T&W

You obviously work inside AFL House....

No way they dont pay enough. I just appreciate the support AD & the AFL gave us - our club at long last is heading in the right direction.

Just for the record how are you AGM questions going? Decided who you are voting for yet? Oh... but wait a minute. Have you worked it out yet?

That statement embodies why the world is in such a bad state right now.

Your comment does say more about you. The AFL is not a charity - this world today you get out of it what you put in. Sadly empathy and sympathy are often confused.

Oh yeah "the players are not trying hard enough" "its this CEO or that President fault .... or the boards fault. " - Is it not?

This club has a fantastic core group of resilient supporters. However, you have to cringe when you read some supporters that criticise the AFL - but I suppose ignorance is bliss.

Should add the general sentiment from the Presidents meeting was "You dont make all clubs equal by making the richer clubs poor"

Does anyone know about the fixture? I thought the idea was you play the teams twice that finished in your third of the ladder the previous year.

My understanding was as part of the last equalisation agreement all clubs INCLUDING the MFC agreed the AFL was a business and for the best interests of all...... the AFL could and would construct the most financially profitable fixture possible.

MFC has already received substantial monetary assistance to reinvest into our Footy Department ..... to rebuild our development coaching staff and increase our massively underfunded under resourced recruiting department. Essentially the AFL massively assisted in "rebuilding our engine".

I believe your Avatar is Aishwarya Rai, a beautiful Bollywood actress. You have good taste.

With all due respect I also love your Avatar Sunline she was a beauty - happy to swap any day.

Thanks T&W, very helpful advice.

No problems - should also add your tech guys acts like a conduit from your recruiters to your development staff. ie

Recruiter might say " I really like this kid" tech guy will come back with strengths and weakness often both video & statistical analysis - then your development staff come in and say " well we are confident we can improve the following weakness etc" or " maybe they cant"

Coach may go to recruiters and say " I want somebody to play role x ie small forward" - recruiters will go and create list of who is available - then again your tech guys will create full packages on the listed players sometimes including interview notes and information.

What you are trying to avoid is placing all the power of a decision in the hands of one person - the more information you have the better quality decisions you can make.

"Darren Farrugia - Recruiting Technology Coordinator"

What would that job be? Anyone know?

Basically in todays game much of the research is done via statistical analysis and countless hours of breaking down potential recruits on-field and off-field strengths and weaknesses. Think Champion Data type info.

Often its games from all around Australia at all levels including draft camp results from around the country.

They do a ton of video work and break each potential recruits games apart. Also another major component is "phantom drafting analysis" - basically trying to pick where players will land so you achieve the best suite of picks.

Another element that has really moved forward in recent years is ranking trades vs keeping the picks and selecting draftees - especially with the advent of free agency this area cannot be under estimated.

Plus lets not forget the old phycology testing - its huge work load collecting all the statistical analysis, coordinating all the software then delivery all the analysis in a readable comparable format.

I was disappointed this aspect of his experience was not followed up and that his reference to the fractured club not expanded although the comment itself was chilling. I wondered if there was more in the interview that was edited out.

But the show was about Todd and his journey and to be honest it was one of the less interesting Mike interviews of which there have been some absolute rippers.

But I'd be fascinated with an insiders view of the role of Jimmy, Don, Garry, Chris, Barry, Cameron, Neale, Paul and Bails on our sad history over the last 10 years or so and Todd would tell it as straight as anyone would I reckon.

I quite enjoyed the interview, nice to hear Mike reaffirm his allegiance to the Demons. Great to hear Todd reemphasize we are heading in the right direction with "good" people but we always anticipated the negative "noise".

Must say I also personally agree the Bails decision was the right decision ... sadly ... 100% agree it never an easy/nice thing to have to do. What is done is done - now we look forward in hope. Go Dees

different area of the club entirely..Back to Melbourne Demons

You do not need Corporate sponsorship to identify a players attitude to hard work

PJ is doing a mighty job starting at Ground Zero that is not in question

ahhh but you need sponsorship, gate receipts, memberships to raise money ... to pay for development coaches, Roos, Goodwin and others dont work for nothing.

ahhh but you need sponsorship, gate receipts, memberships to raise money ...to pay for fitness staff, medical staff etc good people dont work for nothing.

ahhh but you need sponsorship, gate receipts, memberships to raise money ... to pay for more recruiting staff, Pro-Scouts, drafting experts etc - so one person is not making all the decisions and doing most of the work.

ahhh but you need sponsorship, gate receipts, memberships to raise money ..... win lose or draw.

diffrent era - if you dont know the AFL is calling the shots ... now I wonder why??? How is the preparation going for your AGM questions and how you are going to vote ... oh but wait a minute.

ahhh but thats right according to you its all the players fault because "they are not trying" .... bulldust.

The AFL has given the club multiple chances to improve and under Schwab we actually blew the lot. (Jack Viney picked himself)

I do not understand why more on this site do not hold the same contempt, but that's life.

Your passion is admirable your facts are just bulldust.

We have a strong underlying business ... our core business needs more investment to be competitive with other teams.

PJ & the AFL stepped in to invest more money into our core business - Unfortunately our memberships, gate receipts and sponsorship incomes where stagnant - call it self inflicted if you want.

PJ has done an outstanding job fixing sponsorship - now its over to MFC supporters to fix memberships and gate receipts - win, lose or draw.

i don't care what you think Dr. Your rants have always been far more out there than mine

The Carlton template really worked out well didn't it. You blabbed an entire summer on that one...

Laugh....

Then we promptly followed their model and employed a Pro-Scout ( opposition analysts) - hahah so who is laughing now. Thanks MFC we are now reaping the benefits - better quality trades. Go Demons.

Well then maybe the club shouldn't accept ALL the $$$ i have donated over a long period.

2 way street sunshine...

i have no problem with the present structure btw

Well why dont you stop whinging and complaining then? Sounds like to me you are one of our classic keyboard warriors.

Head in the sand hey T & W

"Nothing to see here...."

You obviously cant join the dots. You dont get to ask questions and you dont get a vote for a reason - if you cant work that out for yourself you are more stupid than you make yourself out to be in this thread.

Just for the record we have an AFL approved CEO, AFL had picked President & board - AFL money to restructure our development & recruiting department - things are going along very nicely thanks.

it would have been nice to be allowed to ask questions at the AGM

But of course those wete heavily filtered.

I am genuinely suprised that more members are not sharing my views on this considering the shambles our midfield is still in.

Ask questions at an AGM???? Dont be ridiculous - next you will be asking for a vote. Dont be silly cant you join the dots??? Things are going very nicely these days thank-you very much.

don't worry about t&w

in his previous incarnation he tried to convince us all to follow the direction carlton was taking

LOL

We did you goose we employed a Pro-scout ( opposition analysts ) all be it many years too late - what do you think Kelly O'Donnell does all week. Low and behold our trades are starting to get better - Who would have thought that one out.

T&w

Our coach is on 1.5 mil a year

I would be willing to say Goodwin and mcartney would be doing alright As well

Not all that underfunded these days

Think I already pointed that out above. Cheers

You have no idea how many $$$ i have donated to the MFC.

But you just keep tucking little Jimmy T into bed each night. Make sure he is warm enough.

Meanwhile our midfield is smashed when put under ANY pressure.

Its not all about you SWYL. You need a large community to give. Sadly we have a small community giving . Unless we can reinvent the MFC quickly things are going to be tight for many years to come.

Fair go mate. That kind of support is what Satyr gives out.

I want Top End September action before i leave the planet. Last time i looked Jimmy T was wearing a Scorps jumper, because he absolutely crapped himself in front of goal.

Think you are missing something "I would never trash anybody who works for one of the most under funded footy departments ( development departments ) - recruiting departments in the AFL. ( All be it we have improved in this area thanks to funding from the AFL )"

If you want Top end September action you first better get your hand in your pockets or hope enough other MFC supporters are going to do the biz for you.

And you didn't?

I would never trash anybody who works for one of the most under funded footy departments ( development departments ) - recruiting departments in the AFL. ( All be it we have improved in this area thanks to funding from the AFL )

What is done is done. Last time I looked Jimmy T was running around in a Red & Blue jumper and thats good enough to get my 100% support.

Shhhhhhh........

Yeah Im with you shhhhhh - this thread is all about SWYL rants to trash Todd Viney - for picking a player SWYL wanted Viney to select ( ouch alright ).

Would much rather Scott Selwood at zero cost

Rumours are he is heading to Geelong. .

Its time to move on ladies & gentlemen -

Im loving what Harry Lumumba is bringing to our side.

He has one of the best sets of wheels in the game today. As soon as HL grabs the ball my first thought is where is Jesse Hogan???? .... He is about to be in the play with a long kick coming from HL - Go Dees.

Melbourne supporters whinging about the AFL, TV advertising and gambling - the irony is thats the only things keeping the MFC alive.

Fantastic to see Jack G back hope he holds his spot for the rest of the year and sticks around for many years to come. Go Dees.

I mentioned earlier that I was pretty annoyed at the video posted on the AFL website about Jack Watts. I decided to write the following email to the club:

"I was extremely disappointed and angry at the video posted on the AFL website trying to show all of Jack Watts mistakes from Friday night. I don't think I have ever seen another player get scrutinised this way and think it is completely uncalled for. I hope that the club has brought this to the attention of the AFL and if not I think they should. Watts did some really good things on Friday night and I was very happy with a lot of his efforts. I want to see this club stick up for its players not just pretend it never happened.

Hoping that something can be done."

They just got back to me with the following:

"Thank you for your email and support of the Club.

The Club’s media manager has spoken to AFL Media about the video of Jack’s performance from Friday night’s game. We are disappointed that they have chosen to single out his performance in this way, particularly out of the entire competition.

We appreciate your feedback on the video. If you have any other queries, please do not hesitate to let us know."

It's good to see the club getting on the front foot in regards to that video.

Good on you Don wish we had more supporters like you - prepared to back up our players. Great work.