everest, we will fall further back. we either shrink like violets (fuschias), or we stop this backs to the wall & front up, & come out fighting...

I'm buying one anyway because Roosy has signed on, so the AFL & the club is showing they truly want to change to become a winning club & an club chasing premierships once again. .... even if I'm moving further away, I may still make the trek, depending on how isolated the area I buy in is. as of now when I train it I try to get to Swan street & go to a cafe for lunch before the game. it would be so much better if the club had a Training/Office/SocialHub/Cafe, where we could all meet our mates, or new ones Pre Game, get our food & drinks to take to the 'G'... & then again after a Win! go back to sing the song, have an Ale or softy, & generally soak up the atmosphere we could create.... a Club.

do you not realise we have a very limited domographic, of same ideals. there are many out there who will come & broaden our support base demographics. no one will steal the MCC options from you. or the contacts you have there. this is about giving others some of the contact they would like. those who aren't into the fineries of the north. they're are manay who are dropping off footy for the closeness of NRL & the Storm etc. we must tap into the areas we've neglected over the past 48 odd years, & the supporter types who have given up on the Red & the Blue over that time... not to mention those who could have joined & went to other more Open clubs like the Hawks. one of my best Demon mates went to them. the walls only seperate Us.

no, this is the bigger issue for us. even if you WYL, have a distaste for it access would be easy as well WYL. & for most supporters, all would be very welcome. we have tinsy numbers for a reason. because we have continually sat on our hands, & missed the bus.

that does not mean its the right way to go. they became powerful via the other ways of growing supporter numbers & passion. just as did the other power clubs. they turn their backs on that at their perils. just as we now know. this ^, as you've stated above, is our chance to get a jump on them, to catch them as they F*#kUp. doing nothing, is to do the same. fail.

private training at casey. as much as helicoptors allow any privacy.

Also with the recovery facilities at the AAMI centre, the players wil often come straight across from the 'G' to go to the medical facilities, ice baths, etc. It makes a lot of sense to me to have an open after match there, for anyone who wants to enjoy some of the 'cheer' for a couple of hours, say til 2 hours after the end of game. also pre game meet ups over coffee & snacks, lunch on home game days, merchandise, putting money into our club.... training days, & Thursday nights team announcements. .... not to mention other functions, etc.

yes but we need to grow! when the pies took over the glass house they weren't all that far off major financial problems. its attitude. We currently have the ground on swan st right across the egress to the station. there is an entrance there 100 metres away that could be handy. with minor adjustment. Put it on the never never & we will miss the boat. we currently have the big support of the AFL who wish us to get out of our own self-imposed Hell of 48 years. we should be able to talk at the same time as we tie our shoelaces. I wonder if the State government would help, or would Eddie object to us building in they're neck of the Woods?

there is an interesting article that has appeared out of Freo, which I think shows the differing mindsets of our current surviving supporter demographic that's survived, against the grass roots type, who start to climb onboard of other connected clubs via accessibility. the club should look into an away from the 'G' home base that is central to Richmond station. easily accessible to any who want to wander in & get interested. ............................................................................. From Texas to 'G' for this DockerTen years ago, I was a 20-year-old university student, studying and living abroad in Fremantle. Before I arrived, I had neglected to do much research on my destination. I knew Australia had beautiful beaches, gorgeous women and kangaroos. I soon found out it also had rather potent alcoholic beverages, a remarkably thin ozone layer, and the greatest sport in the world. Within a few days, Tim, one other friend and I were on the Esplanade kicking the footy. I bought a footy and carried it with me constantly. At the University of Notre Dame Australia, students fell into three camps: Dockers supporters, Eagles supporters and non-football fans (I still can't decide which of the latter two is worse). After some initial confusion about which group suited me (what is a Docker anyway?) I settled on the purple, red, green and white. I was living in Freo after all, the nautical theme was somewhat intriguing to a landlocked Texan native like me, and after years of ineptitude, the Dockers' future looked bright. Like Fremantle itself, the Dockers were appealing and charming. I used to walk down to training and watch the players run through drills. The club's training facility was in the heart of Fremantle just blocks from my dorm, and the team's practices were surprisingly open to the public. Coming from Texas, my experiences with professional athletes had given me a jaded perspective. As a 12-year-old, I remember seeing Dallas Cowboy Deion Sanders drive his Mercedes golf cart directly past adoring fans at training camp. * I couldn't believe that I could walk straight up to a training session, and players would greet supporters after practice. Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/afl-news/from-texas-to-g-for-this-docker-20130924-2ucai.html#ixzz2frV1cF9z

Latest hundred shows why Shane Watson is Australia's latest incarnation of Adam Gilchrist HE'LL never be as universally loved, but based on performance alone Shane Watson is Australia's present-day incarnation of Adam Gilchrist. In the 1990s and 2000s, players such as Gilchrist, Sri Lanka stars Sanath Jayasuria and Romesh Kaluwitharana, and India's Virender Sehwag changed the role of the top-order batsman in one-day cricket. Rather than trying to sensibly lay a platform like openers do in Test matches, these master blasters were given a licence to thrill. The instructions were to play shots, and lots of them. Jayasuria and Kaluwitharana famously aimed for 100 runs in the first 10 overs, which seems over ambitious even by today's Twenty20 standards. But that didn’t stop them from going for it, and Gilchrist was no different as he went about setting up countless victories for Australia alongside the more restrained Mark Waugh. http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/cricket/latest-hundred-shows-why-shane-watson-is-australias-latest-incarnation-of-adam-gilchrist/story-fnhq5ybi-1226720745184 -------------------------- IMO Watto could be a very good opener, as long as the 2nd & 3rd bats were extremely solid & reliable... this is why I always wanted Warner @ 3. he can score quickly or steady, & would imo be better suited, & a quicker shift of balance for Anderson's seamers, or for Swann, than Watto. I think the key is to settle the No 2 & 3 spots with strong headed batsmen, to get the Max out of Watto. if he gets out early, then a strong 2 & 3 build the innings. Clark at 4.

if so, maybe he's trade material... who have we that may interest them?

yep, & he might be getting some nice bits as well, to help his confidence. electronics, & telemetry.... the mind boggles what they could do with that stuff, they can get tyre air pressures live, & temp's, Imagine how they could change the mapping on the run,,, up, or down. timing, etc... Upload an engine program map upgrade live, over the air ?

do you see JW as a CHB ?

I hope he moves on, into a front seat after 2 or so years, unless vetell moves on himself. but I still don't like the red bullsh.