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you not very nice chap, Biffen.

you not very nice chap, Biffen....

Ha ha Wreckster, as though your animus comes from facts rather than ideology. Anyone can cherry pick 'facts'.

Jordan Lewis put things into perspective when he said sides learn more from losses than from wins. He also mentioned that the Hawks lost a few games by ten goals just before finals when they won flags. Have faith, my friends, we have lost one game in the past seven. Yes, Collingwood wiped us, but as Tom Mc said, it could have been, and was very often, worse. There is a great saying in literature, Homer nods...

My goodness gracious me, been banned for a week for putting the letter L into a well known swear word and I come back to the same old nonsense. I applaud you Jara and the Earl of Hood, but in the end, you can't argue with the sheer logic and omnipotent knowledge of just about everything on the face of the earth that the likes of ET, PD , the once mighty Biffen when he played for the Dees but alas and alack no more under his acronym, Skuit and the Emblem man post to these pages. On most sites they'd be banned for spreading hatred and propaganda but I won't say any more ...

While I'm on my high horse, has the VFL done anything about the violence and behind the play thuggery of Williamstown on Sunday? According to Drunk'n Rawlings was livid after and during the game. I have understood that this violence has been outlawed from the game. Apparently not so. Apparently you can still get away with it.

I understand this has nothing to do with Demons but it is to do with the health of the game. Rance performed one of his most blatantly absurd and bulldusty dives on the weekend, was rewarded with a free kick and today his coach comes out and says there is nothing wrong with the way this soap star in his own lunchtime plays the game. He then criticised those who have raised their voices about this serial offender's antics. What annoys me is that even those who criticise this so called 'legend' almost apologise that they can fault Rance because he is a 'great' player, after all. Rance's claim to great player status is totally immaterial to the discussion about his flagrant and continued breaches not only of the spirit of the game but the basic laws of the game. In other words, he's a bloody cheat who deserves to be called out for his cheating and his total disrespect for the game. He plays like someone who feels he is entitled. In other words, he plays like a kid who has never grown up, who is entrapped by his own sense of privilege and vanity.

This is becoming even more absurd. There is a site called Evil Bible.com which catalogues the atrocities, racism and sexism in the Bible and the Torah. Steven Wells also wrote 'The Skeptic's Annotated Bible'. Funny how Prodee just quotes Wells when it suits his agenda. There is a site called Evil Bible.com which catalogues the atrocities, racism and sexism in the Bible and the Torah. The bottom line is that all of these ancient texts are simply annotations and projections of life as it was lived at the time. To single out the Muslim faith in this context is simply a sad and sick joke. To attempt to use the above to persuade us that there is only one evil religion implies none of us have any brain cells to rub together, that we should all simply reduce our prejudices and loathing to the levels of the Pauline Hansons of the world.

And Saudi Arabian Wahhabism fostered by the Brits....

I've only watched the replay but I thought the Doggies were up and ready and pretty organised yesterday. They would have beaten a lot of sides the way they played yesterday. Not having a decent forward apart from the Wanton Bontom hurts them though. There's something settled and organized about the Demons this year. It's like they've turned a 'mental' corner. Our forwards are basically just very classy...

I played Under 16 in the western suburbs. It was always rough playing against teams from the Willy area. Also, where were the umpires when all this violence was going on today?

And, just for the record, when Lever was playing yesterday the Dogs scored 3 goals. They scored another 4 in the next three quarters and a bit... ( No, I'm not saying Lever was the reason the Dogs scored three goals.)

I agree, once again. But, we are not a one man team: if we deserve to win a flag it will be because we were able to cover our injuries. Last year we fell short. We're a better side this year.

I agree. However, Gawn went down early in the year, then Spencer. We still won games without them, also without Hogan, Jones and Viney...

I truly feel sorry for Lever. However, for the doomsayers, remember we won a lot of games last year without Gawn, Jones, Hogan, Viney and Watts who was really good in the first half of the year. Also, we won them without Lever. In 2016 the Dogs were decimated by injuries to some of their best players. Guess what, others stepped up. I'm sure we have enough ammunition to cope with this loss.

I've now seen Smith playe the last 3 games and while he makes useful contributions, I can't help but believe Pedersen is a much better bet, a much better all round player. And in the end, I'd take Garlett into a final before I'd take Baker. Garlett's poor games were earlier in the season, before Mcdonald, before Viney, when there were simply too many blind bombing runs. Baker will be very good and what he does is very good: I just don't think he does them often enough yet.

6: jetta 5: Oliver 4: T.Mc Donald 3: Hogan 2: Salem 1: Gawn

Just finished watching the Jarrah ( SIGH) highlights and there was Nev, playing as a forward. There was Mr Jones, Mr Watts, but the guy who caught my eye - apart fro Jarrah ( SIGH) is nev. Love the guy so much.

This Bulldog boy sounds very astute and articulate to me. The advantage, I presume, of a Western Suburbs education in life.

Ban the Bomb.

Robert Pyman Dean Irving Wayne Henwood Dan Ward Sean Smith...

Rod Owen

Started with us then moved to Carlton

Farmer? We were his first club. Ditto Martin Pyke.And Broadbridge... Goodwin Bennett McDonald from Brisbane, the millionaire Jackson by 2 We were Francis's first club..

Drysdale, I was brought up in Sunshine. Played under 16 footy for Sunshine against Braybrook. Saturday morning, the stench of the abattoirs hovering. A guy called Peter Ponton, a Braybrook boy, coached me in my last year there..