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Che? Who is Halal? You didn't tell me we'd have to share a bottle between 3!

Had 2 Shiraz wines tonight: Lilydale 2013, Beechworth Wine estate 2014.Unfortunately the Lilydale, an export wine to China under the McWilliams banner was great, the Beechworth okay. Just okay because I represent them in Melbourne...I wanted it to be great as well...

Old Xav, all falls into place. I should have picked you at once.

Precisely. Apparently Salem committed an 'unfootb all act'.

probly we could too... On second thoughts, pwobwabwy not. We'd probably start arguing straight away about what bottle of red. You'd nominate a Shiraz, I'd nominate a Barolo. And, I don't drink beer. Anyway, the bottom line is that most of the world's woes are directly related to the behavior of your ilk. We wouldn't solve anything. We'd be even more twain than Mark at the end.

So Joel Selwood elbows Mitchell's head into the turf and gets a fine. Two things. A, I wish he'd slugged him harder. B; Surely this is the clearest act of bias yet seen. Especially if Bartel was on the panel. There was talk of 'unfootball Acts'. What a joke. You elbow someone in the back of the head, slug his face into the turf and it's deemed by the likes of Bartel as a 'football act.' It's not only a farce, it's also a bloody disgrace.

What's the topic then? That all Muslims are terrorists who want to impose Sharia law and make us all walk around in hijabs and if we don't Manchester will inevitably recur repeatedly? Well, pardon me for trying to propose a different proposition. Pardon me because I recoil from this facile, racist nonsense.

Coaches AFLCA Votes: 10 Hibberd 6 Salem 4 T. Macdonald 3 Lewis 3: Oscar MC 3 Watts 1 Jetta Apart from Lewis, I believe they copied me! I will sue for plagiarism.

I'm sick of reading your Pauline Hanson, Ku Klux Klan- like anti Muslim monologues.I'm also sick of you repeating MSM propaganda. I'm sick of the way people of your ilk capitulate their brain cells to a narrative of lies and nonsense invented by your masters

6: Hibberd 5: Salem 4: O.McDonald 3: T.McDonald 2: Jetta 1: Watts Unlucky: Hannan

I'VE LOST COUNT OF THE NUMBER OF TIMES I'VE WATCHED THE REPLAYS AND NOTED HIS SILKY SKILLS, MOST OF WHICH HAVE GONE UN-NOTICED BY COMMENTATORS.

For whom, shall I ask? Have you taken yours? I've taken mine. The Vitamin B,C, the Zylo, the Coveram, the Nexium, the Glucosamine, and most importantly, to celebrate the mighty Demon Victory, a shot of Chopin Vodka with the Herrings. I bet you don't dine as well.

Have yet to watch the game but I like the sentiment, Andrew Biffen. Would you like to meet before the Swans game, we can have a round of fisticuffs which I'd lose after watching your performance in LYgon Street, then we can kiss and make up and I'll buy you a beer, then, when you're not watching, we'll do business the Australian way, I.E. I'll give you a smelly sock on the jaw, the jaw will be broken and from that point on we'll be the best of mates. Just don't talk about Muslims, the De sal plant or defend George Pell , otherwise I'd have to break your other jaw and probably your nose as well. Remember, Jimmy Bartel does not sit on the Tribunal for internecine strife. Therefore, 'Football Acts' are now irrelevant. You have been warned.

No, Wreck, I really, really hate tripe.

Did anyone starve or die in Ireland during the potato famine? Did anyone starve or die in English concentration camps during the Boer War? Did any Iraqis starve or die during the post uranium depleted boycott on Iraq after the first so-called Gulf War? You guys seem as obsessed with presenting a squeaky clean narrative of so-called western 'culture' - read obsession with AND USING weapons of mass destruction - that you don't see the real picture. Just ask any refugee from the Middle east or Afghanistan about the reality of being the victims of USA produced bombs and uranium depleted ordinance.

I also hate tripe.

Actually, I'm a black dyke. Does that answer your irrelevant question?

Reading some of the 'political'posts on this site is like sitting in on a Ku Klux Klan board meeting. Or even worse, a One Nation Party Room conference. I'm sure Pro Dee is really Pauline Hanson, a closet Demon supporter because of her imagined notion of the traditional ties of the Melbourne Football Club to The Establishment. And Biffen is code for Bolt, Andrew Bolt. Oi weh, I'm getting out of this boat, I vant to save my life, as my mother used to say.

Am so. You just refuse to be enlightened. You are very recalcitrant, Wrecker.

You left out the Indians who we ought to deport in solidarity with out pioneering wagon training brethren and sisters in the Wild Wild West who always had big problemes with Indians attacking their wagons. The poor b..stards, I always felt so sorry for them, but, always, in the nick of time, along came John Wayne or General Custer to save civilization.

Correct, Mr Daisy, once again my trusty fact checker has corrected me. You know the one I mean, however. I have said it before, I'll say it again, the Anti Muslim hysteria we are facing, witnessing, tolerating comes from the same place that Antisemitism comes from. It comes from ignorance, hatred, prejudice and a refusal to accept that we are all human beings made from the same flesh and blood, as it were. This ignorance attempts to blame all the ills of the world on people we generally know absolutely nothing about, people who been at the butt of our hatred, bombs, colonialism and calumny since long before WW1. What appalls me most is that this kind of low grade bigotry, racism and prejudice is common the to both the least intelligent members of white so-called christian societies and people who claim to have intelligence. In the meantime, stupidity and evil rule the world. The USA and its cohort of criminal nations are still in Afghanistan, ostensibly because Osama Bin Laden was hiding in a cave there in 2001, the USA and its cohort of criminals have destroyed Iraq based on lies, have decimated Libya, attempted to destroy Syria and the people with the intelligence of mental midgets then blame the refugees, who were made refugees by our criminal and wanton belligerence, for wanting to seek safety and shelter from the bombs we have dropped on them.

Is this 'document' the 21st century version of The Protocols of Zion?

I think, in the end, your surrender is the only option for mental midgets like you and me. Ever tried to argue with a 7th Day Adventist? Or someone who believes the earth is flat? Or someone who believes God was a real estate agent who gave them the land of Israel? It's just pointless. People like them - and Biffen and Pro Dee - know all there is to know on the subject, so there. They have Papal omniscience, you see. I believe God gave them that gift even though they're nor popes.

I'm not sure about what to make of your reply. You seem to be saying that the Koran demands that Muslims kill 'unbelievers'. I'm also not sure about the relevance of having read the Koran or not having read all of the Koran. Have you also read every word of our holy bible, of the Torah and the Talmud? In all of these texts you'll find exhortations to perform the most extreme acts of barbarity in so-called infidels, or gentiles, or non-christians. So what? As Choke pointed out it took 20 minutes of google search to find numerous examples of Muslim clerics preaching peace and tolerance. Then again, look up a website called 'Ugly Truth' and you will find numerous examples of Rabbis exhorting Jews to murder Palestinians. So what? And just listen to the likes of Pauline Hanson, a right and proper christian, and you'll wonder just why christians pretend to be tolerant or peace loving. ( Also, I almost burst out laughing when you mentioned reporting to Fain and Epstein, as though these dudes are the paragon of truth and justice: I'll just nominate Fain's reply to Malcolm Fraser about the USS Liberty which the Israelis tried for two and a half hours to sink during the 67 War. Fraser said it was an example of rogue Israeli behaviour, Fain said three times, It was an accident. Go Johnie! ) What most of the anti muslim hysteria boils down to on this site is a great failure to comprehend, let alone, of trying to comprehend the history and the context of these attacks. Because if you took the trouble to find the real cause you'd have to come to the conclusion that the real cause of so-called Terrorism is the reaction of the weak and the helpless to the much greater terror inflicted on them. Leunig's cartoon in the Age recently hit the nail on the head. It alluded to the terror inflicted on the world by British bombs. Why does no-body on this site discuss our Terrorism, USA terrorism, etc etc? The answer to that, I believe, unfortunately, is that we sit in comfortable armchairs and we're quite happy to follow countries like the USA into any war, we're quite happy for them to bomb countries into oblivion, with our token contribution, as long as these 'terrorist' never bite back. In other words, we are a 'civilisation' which either can't or won't confront itself in the mirror of justice. Therefore we forget that everybody has a right to peace and justice, not just christian white men.

Hear hear. Then there's the fence sitting snipers like Daisy, the professional Bolt like puppets like Pro Dee, then there's the demented and deranged racist lunatics like Biffen who at least has the redeeming feature of irony and a sense of humour. Oi Weh, I get so sick of right wing fringe lunatics who believe and propagate the bulls**t that Rudolph and his cronies propagate, not to mention the likes of Uncle Sam in his many disguises, the utter fascist, racist nonsense that ALWAYS comes out of British mouthpieces, examples, Thatcher, Churchill, Blair - they're all the same, criminal serial murderers.