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And the lyrics of the song ... ACROSS THE UNIVERSE by Lennon & McCartney Words are flowing out like Endless rain into a paper cup They slither wildly as they slip away across the universe. Pools of sorrow waves of joy Are drifting through my opened mind Possessing and caressing me. Jai Guru Deva. Om Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Images of broken light, which Dance before me like a million eyes, They call me on and on across the universe. Thoughts meander like a Restless wind inside a letter box They tumble blindly as they make their way across the universe. Jai Guru Deva. Om Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Sounds of laughter, shades of life Are ringing through my opened ears Inciting and inviting me. Limitless undying love, which Shines around me like a million suns, It calls me on and on across the universe Jai Guru Deva. Om Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Jai Guru Deva. Jai Guru Deva. Jai Guru Deva. Jai Guru Deva. Jai Guru Deva. Jai Guru Deva.

This was Whispering Jack's tribute to Troy on the first anniversary of his death:- ACROSS THE UNIVERSE WITH TROY by Whispering Jack Three hundred and sixty-five days ago the earth moved, the seas split and a wave was sent across the ocean leaving a trail of devastation that took with it a quarter of a million lives across two continents. We were touched by the tragedy; we felt its sadness and then life went on. Soon after, we could have been forgiven for thinking that despite the enormity of the event, the world remained unchanged. Seemingly, nothing did change our world in 2005. People still died whether by natural causes, by natural disasters like earthquakes, floods and hurricanes, by epidemics such as AIDS or by mans own hand everywhere on the planet but most notably in the deserts of Darfur, in the streets of Baghdad and even in the London Underground. "Nothing's gonna change my world" These are the words of the late John Lennon. Perhaps a single individual in a vast universe may feel that there is nothing he or she can do to change our world. But we are not totally helpless - we can make a difference. Trish Broadbridge, the Melbourne Football Club and friends proved this at Phi Phi Island - at the very place where their fallen husband and comrade Troy perished in the Boxing Day tsunami of 2004. Their persistence and endeavour enabled the building of a school for the children of the devastated island - the finishing touches were applied with their own bare hands. That generations of young Thai children to come will benefit from their labour bears testament to the fact that all of us can make a difference. We can change the world.

Jayden Hunt is a the subject of our latest special feature ... THE HUNT FOR ANDY'S NEPHEW by Whispering Jack When the Melbourne Football Club introduced the concept of a scholarship squad in the mid 1970s the first player to graduate from there to the senior team was half forward flanker Andrew Moir from Beaumaris who played in the Demons' Under 19s in 1976 and made his debut as an 18 year old in round 1, 1977 against South Melbourne at the MCG. Coach Bob Skilton placed the Mentone Grammar graduate on the wing in his debut game which saw a bad loss for the Demons who struggled throughout the season and finished second last. Moir played the next four matches (2 goals), all of them defeats and then lost his place in the team to Tom Flower, brother of champion player, Robbie. He didn't reappear in the senior team until the opening round of the following season under new coach Dennis Jones. That season was a disaster for the club but Moir established himself as an elusive half forward who could take a grab and kick goals, playing 18 games (13 goals) in his team's wooden spoon season. Moir remained a regular under his third coach Carl Ditterich (1979-80) and again in Ron Barassi's first year at the helm but he played his last game in round 22, 1981 against Hawthorn at Princes Park to finish with career statistics of 73 games for 68 goals. He remained at the club in 1982 but failed to play a game and was traded to North Melbourne in a straight swap for Rodney Wright at the end of the year. He did not manage a game for the Kangaroos. The 183cm, 74.5kg Moir's best season was 1979 when he kicked 25 goals including a career best five goals against North Melbourne in round 9. He was fortunate to be missing injured later in the season when the club recorded its worst ever result in its history - a 190-point loss to Fitzroy at VFL Park. Times were tough around the club during Moir's career. He didn't play in a winning team until his second year at the club, had four coaches, the team took two wooden spoons and he personally tasted victory only 12 times, a winning percentage of only 16.43%. Fast forward three decades into the future and Andy Moir, as he was often called and who wore guernsey number 29 during his time at Melbourne, will fittingly passing on that jumper number to his nephew Jayden Hunt who was drafted at number 57 in last month's national draft. While Jayden's uncle made his path to the club via its scholarship squad and under 19 team (now superceded as a talent pathway by the TAC Cup), Hunt came onto an AFL list quietly, without any fanfare. He is the quintessential smoky. He played his junior football with East Sandringham and at Brighton Grammar where he was small but dogged in his early teens. Then, between school years 10 and 11 he grew over a foot in height. His growth spurt which has taken him to his current 187cm and 76kg caused him to miss a lot of football (he captained the school tennis team instead) and he was far off the radar when he tried to make the Sandringham Dragons Under 18 squad earlier this year. The youngster who has amazing talent, dexterity and pace missed out, meaning that he was never in the AFL's main talent programme. Instead, he was confined to school football at Brighton Grammar and a couple of games for the old boys under 19 team in the VAFA. He was impressive enough at that level to make the APS representative team where he starred and that effort earned him a place in the Young Guns squad that played in the week before the VFL grand final. Hunt was the only member of two teams of hopefuls who was TAC Cup age and he impressed enough to be selected in the main draft. A top sprinter who has run an 11.1 second 100 metres at APS level, his pace makes him a stand out. Those attributes must have impressed some of the talent scouts who came to watch his more fancied schoolmates. On the night of the draft, SEN's Mark Fine described him as an outstanding prospect. He told of how he went to an APS game to watch co-commentator Robert Shaw coach Brighton Grammar at Caulfield Grammar. Shaw's team contained two top 10 draft prospects in Josh Kelly and Christian Salem but it was speedster Hunt who caught his eye. He took kick outs playing off half back and ran and carried all day. Shaw was equally effusive calling him a "revelation" in his team when asked about Hunt but added that he was light and would need plenty of time. Shaw explained that the down side with Hunt was that "he's never run a lap or lifted a weight". In that respect, his story is not dissimilar to that of Collingwood's Paul Seedsman. If Hunt is to follow in that player's footsteps, he has also has some good football genes. Apart from his former Demon uncle, Jayden is said to be a descendent of five-time Collingwood premiership player Harold Rumney, who was part of the Magpie era when they won four successive flags from 1927-1930. And his mother plays golf with the mother of another celebrated Brighton Grammarian Jack Watts. It might be a while before we see the raw youngster in Melbourne colours, but Demon fans are a patient lot. We've waited thirty years to see the next coming of Andy Mohr wearing the number 29. Let's hope Melbourne is more successful in Hunt's time at the club.

When the Melbourne Football Club introduced the concept of a scholarship squad in the mid 1970s the first player to graduate from there to the senior team was half forward flanker Andrew Moir from Beaumaris who played in the Demons' Under 19s in 1976 and made his debut as an 18 year old in round 1, 1977 against South Melbourne at the MCG. Coach Bob Skilton placed the Mentone Grammar graduate on the wing in his debut game which saw a bad loss for the Demons who struggled throughout the season and finished second last. Moir played the next four matches (2 goals), all of them defeats and then lost his place in the team to Tom Flower, brother of champion player, Robbie. He didn't reappear in the senior team until the opening round of the following season under new coach Dennis Jones. That season was a disaster for the club but Moir established himself as an elusive half forward who could take a grab and kick goals, playing 18 games (13 goals) in his team's wooden spoon season. Moir remained a regular under his third coach Carl Ditterich (1979-80) and again in Ron Barassi's first year at the helm but he played his last game in round 22, 1981 against Hawthorn at Princes Park to finish with career statistics of 73 games for 68 goals. He remained at the club in 1982 but failed to play a game and was traded to North Melbourne in a straight swap for Rodney Wright at the end of the year. He did not manage a game for the Kangaroos. The 183cm, 74.5kg Moir's best season was 1979 when he kicked 25 goals including a career best five goals against North Melbourne in round 9. He was fortunate to be missing injured later in the season when the club recorded its worst ever result in its history - a 190-point loss to Fitzroy at VFL Park. Times were tough around the club during Moir's career. He didn't play in a winning team until his second year at the club, had four coaches, the team took two wooden spoons and he personally tasted victory only 12 times, a winning percentage of only 16.43%. Fast forward three decades into the future and Andy Moir, as he was often called and who wore guernsey number 29 during his time at Melbourne, will fittingly passing on that jumper number to his nephew Jayden Hunt who was drafted at number 57 in last month's national draft. While Jayden's uncle made his path to the club via its scholarship squad and under 19 team (now superceded as a talent pathway by the TAC Cup), Hunt came onto an AFL list quietly, without any fanfare. He is the quintessential smoky. He played his junior football with East Sandringham and at Brighton Grammar where he was small but dogged in his early teens. Then, between school years 10 and 11 he grew over a foot in height. His growth spurt which has taken him to his current 187cm and 76kg caused him to miss a lot of football (he captained the school tennis team instead) and he was far off the radar when he tried to make the Sandringham Dragons Under 18 squad earlier this year. The youngster who has amazing talent, dexterity and pace missed out, meaning that he was never in the AFL's main talent programme. Instead, he was confined to school football at Brighton Grammar and a couple of games for the old boys under 19 team in the VAFA. He was impressive enough at that level to make the APS representative team where he starred and that effort earned him a place in the Young Guns squad that played in the week before the VFL grand final. Hunt was the only member of two teams of hopefuls who was TAC Cup age and he impressed enough to be selected in the main draft. A top sprinter who has run an 11.1 second 100 metres at APS level, his pace makes him a stand out. Those attributes must have impressed some of the talent scouts who came to watch his more fancied schoolmates. On the night of the draft, SEN's Mark Fine described him as an outstanding prospect. He told of how he went to an APS game to watch co-commentator Robert Shaw coach Brighton Grammar at Caulfield Grammar. Shaw's team contained two top 10 draft prospects in Josh Kelly and Christian Salem but it was speedster Hunt who caught his eye. He took kick outs playing off half back and ran and carried all day. Shaw was equally effusive calling him a "revelation" in his team when asked about Hunt but added that he was light and would need plenty of time. Shaw explained that the down side with Hunt was that "he's never run a lap or lifted a weight". In that respect, his story is not dissimilar to that of Collingwood's Paul Seedsman. If Hunt is to follow in that player's footsteps, he has also has some good football genes. Apart from his former Demon uncle, Jayden is said to be a descendent of five-time Collingwood premiership player Harold Rumney, who was part of the Magpie era when they won four successive flags from 1927-1930. And his mother plays golf with the mother of another celebrated Brighton Grammarian Jack Watts. It might be a while before we see the raw youngster in Melbourne colours, but Demon fans are a patient lot. We've waited thirty years to see the next coming of Andy Mohr wearing the number 29. Let's hope Melbourne is more successful in Hunt's time at the club.

For the sake of balance, the list of players recruited in Neeld's time was quite impressive but your response to that would no doubt be that he wasn't the recruiting officer so he shouldn't get credit for Clark, Dawes,Viney, Toumpas, Hogan, Kent and those mature age players we picked up last year. As for the blokes you say he shouldn't have gotten rid of, you'll get plenty of debate on players who were variously retiring anyway, washed up, inconsistent, uninterested, lazy and not good enough. The latter applies equally to your above post. Terrible terrible terrible

Boxing Day 2013 marks the 9th anniversary of the death of Melbourne's Troy Broadbridge at Phi Phi Island during the tsunami. We commemorate his passing every year on Troy Broadbridge Day. Troy Broadbridge: No. 20 Born: 5 October 1980 Recruited from Port Adelaide Magpies (SANFL) Died: 26 December 2004, Thailand Playing Career: Debut Round 8, May 20, 2001, Melbourne vs. Essendon, at Melbourne Cricket Ground Team: Melbourne (2001-2004) 40 games, 2 goals Melbourne Most Improved Player 2001 Sandringham Premiership Team 2000 & 2004 Looking forward to your tributes.

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According to the club website there are two more training sessions to go before the end of year break up and both are at Gosch's Paddock, the first tomorrow and then the break-up on Friday. Please let's not stray from the topic and in particular, no derailing as we've seen with the last two training threads. Reports are most welcome. Thank you.

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I only included the Hawthorn match because the practice match games on that weekend were just released and they are not apart of the NAB Cup challenge.http://afl.com.au/fixture/nab-challenge

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-12-16/wa-preseason-feast 2014 PRACTICE MATCH FIXTURE Sunday, March 2 Gold Coast v Collingwood at Metricon Stadium, time tbc Thursday, March 6 West Coast v Fremantle at Patersons Stadium, time tbc Friday, March 7 Geelong v North Melbourne at Simonds Stadium, time tbc Greater Western Sydney v Adelaide at Blacktown, time tbc Carlton v Western Bulldogs at Visy Park, time tbc Richmond v Essendon at Punt Road Oval or Craigieburn, time tbc Saturday, March 8 Port Adelaide v St Kilda at Alberton Oval, time tbc Melbourne v Hawthorn at Casey Fields, time tbc Brisbane Lions v Sydney Swans at Burpengary, time tbc

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The list of players who are now under the watchful eye of new Melbourne coach Paul Roos is a far different one to that which began two years ago under Mark Neeld in late 2011. The list had already been pared to make way for the new regime but since then, more than half of the list has been turned over - a testament to the necessity of changing a list that performed so poorly in a turbulent period for the Melbourne Football Club. The following players have departed over the past two trade/free agency/draft periods:- ► End of 2012: Matthew Bate (delisted) Jamie Bennell (West Coast) Lucas Cook (delisted) Brad Green (retired) Jordan Gysberts (North Melbourne) Liam Jurrah (delisted) Kelvin Lawrence ® (delisted) Stefan Martin (Brisbane) Brent Moloney (Brisbane FA) Cale Morton (West Coast) Ricky Petterd (Richmond) Jared Rivers (Geelong FA) Jai Sheahan L® (delisted) Leigh Williams ® (delisted). ► End of 2013: Tom Couch ® (delisted) Aaron Davey (retired) Troy Davis (delisted) Tom Gillies (delisted) Joel Macdonald (retired) James Magner ® (delisted) David Rodan (retired) James Sellar (delisted) Nathan Stark ® (delisted) Colin Sylvia (Fremantle FA) Rory Taggert (delisted) Josh Tynan (delisted). Twelve months ago, in CHANGES 2012 - EMINENTLY COACHABLE (pardon the headline), I described the frenetic period of trading and drafting at the end of 2012 that left many breathless in its scope but produced what was without doubt the most disappointing season in the memory of the majority of Demon fans. The club's playing lists for 2013 were:- PRIMARY LIST: Rohan Bail Dominic Barry Sam Blease Shannon Byrnes Mitch Clark Aaron Davey Troy Davis Chris Dawes Lynden Dunn Michael Evans Jack Fitzpatrick James Frawley Colin Garland Max Gawn Tom Gillies Jack Grimes Jeremy Howe Mark Jamar Neville Jetta Matt Jones Nathan Jones Dean Kent Joel Macdonald Tom McDonald Jordie McKenzie Dan Nicholson Cameron Pedersen David Rodan James Sellar Jake Spencer James Strauss Colin Sylvia Rory Taggert Luke Tapscott Dean Terlich Jimmy Toumpas Jack Trengove Josh Tynan Jack Viney Jack Watts ROOKIE LIST: Mitch Clisby Tom Couch James Magner Nathan Stark The club also had Jesse Hogan in reserve from the GWS Minidraft but he could not play AFL during 2013 and was restricted to NAB Cup games and VFL at Casey where he was best and fairest winner. It was always known that the task of replenishing the list was fraught with difficulty as the club jettisoned fifteen players from the previous year. The recruits included a blend of young, mature age and old and while the jury will remain out for some time, there are good signs for the future about many of the club's new breed of 2003. The disappointments may have been in some of the recycled players but when you turn over 14 players in one season, these things not only happen but are magnified when the team performs so poorly. In September, the Demons were boosted by the appointment of senior coach Paul Roos and, together with the club's new national recruiting manager Jason Taylor and his team, they embarked on the task of rebuilding the club's midfield, acknowledged as the most ineffective in the competition and the source of much of its pain and suffering over the past seven years. The trade and free agency period gave the club five new midfielders as covered here, here, here, here, here, here and here. Even before the recent national and rookie drafts the club's list had taken on a much improved look with Dom Tyson, Bernie Vince, Daniel Cross, Viv Michie and Aidan Reilly coming on board - adding size, strength, skill, depth and and a mix of experience. The drafts introduced the following players and once again there was a preponderance of midfielders:- Alexis Georgiou ® Norwood SA 1/1/90 H: 187cm W: 88kg Widely considered the best shut down Fullback in the SANFL Georgiou was instrumental in leading the best defence the comp to the 2012 Premiership. Georgiou will again be the Vice Captain to Kieran McGuinness for the 2013 season NorwoodFC website James Harmes ® Dandenong Stingrays 5/10/95 H: 185cm W: 78kg James developed this year as an inside/outside midfielder who competes hard but his lack of speed might hold him up a little bit. He's got a good vertical leap, a good engine, neat skills but just has to sharpen up in a couple of areas to knock the rough edges off." - Dandenong coach Graeme Yeats [inside Football] Jayden Hunt Brighton Grammar 3/4/95 H: 187cm W: 76kg Hunt is from Brighton Grammar. He played in the APS v AGS representative match. Hunt is a quick midfielder/half-back. He is a good kick both sides - MFC bio Jay Kennedy-Harris Oakleigh Chargers 21/3/95 H: 173cm W: 68kg "He took on a joint-leadership role this year with Will Maginness and he's acquitted himself really well. He only played 12 games due to Vic Metro duties and came second in our best and fairest. Last year he was a genuine small toward close to goal but he pushed up as a high half-forward this year and sometimes as an extra midfielder and provide some good leg speed and run and carry. He's got a great skill set; he's brave and applies good defensive pressure, so there is a role for him at the next level." - Oakleigh Region manager Mart Smart [inside Football] Max King ® Murray Bushrangers 24/9/85 H: 200cm W: 89kg "We only saw Max post-Christmas as he was coming in from Wagga. He is really raw in terms of the time he has spent In a good system, but in terms of his skills - his hands, his ruckwork, the impact he can have as a tall forward, his skills, are all terrific. Where he needs to work is his body size, and his fitness and conditioning. He improved vastly throughout the season and at 200cm he's got some things to offer that others don't" - Murray region manager Andrew Carson [inside Football] Christian Salem Sandringham Dragons 15/7/95 H: 183cm W: 81kg "He's one of the excitement packets who can play just about anywhere and even showed that he can play as an inside midfielder after some time in a full-time program. He's been played predominantly outside as people have wanted to make full use of his elite kicking, but he seems to have handled the microscope pretty well he revels on playing on a big stage and when the chips are down he is the one to really lift. He should go pretty early, we would think" - Sandringham region manager Ryan OConnor [inside Football] [Neville Jetta was delisted and later selected in the rookie draft] Salem and Kennedy-Harris are highly rated, Hunt is the smokey plucked out of Brighton Grammar, Harmes a Melbourne supporting mid, King a tall project ruckman and Georgiou a mature, medium-sized defender who might be ugly in looks and kicking style by is regarded as a highly effective stopper. When you add Jesse Hogan the class of 18 year olds on the list is highly impressive. Taylor was pleased with the overall outcome and told melbournefc.com.au - The playing lists for 2014 are:-PRIMARY LIST: Rohan Bail Dominic Barry Sam Blease Shannon Byrnes Mitch Clark Mitch Clisby Daniel Cross Chris Dawes Lynden Dunn Michael Evans Jack Fitzpatrick James Frawley Colin Garland Max Gawn Jack Grimes Jesse Hogan Jeremy Howe Jayden Hunt Mark Jamar Matt Jones Nathan Jones Jay Kennedy-Harris Dean Kent Tom McDonald Jordie McKenzie Viv Michie Dan Nicholson Cameron Pedersen Aidan Reilly Christian Salem Jake Spencer James Strauss Luke Tapscott Dean Terlich Jimmy Toumpas Jack Trengove Dominic Tyson Bernie Vince Jack Viney Jack Watts ROOKIE LIST: Alexis Georgiou James Harmes Neville Jetta Max King INTERNATIONAL ROOKIE LIST Maia Westrupp

The list of players who are now under the watchful eye of new Melbourne coach Paul Roos is a far different one to that which began two years ago under Mark Neeld in late 2011. The list had already been pared to make way for the new regime but since then, more than half of the list has been turned over - a testament to the necessity of changing a list that performed so poorly in a turbulent period for the Melbourne Football Club. The following players have departed over the past two trade/free agency/draft periods:- ► End of 2012: Matthew Bate (delisted) Jamie Bennell (West Coast) Lucas Cook (delisted) Brad Green (retired) Jordan Gysberts (North Melbourne) Liam Jurrah (delisted) Kelvin Lawrence ® (delisted) Stefan Martin (Brisbane) Brent Moloney (Brisbane FA) Cale Morton (West Coast) Ricky Petterd (Richmond) Jared Rivers (Geelong FA) Jai Sheahan L® (delisted) Leigh Williams ® (delisted). ► End of 2013: Tom Couch ® (delisted) Aaron Davey (retired) Troy Davis (delisted) Tom Gillies (delisted) Joel Macdonald (retired) James Magner ® (delisted) David Rodan (retired) James Sellar (delisted) Nathan Stark ® (delisted) Colin Sylvia (Fremantle FA) Rory Taggert (delisted) Josh Tynan (delisted). Twelve months ago, in CHANGES 2012 - EMINENTLY COACHABLE (pardon the headline), I described the frenetic period of trading and drafting at the end of 2012 that left many breathless in its scope but produced what was without doubt the most disappointing season in the memory of the majority of Demon fans. The club's playing lists for 2013 were:- PRIMARY LIST: Rohan Bail Dominic Barry Sam Blease Shannon Byrnes Mitch Clark Aaron Davey Troy Davis Chris Dawes Lynden Dunn Michael Evans Jack Fitzpatrick James Frawley Colin Garland Max Gawn Tom Gillies Jack Grimes Jeremy Howe Mark Jamar Neville Jetta Matt Jones Nathan Jones Dean Kent Joel Macdonald Tom McDonald Jordie McKenzie Dan Nicholson Cameron Pedersen David Rodan James Sellar Jake Spencer James Strauss Colin Sylvia Rory Taggert Luke Tapscott Dean Terlich Jimmy Toumpas Jack Trengove Josh Tynan Jack Viney Jack Watts ROOKIE LIST: Mitch Clisby Tom Couch James Magner Nathan Stark The club also had Jesse Hogan in reserve from the GWS Minidraft but he could not play AFL during 2013 and was restricted to NAB Cup games and VFL at Casey where he was best and fairest winner. It was always known that the task of replenishing the list was fraught with difficulty as the club jettisoned fifteen players from the previous year. The recruits included a blend of young, mature age and old and while the jury will remain out for some time, there are good signs for the future about many of the club's new breed of 2003. The disappointments may have been in some of the recycled players but when you turn over 14 players in one season, these things not only happen but are magnified when the team performs so poorly. In September, the Demons were boosted by the appointment of senior coach Paul Roos and, together with the club's new national recruiting manager Jason Taylor and his team, they embarked on the task of rebuilding the club's midfield, acknowledged as the most ineffective in the competition and the source of much of its pain and suffering over the past seven years. The trade and free agency period gave the club five new midfielders as covered here, here, here, here, here, here and here. Even before the recent national and rookie drafts the club's list had taken on a much improved look with Dom Tyson, Bernie Vince, Daniel Cross, Viv Michie and Aidan Reilly coming on board - adding size, strength, skill, depth and and a mix of experience. The drafts introduced the following players and once again there was a preponderance of midfielders:- Alexis Georgiou ® Norwood SA 1/1/90 H: 187cm W: 88kg Widely considered the best shut down Fullback in the SANFL Georgiou was instrumental in leading the best defence the comp to the 2012 Premiership. Georgiou will again be the Vice Captain to Kieran McGuinness for the 2013 season NorwoodFC website James Harmes ® Dandenong Stingrays 5/10/95 H: 185cm W: 78kg James developed this year as an inside/outside midfielder who competes hard but his lack of speed might hold him up a little bit. He's got a good vertical leap, a good engine, neat skills but just has to sharpen up in a couple of areas to knock the rough edges off." - Dandenong coach Graeme Yeats [inside Football] Jayden Hunt Brighton Grammar 3/4/95 H: 187cm W: 76kg Hunt is from Brighton Grammar. He played in the APS v AGS representative match. Hunt is a quick midfielder/half-back. He is a good kick both sides - MFC bio Jay Kennedy-Harris Oakleigh Chargers 21/3/95 H: 173cm W: 68kg "He took on a joint-leadership role this year with Will Maginness and he's acquitted himself really well. He only played 12 games due to Vic Metro duties and came second in our best and fairest. Last year he was a genuine small toward close to goal but he pushed up as a high half-forward this year and sometimes as an extra midfielder and provide some good leg speed and run and carry. He's got a great skill set; he's brave and applies good defensive pressure, so there is a role for him at the next level." - Oakleigh Region manager Mart Smart [inside Football] Max King ® Murray Bushrangers 24/9/85 H: 200cm W: 89kg "We only saw Max post-Christmas as he was coming in from Wagga. He is really raw in terms of the time he has spent In a good system, but in terms of his skills - his hands, his ruckwork, the impact he can have as a tall forward, his skills, are all terrific. Where he needs to work is his body size, and his fitness and conditioning. He improved vastly throughout the season and at 200cm he's got some things to offer that others don't" - Murray region manager Andrew Carson [inside Football] Christian Salem Sandringham Dragons 15/7/95 H: 183cm W: 81kg "He's one of the excitement packets who can play just about anywhere and even showed that he can play as an inside midfielder after some time in a full-time program. He's been played predominantly outside as people have wanted to make full use of his elite kicking, but he seems to have handled the microscope pretty well he revels on playing on a big stage and when the chips are down he is the one to really lift. He should go pretty early, we would think" - Sandringham region manager Ryan OConnor [inside Football] [Neville Jetta was delisted and later selected in the rookie draft] Salem and Kennedy-Harris are highly rated, Hunt is the smokey plucked out of Brighton Grammar, Harmes a Melbourne supporting mid, King a tall project ruckman and Georgiou a mature, medium-sized defender who might be ugly in looks and kicking style by is regarded as a highly effective stopper. When you add Jesse Hogan the class of 18 year olds on the list is highly impressive. Taylor was pleased with the overall outcome and told melbournefc.com.au - The playing lists for 2014 are:-PRIMARY LIST: Rohan Bail Dominic Barry Sam Blease Shannon Byrnes Mitch Clark Mitch Clisby Daniel Cross Chris Dawes Lynden Dunn Michael Evans Jack Fitzpatrick James Frawley Colin Garland Max Gawn Jack Grimes Jesse Hogan Jeremy Howe Jayden Hunt Mark Jamar Matt Jones Nathan Jones Jay Kennedy-Harris Dean Kent Tom McDonald Jordie McKenzie Viv Michie Dan Nicholson Cameron Pedersen Aidan Reilly Christian Salem Jake Spencer James Strauss Luke Tapscott Dean Terlich Jimmy Toumpas Jack Trengove Dominic Tyson Bernie Vince Jack Viney Jack Watts ROOKIE LIST: Alexis Georgiou James Harmes Neville Jetta Max King INTERNATIONAL ROOKIE LIST Maia Westrupp

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Dons' hierarchy hasn't learnt lessons of sports scandals Ain't that the truth?

I came in here ready to joke that it's funny that our development coach has the same name as the guy from 90210. Now I wish I hadn't clicked to open the thread.

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WJ continues his search for 1964 ... A HIGHWAY OF DEMONS by Whispering Jack CHAPTER ELEVEN - FOUR STRONG WINDS I stood on the deck of the Tardis, stargazing. The golden sun in the distant horizon was shrouded inside a must of thousands of brightly lit particles of space dust that sparkled like fireflies. Somewhere deep inside the haze was our destination, the blue green planet of my birth. I was coming home at last, the Doctor at one side, K9 at the other and my good friend the Brigadier labouriously practicing his putting on the bridge below. Our final tour had taken us close to Titan, Saturn's great moon which the Doctor said had an atmosphere and was inhabited by exotic life forms. He loved his native Gallifrey but Saturn, with its rings and its hundred or so moons and especially the largest one, which was dedicated to the god of time, held a special place in the heart of every timelord. My thoughts were full of anticipation for news from home. I wanted to see my family and friends and to learn of the fate of my beloved football team, the Demons, who were due to confront the dreaded Magpies on the very afternoon that the Doctor had plucked me away to embark on our incredible journey. But now the Dalek armies were defeated, Davros had perished and the deadly creatures of his manufacture were consigned to a time and place from which there was no escape. With our mission accomplished, I was homeward bound. Or so I thought. I learned long ago that I should never take anything for granted whilst in the Doctor's company but I felt certain that nothing could prevent my return this time. As usual, I was wrong. The serenity of the moment was interrupted when we took what felt like a gentle bump but it soon became a rattle that grew in intensity so before long, panic set in and the Tardis began to shake in violent convulsion. The Doctor, who had been staring closely in the direction of the sun through his sonic eyeglass, remained calm. His deft hands were playing with the instruments on the panel in front of him like a piano. Miraculously, he managed to avoid crashing into the debris that careered directly into our path through the roaring cosmic wind. There was a crash; the Tardis plunged and we found ourselves in a different time and place, safely away from the storm that had threatened to destroy our ship and all who travelled inside her. We had landed on the banks of a wide river. A distant ferry boat was nearing the other side and in the foreground, a sailor and a pretty young girl laughed playfully as they waded knee deep in the gentle waters that lapped by the shoreline. It had been a close call but what the Doctor told me next, provided more cause for concern. "Just as the storm hit us, I was looking inward past the red planet searching for a sight of the earth but ... " "But what?" " ... but, it wasn't there." "Four strong winds that blow lonely, Seven seas that run high, All these things that don't change, Come what may. But our good times are all gone, And I'm bound for moving on. I'll look for you if I'm ever back this way." ~ Four Strong Winds [by Ian Tyson] To my surprise, the Doctor approached the sailor with who he appeared familiar. They spoke briefly, heads were nodded and he walked back in my direction waving at the young couple and gesturing with hands that told me it was time to return to the Tardis. Our ship had been damaged in the cosmic storm and we were low on fuel. There was work to be done. We walked along the sea strand under darkening skies. The breeze stiffened and it soon began to whistle as if in time with the pealing of the Sunday morning bells of Our Lady of St. Nicholas, the church of seafarers and the tallest building in Liverpool at this particular time. I had no idea why but I knew we had landed by the Mersey River and the year was 1837. I waited until we were back inside the Tardis before I asked about the sailor. I discovered he was a young American who had gone to sea and had landed in the port of Liverpool aged only 18. His name was Herman Melville and one day he would become a great writer. The Doctor had given him some strange advice. "Just make sure that the whale wins the battle and prevails in the end." That was all the Doctor told me before he took to the deck and with the flick of a red button, the Tardis lurched and moved us back 173 years to the future. We were still in Liverpool but the surrounding buildings were new and modern. We saw wedding cars, a bride alighting and, by craning our necks we could watch the wonderful ceremony as it took place. The Doctor motioned in the direction of the father of the groom and told me to seek him out because he had some vital information of interest for me. Then pointing to one of the guests, a middle-aged man who looked vaguely familiar, he warned, "Under no circumstances are you to approach that man or speak to him!" "But why?", I stammered. "Because he's you!" "So fare thee well, my own true love, For when I return, united we will be It's not the leaving of Liverpool that grieves me, But my darling when I think of thee" ~ traditional - The Leaving of Liverpool as sung by The Pogues I felt the crumpled scrap of paper in my coat pocket and wondered how long it had been sitting there. The handwriting, neat and even, was not mine. I was standing on the deck of a cargo ship in the North Atlantic heading in the direction of Greenland. The Tardis was safely stowed away in the ship's hold as the Doctor and K9 worked on its repair. The Brigadier continued to practice his golf. The crystal fuel that was vital in running the engines of the Tardis was mined at our destination. Once it was collected and installed, we would be mobile again, the Doctor could carry out his plan to save the earth and then drop me off outside the ABC television studio in time to watch the grand final. I gazed at the paper handed to me by the father of the groom from the wedding and read its message, "Melbourne 8.16.64 defeated Collingwood 8.12.60" It was dated the 19th September, 1964. The day the earth stood still for me. We were nearing land for I could hear the screeching of the seagulls. The wind was gusting and my mind was on other things because, as my concentration lapsed, I loosened my hold on the scrap of paper. It took flight above the deck and, watching helplessly as it fell into the raging sea below, I noticed the distant silhouette of the tail of a great white whale. "Oh Greenland is a barren land A land that bears no green Where there's ice and snow, and the whalefishes blow And the daylight's seldom seen, brave boys And the daylight's seldom seen" ~ traditional - Greenland Whale Fisheries as sung by The Pogues We followed the railway tracks deep into the mine. Inside the trail widened into an underground labyrinth whose floor extended to reveal an inland lake from which emerged perhaps a dozen reptile-like creatures. Their leader shook heads with the Doctor. They seemed to communicate telepathically. To my relief, things went well and we were soon away with a sackful of green crystals which the Doctor had exchanged for a thin leatherbound volume. Later, as the Doctor fuelled the Tardis, he explained that the creatures were a peaceful branch of a race of Silurians whose mission was to protect the whale species. He had given them a copy of Melville's Moby Dick, the story of Captain Ahab whose one purpose is to seek out Moby Dick, a ferocious, enigmatic white sperm whale, that had previously destroyed his boat and bit off his leg. Ahab's obsession is to take revenge against the whale irrespective of his own safety and that of his crew. Inevitably, the story ends in tragedy. "When I saw the earth exploding, I sensed it was the work of the Silurians angry at the failure of its inhabitants to protect species such as the whale. The book and some words of comfort conveyed to their leader elicited a promise from their leader not to destroy the planet." I was relieved to hear this but there remained a look of concern on the Doctor's face. There was more. "I've just received a message of warning from the Silurian leader. He read the book and says that it contains a coded message that foretells of an assassination about to take place in Dallas, Texas. The world is full of men like Captain Ahab who are driven by obsession and revenge. They operate in politics, in religion, business and even in sports clubs like your Melbourne Football Club. We can't stop the murder but we have it within our power to do things to change history and make the world a better place. As soon as we're fuelled up, we're on our way to 22nd November, 1963." "But, er ... what about the grand final?" "Oh, that can wait. And anyway ... if we don't do what we have to do in Texas, then Neil Crompton will never get to kick the goal that wins you the '64 flag and Paul Roos might well not agree to coach your team to what will ultimately become its next golden era of 2014 and beyond. We have it in our power to change not only history but also the future. Please trust me on this one." I shook my head and walked outside where I was taken by the stillness in the air. "Oh the time will come up When the winds will stop And the breeze will cease to be breathin'. Like the stillness in the wind 'Fore the hurricane begins, The hour when the ship comes in." ~ The Hour When The Ship Comes [by Bob Dylan] TO BE TO BE CONTINUED Fifty years ago, the world was shaken by the assassination of American President John F Kennedy during a motorcade through the Texan city of Dallas. The event overshadowed the debut of the BBC series Dr. Who which occurred in the same week. The American author Herman Melville landed in Liverpool in 1837 and was inspired by his seafaring experiences to write several novels including the classic Moby Dick. There is a theory that the novel foretells of a number of assassinations including that of JFK. Bob Dylan's Farewell from the Bootleg Series: Volume 9 was based on The Leaving of Liverpool Ian Tyson who wrote Four Strong Winds is not believed to be related to Dominic Tyson who was recruited to the Melbourne Football Club when I started writing this chapter. John Fitzgerald Kennedy is probably not related to Jay Kennedy-Harris who was recruited to the Melbourne Football Club when I finished writing this chapter. You can celebrate 50 years of Dr. Who tomorrow night on ABC1 7.31pm Dr Who: The Day of the Doctor 8.50pm An Adventure in Space and Time

WJ continues his search for 1964 ... A HIGHWAY OF DEMONS by Whispering Jack CHAPTER ELEVEN - FOUR STRONG WINDS I stood on the deck of the Tardis, stargazing. The golden sun in the distant horizon was shrouded inside a must of thousands of brightly lit particles of space dust that sparkled like fireflies. Somewhere deep inside the haze was our destination, the blue green planet of my birth. I was coming home at last, the Doctor at one side, K9 at the other and my good friend the Brigadier labouriously practicing his putting on the bridge below. Our final tour had taken us close to Titan, Saturn's great moon which the Doctor said had an atmosphere and was inhabited by exotic life forms. He loved his native Gallifrey but Saturn, with its rings and its hundred or so moons and especially the largest one, which was dedicated to the god of time, held a special place in the heart of every timelord. My thoughts were full of anticipation for news from home. I wanted to see my family and friends and to learn of the fate of my beloved football team, the Demons, who were due to confront the dreaded Magpies on the very afternoon that the Doctor had plucked me away to embark on our incredible journey. But now the Dalek armies were defeated, Davros had perished and the deadly creatures of his manufacture were consigned to a time and place from which there was no escape. With our mission accomplished, I was homeward bound. Or so I thought. I learned long ago that I should never take anything for granted whilst in the Doctor's company but I felt certain that nothing could prevent my return this time. As usual, I was wrong. The serenity of the moment was interrupted when we took what felt like a gentle bump but it soon became a rattle that grew in intensity so before long, panic set in and the Tardis began to shake in violent convulsion. The Doctor, who had been staring closely in the direction of the sun through his sonic eyeglass, remained calm. His deft hands were playing with the instruments on the panel in front of him like a piano. Miraculously, he managed to avoid crashing into the debris that careered directly into our path through the roaring cosmic wind. There was a crash; the Tardis plunged and we found ourselves in a different time and place, safely away from the storm that had threatened to destroy our ship and all who travelled inside her. We had landed on the banks of a wide river. A distant ferry boat was nearing the other side and in the foreground, a sailor and a pretty young girl laughed playfully as they waded knee deep in the gentle waters that lapped by the shoreline. It had been a close call but what the Doctor told me next, provided more cause for concern. "Just as the storm hit us, I was looking inward past the red planet searching for a sight of the earth but ... " "But what?" " ... but, it wasn't there." "Four strong winds that blow lonely, Seven seas that run high, All these things that don't change, Come what may. But our good times are all gone, And I'm bound for moving on. I'll look for you if I'm ever back this way." ~ Four Strong Winds [by Ian Tyson] To my surprise, the Doctor approached the sailor with who he appeared familiar. They spoke briefly, heads were nodded and he walked back in my direction waving at the young couple and gesturing with hands that told me it was time to return to the Tardis. Our ship had been damaged in the cosmic storm and we were low on fuel. There was work to be done. We walked along the sea strand under darkening skies. The breeze stiffened and it soon began to whistle as if in time with the pealing of the Sunday morning bells of Our Lady of St. Nicholas, the church of seafarers and the tallest building in Liverpool at this particular time. I had no idea why but I knew we had landed by the Mersey River and the year was 1837. I waited until we were back inside the Tardis before I asked about the sailor. I discovered he was a young American who had gone to sea and had landed in the port of Liverpool aged only 18. His name was Herman Melville and one day he would become a great writer. The Doctor had given him some strange advice. "Just make sure that the whale wins the battle and prevails in the end." That was all the Doctor told me before he took to the deck and with the flick of a red button, the Tardis lurched and moved us back 173 years to the future. We were still in Liverpool but the surrounding buildings were new and modern. We saw wedding cars, a bride alighting and, by craning our necks we could watch the wonderful ceremony as it took place. The Doctor motioned in the direction of the father of the groom and told me to seek him out because he had some vital information of interest for me. Then pointing to one of the guests, a middle-aged man who looked vaguely familiar, he warned, "Under no circumstances are you to approach that man or speak to him!" "But why?", I stammered. "Because he's you!" "So fare thee well, my own true love, For when I return, united we will be It's not the leaving of Liverpool that grieves me, But my darling when I think of thee" ~ traditional - The Leaving of Liverpool as sung by The Pogues I felt the crumpled scrap of paper in my coat pocket and wondered how long it had been sitting there. The handwriting, neat and even, was not mine. I was standing on the deck of a cargo ship in the North Atlantic heading in the direction of Greenland. The Tardis was safely stowed away in the ship's hold as the Doctor and K9 worked on its repair. The Brigadier continued to practice his golf. The crystal fuel that was vital in running the engines of the Tardis was mined at our destination. Once it was collected and installed, we would be mobile again, the Doctor could carry out his plan to save the earth and then drop me off outside the ABC television studio in time to watch the grand final. I gazed at the paper handed to me by the father of the groom from the wedding and read its message, "Melbourne 8.16.64 defeated Collingwood 8.12.60" It was dated the 19th September, 1964. The day the earth stood still for me. We were nearing land for I could hear the screeching of the seagulls. The wind was gusting and my mind was on other things because, as my concentration lapsed, I loosened my hold on the scrap of paper. It took flight above the deck and, watching helplessly as it fell into the raging sea below, I noticed the distant silhouette of the tail of a great white whale. "Oh Greenland is a barren land A land that bears no green Where there's ice and snow, and the whalefishes blow And the daylight's seldom seen, brave boys And the daylight's seldom seen" ~ traditional - Greenland Whale Fisheries as sung by The Pogues We followed the railway tracks deep into the mine. Inside the trail widened into an underground labyrinth whose floor extended to reveal an inland lake from which emerged perhaps a dozen reptile-like creatures. Their leader shook heads with the Doctor. They seemed to communicate telepathically. To my relief, things went well and we were soon away with a sackful of green crystals which the Doctor had exchanged for a thin leatherbound volume. Later, as the Doctor fuelled the Tardis, he explained that the creatures were a peaceful branch of a race of Silurians whose mission was to protect the whale species. He had given them a copy of Melville's Moby Dick, the story of Captain Ahab whose one purpose is to seek out Moby Dick, a ferocious, enigmatic white sperm whale, that had previously destroyed his boat and bit off his leg. Ahab's obsession is to take revenge against the whale irrespective of his own safety and that of his crew. Inevitably, the story ends in tragedy. "When I saw the earth exploding, I sensed it was the work of the Silurians angry at the failure of its inhabitants to protect species such as the whale. The book and some words of comfort conveyed to their leader elicited a promise from their leader not to destroy the planet." I was relieved to hear this but there remained a look of concern on the Doctor's face. There was more. "I've just received a message of warning from the Silurian leader. He read the book and says that it contains a coded message that foretells of an assassination about to take place in Dallas, Texas. The world is full of men like Captain Ahab who are driven by obsession and revenge. They operate in politics, in religion, business and even in sports clubs like your Melbourne Football Club. We can't stop the murder but we have it within our power to do things to change history and make the world a better place. As soon as we're fuelled up, we're on our way to 22nd November, 1963." "But, er ... what about the grand final?" "Oh, that can wait. And anyway ... if we don't do what we have to do in Texas, then Neil Crompton will never get to kick the goal that wins you the '64 flag and Paul Roos might well not agree to coach your team to what will ultimately become its next golden era of 2014 and beyond. We have it in our power to change not only history but also the future. Please trust me on this one." I shook my head and walked outside where I was taken by the stillness in the air. "Oh the time will come up When the winds will stop And the breeze will cease to be breathin'. Like the stillness in the wind 'Fore the hurricane begins, The hour when the ship comes in." ~ The Hour When The Ship Comes [by Bob Dylan] TO BE TO BE CONTINUED Fifty years ago, the world was shaken by the assassination of American President John F Kennedy during a motorcade through the Texan city of Dallas. The event overshadowed the debut of the BBC series Dr. Who which occurred in the same week. The American author Herman Melville landed in Liverpool in 1837 and was inspired by his seafaring experiences to write several novels including the classic Moby Dick. There is a theory that the novel foretells of a number of assassinations including that of JFK. Bob Dylan's Farewell from the Bootleg Series: Volume 9 was based on The Leaving of Liverpool Ian Tyson who wrote Four Strong Winds is not believed to be related to Dominic Tyson who was recruited to the Melbourne Football Club when I started writing this chapter. John Fitzgerald Kennedy is probably not related to Jay Kennedy-Harris who was recruited to the Melbourne Football Club when I finished writing this chapter. You can celebrate 50 years of Dr. Who tomorrow night on ABC1 7.31pm Dr Who: The Day of the Doctor 8.50pm An Adventure in Space and Time

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If you use Chrome or Firefox that issue will probably be resolved. You should not be using IE under any circumstances unless your workplace requires it and in that case the people responsible for your IT should be fired. end mini rant.

I believe there is a new version of the software available now. Edit: Just re-read your post and see that you already know that.

Also a big thanks must go to Nasher for working through the issues we had last night. At one point we had over 1,300 people on the site at once.