DubDee

it’s only madness if you think we’ll finish in bottom 4 or close next year

Some draft folks are saying the draft is very even. First 5-6 above but not by much. then from 7-16 at least all even and quality. So just get more first rounders!!

He has people to like posts on social media wish i had people

Get pick 13 from GC Added bonus of screwing up the Pies plans Trade 13 + something for the bombers pick 9 Go to draft with 5 and 9 Nail them are we are back baby!

Of course it's not a non-story. Just wondering, how do you know he 'legitimately wanted out'? or are you guessing based on the media articles and tweets?

LOL the backtracking has begun Pathetic

Not sure why the Hawks want to trade out of this years first round Seems like a strange move unless linked to trades

Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively. Hurts my head to read that

I think it depends how much Oliver blames his behaviour on the club shopping him around last year. If he blames himself, then he could decide to work hard and regain respect But none of us really know what happened so who knows

Try to ignore the trolls mate.

Derksen is not a superstar. The media pressure on us if we refuse Clarries wishes would be huge

This is true but if a player is truely desperate to leave as has been reported then he can put us in a terrible spot by requesting a trade to the Cats Publicly stating he wants to leave, will make it very hard for us to keep him.

Breaking News - Harry Sharp cleaning out his locker at the Lions He wanted to leave so he - requested a trade And then got traded Meanwhile Oliver is desperate to leave the rabble that is the Demons. Maybe he can't find the 'request a trade' form?

Could be. But if Clarry requested a trade, that changes the dynamic and he would get to the Cats I believe

So we have 5 more days of the media re-circulating the Oliver rumours Then on Thursday they will report how we are a shambles and handled this so poorly. Meanwhile the club is literally doing nothing aside from say he is going nowhere

If Oliver desperately wanted out, he might want to start by requesting a trade Can be helpful

I would personally clean out my locker at the end of the season, just to come back to a nice, clean one for the start of preseason Could this just be a simple misunderstanding? lol

Cats only offering pick 17 for Bailey Smith Dogs not biting (pardon the pun) A threat of Bailey walking to them for free is there and I could see Smith treating his old club like dirt Hopefully the Cats have to give up more than pick 17

Has played 16 games over 4 years included 6 as sub Lions have the best depth in the league so no shame in that Great left-field moneyball pick up

He looks pretty pumped in that picture to be coming over!

Once we don't give up too much this is a very clever pick up

At least he admitted he had his hand on it while writing the article 😂

Thanks Sam Mc Love how you state things as fact when you have no idea like the rest of us

‘Oliver clings to hope he might still be traded’ Is there even one person on this site that think he is desperately trying to leave? Any chance these [censored] can be held accountable??