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^ For all of those who look at the above and and conclude that Oscar is at the same level as Lever as a player, do you consider the following: In which teams defensive 50 has the ball spent most time in over Lever and O-Mac's career? I would almost certainly say ours. Which most obviously means Oscar will see more opportunity of gaining kicks, handballs, disposals, tackles etc ect. I never really understand why posters provide stats like that, given they're playing in two different teams that have been at opposite ends of the ladder for the past three years. Anyone that has a decent eye for the game with a balanced view would agree that Lever, (after an ACL comeback pre-draft) is a significantly better and more talented player than Oscar, even if his numbers don't show it yet to the stat obsessers. That's not even considering where they went in their drafts. Again, Lever was touted as a top 10 pick pre-injury. Oscar had no injury problems and went at 50-odd.

If the thread/discussion re: Lever is of no interest to you, why do you feel the need to comment? This is a [censored] supporters forum. What part of that doesn't compute for you?

@McQueen - Because I saw the article floating around and thought I'd share it as a point of discussion. I too think offering up Brayshaw is going a bit far. There's a whole lot of untapped potential there, although I do think many demonanders believe him to be something that he's not; that being a classy and skilled user of the footy. Gussy will be part of a top five most important players in a couple of years, I'm sure of it. His attack on the ball, man and ability to mark above his head are his strengths. He is dual sided, but definitely not in the Mitchell league. It's an area he needs to clean up though, for sure. I'm sure most are aware of the fact that we'll need to keep as much of our core together as possible to have a shot at the flag. Our core being Hogan, Weeds, Viney, Salem, Petracca, Oliver, Brayshaw, Hunt, Stretch etc. So if we were going to go after Lever, we'd be offering a fringe player and some future picks including a first rounder. Anyway, too early to speculate but he's definitely a player I'd love at the club. I heard Mahoney saying not long ago that we have saved coin to lure someone at the right time and when I look at our list, I believe we're another quality tall defender short and perhaps a classy and skilled power running mid short.

Prepare for the storm that is about to rain down on you.

If we wanted him that badly and he was keen on coming back to Vic/us, we'd be able to satisfy the Crows. Let's hope his girlfriend decides she wants to come back home because that- as he states- (along with family) will be the deciding factor. I think we're two players short of being a well balanced list. Another quality key defender and a Josh Kelly type of mid. (Someone with silky skills and a tank).

Lever waiting on CBA before signing contract Get. Him. Here. 2018 backline: FB Jetta Lever Hibberd HB Hunt T-Mac Salem/Vince/Lewis/Jones

At least we got Pederson out of the trade. Rather than pick no. 12,000 like we did for Morton.

Disagree. Let's leave it at that.

That was one of several-hundred.

How about Aish/Toumpas/Morton for a knockout combo?

Bont without question

Nobody is the same. However, as our list stands right now, Tyson is the least versatile of all our mids and his inside work is hardly far and away better than any of Brayshaw, Viney, Jones, Petracca and Oliver. He may be more valuable once Jones retires. But Kelly would be of greater value to us going into the 2017 season. Nobody at our club possesses the running power or class of Kelly. (Hunt has the pace, not the endurance).

The trade was great for us at the time and was a no-brainer. But as our list stands right now, I'd have Kelly over Tyson. Kelly possesses attributes that our midfield sorely lack. And as good as Tyson is inside, we have a plethora of mids who are super strong inside. Would be a dream if were to land him. But I can't see him moving back home anytime soon.

Dat font tho...

[censored] Essendon

Good call, I've like some of his work this year. Reminds me a bit of Jake Lever in his build. Would happily rookie him.

Post more please.

Here's an idea. Everyone shut the fark up about Heffernan on the Hibberd thread. Best.

[censored] Essendon. I hope we standup and play hardball on this one with Hibberd. I want the MFC to be the club that dictates the play. Too many times have I seen us be bullied by stronger clubs like Essendon. Makes me sick to the stomach.

Edit: Deleted my post as I realised a few of those players were rookie upgrades as people have already pointed out. Shiet.

I know he has said all of that. But I couldn't in my wildest dreams ever see someone like Fyfe leave Freo. He just doesn't seem like the kind of guy to leave. Unless of course he had a fall-out with the club.

Quite the contrary, OD.

Ban him mods. Ban him.

Possibly robbed him from a rising star nom also. Was a joke of a decision. Trac-man is showing the signs we all thought he would show. So exciting. As soon as he realises he doesn't have to play on at every opportunity, the better. No doubts about him though. A player you want in finals.

He'd be an upgrade and offer more versatility than Pedo who he'd likely replace in a hypothetical. And given we've only offered Spencer a one-year deal, it suggests to me we're keeping our 'options' open in regards to players like this. The importance of keeping Gawn fit and on the park cannot be underestimated considering the advantage he gives our mids and side in general. And I think that will be the thinking here. Gawn needs support. Goldstein and Nic Nat both have better support which allows them more breaks both forward and on the pine. Gawn needs to be managed carefully, he is like gold to us. To me, most of the top sides have 'ruckmen height' talls in their forward-line who provide solid relief for their side's number one ruckman. Pedo has provided admirable support at times but I'd be very surprised if supporters would prefer him to a 200cm forward/ruckman who'd potentially provide further relief for Hogan as well as offering better assistance when in the ruck due to his height. But like others, what's hard to envisage is a future forward-line of: Jenkins/Gawn Weideman Garlett Watts Hogan Kent Seems to be too top heavy.... But at the same time it looks awfully difficult to match up on.