Leoncelli_36

Gotta keep this place interesting

Close the thread then. No point even discussing a hypothetical scenario according to this logic.

What’s the bigger fish we are frying then chef?

So we give up the momentum of this year, lose 11 players , bring in three and then hope we stay afloat to have a tilt at the 2019 draft and then open the window again in 2020. Is that really what you suggesting ?

My point exactly. We are not going for a five year plan. Taking a kid that can come in next year and impact is fine, waiting a year to draft a kid that may take 2 or three years to develop is stupid. Pure and simple. Hence my surprise at those suggesting that we just take next years first rounder. We need a pacey mid. Have needed this for three years. That is the priority. Anyone, I’m done . I’ve had a Xanax and a bottle of scotch, as suggested and now just look forward to Monday. I hope the deals are done swiftly.

I am not outraged at something that hasn’t happened, I am outraged that people on here are now pandering to media talk about what Hogan is actually worth. People have gone from we will only accept 2 first rounders to oh we will take next year’s first, coz we will just be able to pluck another key forward then. I mean, honestly, you all have no idea how difficult drafting is and just how hard it is to remain competitive at this level. This is the tightest the AFL has been in years and all clubs are looking at improving. If you get left behind for just one season, we’ll you will know what the Doggies have felt the last two seasons. While we won two finals this year, remember that we made finals by one game. One.

So you’d be comfortable with pick 5 for Steven May

Nowhere near it. I just can’t believe the full circle we have come on. In my view, and I have stated it earlier, we are playing a dangerous game. We have just made a prelim and are looking at turning over 11 blokes. We have no idea what is coming our way but there has been very little to get excited about at THIS STAGE! Hogan is a super talent and we hold the cards, he is contracted ffs, if we fold for a lesser deal it is bad PR and bad football department operations.

OH and we will use pick 5 on a South Aussie in Rankine so in 2 years we can have the chat about him going home to SA and the circus can start again . Ffs. Roll on Monday please

What’s more staggering is that we get pick 5 for Hogan that then goes to GC for May and we are waiting in that case until next year to bring a kid in what is a weaker draft than this year. If we take a future pick we are dissing ourselves. We started at two top ten picks this year. Why are we now pondering taking a future 1st ? Is it because the media have talked it down? Am I missing something? Will GC take the future 1st for May ? Are we able to trade that future first since we did so last year? We are turning over 11 blokes . Where are we filling these list spots ? With what ?

It’s just his management saying that s MFC are dudded. It means we can’t force Freos hand and say give us two top picks or next year we send him to West Coast

I appreciate that our time is now and we are doing all we can to have a tilt, but my concern is more about what is being brought in. What is out there that we are having a crack at? If you are improving your list, you can’t simply move players on and replace them with players of lesser quality. I don’t know that that will happen, but I don’t know that it won’t. We need players that improve our deficiency. Leg speed is one of those major deficiencies. If KK is the answer to that, then fantastic. He has played very little footy in recent times though.inwould have thought we would have been after a quality established mid, and maybe we still are, but it looks like other clubs are ahead of us. I will be happy to be proven wrong and see us land a big fish. I admit that the recruiting in recent years has been very good.

Either Mahoney and Co. have a whole lot of players agreeing to come to us or this trade period may be viewed as a total balls up. We are going to have 10 players out the door, all of whom played roles in season 2018, and so far the only players we look set to get are Preuss, May, KK. With the exception of KK, I am not sure any of these inclusions address our lack of midfield pace and speed. There must be something brewing. I sure hope there is because we are losing a forward and without Pedo we have no pinch hitter. We lose the experience of Vince. We lose the hardness of Vanders through the midfield and we lose the butcher skills of Tyson. It’ll all play out, I am just slightly concerned about the breaking up of a list that just got into a preliminary final. I know some will say a lot of these players are fringe, but each contributed something in 2018. In Hogan’s case, 47 goals. Kent a match winning performance in the west. We could keep going. This turnover is a risk and I hope it’s been well calculated

If he goes and all we get in return is May, it’s a massive failure as far as I am concerned. We hold the cards and this would be a fold. We are losing a number of depth players in addition and the landscape of the best 22 is shifting. The key to the success last year is that when a player went down we had plenty of capable players stepping up. We would sure as hell want to get some talent in and just securing May in exchange for Hogan won’t facilitate that.

Didn’t Dusty tour GWS end of last season ?

It’s a fair point, if Hogan goes and now without Pedo as a gap filler, what would be do if we lost either TMAC or Weid? Tim Smith has never shown me anything at AFL level that suggests he is capable. Is he the next in line though? Is Preuss part of this plan?

I tried calling in all morning, fired up and ready to take him to task. He has no idea what he is talking about. He is a kid journo trying to make a name for himself.his comment that Hogan should walk into the draft, shows a complete lack of understanding of what is at play, he clearly doesn’t understand what a contract is. He then went on to say we won’t get anything done until the deadline of trade week and thinks it will play out til the final minutes- what planet is this [censored] from? Melbourne won’t entertain that because it prevents them getting those picks to another club. He really had no idea and then next time he is on I am going to go him. The problem with these talkback shows is as soon as you call them out or get into an educated debate that makes them look silly, they simply mute the call and use the delay to wind the convo up. Gutless

? these blokes are literally just making it up on the run

These blokes on SEN, Dal Santo and whoever this other Fa-log is, are just guessing and dribbling shite. They just said that the Hogan deal will go down to the last minute deadline. Why would that happen? Melbourne won’t let that happen. They have clearly stated thy Hogan will decide what he wants before next week. Melbourne need to know as they are after May and others. They won’t take the top10 picks to the draft. This is so well known and Mahoney has given away plenty. They are now discussing May and Sam McClure reckons he gets to melbourne. How can that happen if Hogan doesn’t go. Making it up. I wanna ring in.

That we are all negaitube That we are negative and if you come here to read what we post you feel bad about yourself , that’s the just of what he said

I learnt very little from the BnF last night. No loose lips from any player. what I did learn is that Gawny reads demonland and has @Demonland4276 in his gun hahha hi Max xx

Coz clubs don’t have smoking rooms? Last year before the bnf he posted on Instagram a photo of his room at Crown, forgetting he had a pack of darts and rolling papers sitting on the table. Wake up

I reckon a bit will play out at the Bluey tonight. Usual platform for a bit of Gossip and players to flag their intentions or have the intentions of the club aired

SPOT on! He isn’t damaging at all, that’s his greatest downfall. If he had awareness and the speed to run inside fifty and goal on the run, he’d be a jet! Sadly, he does not possess said attribute. He is a slow thinker and when given the opportunity to do damage inn tr attack, he muffs it 9 times out of ten.

The whole point is that the kid is aloof and shows very little emotion. He is hard to gage and I reckon some see that as a non committal attitude. What emotion we do see is often negative on-field stuff. I have never had an attachment to Hogan. He may be a super talent but he is uninspiring. The bloke is 100 per cent out the door and the sooner the circus moves on the better. I wish him all the best in Perth, I don’t know that he has the mental resolve to fulfill his potential. Dealing with a dill like Ross Lyon will be fun for him. At least he can have a surf every day