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Now you're really getting convoluted. Apart from that, it is a total waste of money: the members of parliament should have decided this. This is their bloody job, for crying out loud.

I know many ss female couple who also WANT TO RAISE A FAMILY. There is absolutely no evidence that the children of these relationships are any worse off. Why? Because they still have two parents who love them and want the best for them.

Relax, lads. It took Hardwick how many years become a 'mature' coach? Many posters are fixed on 'thinking too precisely o'er the event'. The bottom line is the Demons missed the finals by .5 of a percent. Had they made it - given their track record against teams like Port and Adelaide this year - they could have done anything. Have faith.

Don't forget Howe...

Regarding drafting 'difficult' prospects, an ex afl listed player whose wines I represent told me last year Oliver was regarded as a psycho case in the North East area where Oliver played a lot of Junior footy. He said most recruiters stayed well clear of him. It seems they were wrong. It also seems Melbourne took a gamble. Or they knew something other recruiters didn't.

What was Martin like back then? Were there obvious signs he would be, shall we say, a singular individual?

You want to forget - apart from the fact that hindsight is so easy and obvious - that Richmond tried to sell off Martin for years and nobody wanted to go near him. A fact.

The synchronicity of this post is mind boggling. I've just finished a post on Wine Front about a Coriole wine. Next I see this and recall playing this song to the owner/winemaker in 1987 when I was his agent in Melbourne. He didn't love it as much as I do and still do. I'm a serious Classical Music buff, always had time for Tom Petty - saw him when he backed Dylan at Kooyong in the late 80's - and if I play rock/pop it's Iggy, Lou Reed, The Kills, Dylan, Cohen, Crowded House and Tom P. Vale, Tom, you was a good dude.

Two sets of rules, one for the Tigers, the crap rules for the Crows.

Corey phoned me today. Here's the number: 03 91112387. The message is sheer bullshite and random and irrelevant fear-mongering. What a vile human being: he joins Tony Abbottoir and Dutton in my hierarchy of the lowest form of human life imaginable.

It's not the point: the point is the ridiculous and constant and abject criticism of a very talented and loyal Melbourne player who has kicked more goals and taken more marks and got more kicks in the AFL than anyone who has ever criticized him on Demonland.

Best Demonland post I've read for a long time. Good also to find a fellow musical cultured beast. ( By the way, I hate Toscanini, am a Furtwangler man, and am not a Horowitz fan as well. Give me Arrau and Richter any day,)

I don't understand what this has to do with the question of whether gay men or women have the right to marry. As they say in the classics, boys will be boys. What happened in the Ok mines has nothing to do with this question. Maybe that's why they were called Ok mines. I assume a Muslim could even eat pork there, if you get my drift...

Yes, you've confirmed it: you're a comedian taking the puss. Either that or you're still an altar boy...

For someone with at least half a brain, you say some silly things, old boy. And, by the way, your fears of the 'Left' reek of paranoia. As in ''..One day you might see a pattern and realise there is an orchestrated campaign, using violence protest as a back up ,to create civil war in this nation for no good reason.There is an endemic problem in our Unis and Media ,who are now trying to control speech itself.'' Really. Well I'll be...

Sure, that's bound to happen. Australia under their hammer and sicle while they read the Herald Sun and The Australian, spooning red sugar on their red weaties.

His sister?

Wouldn't have needed all this to and fro god bothering, 'definition debate', etc etc if the ultra fascist conservatives didn't have Turnbulldust by the scrotum.

For the record, all this Trade Watts stuff craps me to tears. I think he has become a remarkable and - until the injury this season - one of our most consistent performers. It's obvious there is a rift between what Roos expected and what Goodwin expects. Have also heard from an ex AFl player who knows people connected with Melbourne FC that Watts is on the table. I would be very sad to see him go.

I played against Laurie Sandilands in a final. I kicked 2 goals. I could have been star!!! I guess where your dad and uncles came from could have been an issue...

At Skinner Reserve, Anthony Ferguson and co? I played at Skinner in the under 16's... How did you become a Demon man?

I was a Sunshine boy. Saw a 1962 or so Port versus Sunshine blood bath at Selwyn Park, then home of Sunshine Footy and cricket club. My under 16 Sunshine footy coach was an ex port player, Jack Storey. I still barracked for them today. Turned the TV off in last quarter, the Tigers 2 goals in front. Felt elated when they won. I don't like the Tigers. They have an ugly sense of cocky arrogance about them these days. I hope Adelaide well and truly creams them.

The bottom line is marriage isn't normal anyway. Many married couples are having/had the same sex relationship since they met. How boring is that? Jara and I aren't inner-urban yuppies, by the way. I live in Box Hill, unfortunately a long way from Carlisle Street and bagels and Poppy Seed cakes. I grant that homophobia won't die. The fact that most churches preach homophobia - ironically often the preacher is a pedophile homosexual himself - doesn't help. The bottom line is the question of how a person's sexuality can make any difference to anybody else's life. Who gives a flying fluck about a person's sexuality???????? The bottom line is we're all essentially the same, made from flesh and blood and bones and mainly H2 O. Some of us are black, some of us are white, some of us have hair, some of us are patient, some of us pedal bull shite, some of us pedal bikes. It''s a motely crew in the end, who just keep finding ways to kill and hate each other. Makes no sense to me.

No he doesn't. But please keep in mind the 4 remaining gospels are 'concensus based' and deeply edited by church elders in the 3rd century. There were over 200 so-called gospels. Even the 4 they handed down contradict each other. It is all humbug: it is a religion made up by humanoids petrified by the unknown and their mortality. Also, most of the basic stories - example the 'virgin birth, the 3 wise men, the manger in Bethlehem are all descended from creation myths and 'god' stories prevalent in most cultures at the time. The Jesus birth story comes straight from India...For example, the date of Christmas coincides with a pagan feast day etc etc etc etc etc

Are you a comedian?