I love a good flame but why should I make it easy?

I don't believe that he's the best player we've had since '87, in fact I'd rate G.Lyon, T.Viney, J.Stynes, A.Jakovich and J.White higher because of their ability to dominate their respective positions far better than Neitz.

In 2007 due to his injuries and age Neitz was virtually a liability to the team, and frankly I'm surprised you didn't pick this up, I thought you knew your footy better than that. Of his 15 games only a third of them did he manage to kick 3 goals and only once did he kick more, 4 in round 9 against the roos. It was actually embarrasing watching him hobble and limp his way to 300 games.

why don't you find something worthwhile to do with your time instead of criticise the best player on our list. I'm sorry but you say Neita has not dominated his position as much as Lyon, Viney White etc. Are you forgetting the 2000 year when he led us to a grand final, kicked a truckload of goals in the second half of the season - If i remember correctly there was a period of about 3 months where he was regularly kicking between 3-6 goals. Not to mention his fine game against St Kilda last year when he kicked 8 goals - 5 of which came from outside 50. or to mention his coleman. And i'm just touching the surface here. Neitz is totally and unfairly bagged out because he isn't an ablett or locket or dunstall sure those players were better but that doesn't detract from Neitz who should be judged on his own merit. I loved Lyon but he was not consistent and look how he hobbled through injury later in his career. and Stynes well he had some real great moments but geez your bagging out Neita in the twilight of his career-I whitnessed Stynes get booed by demons supporters when he used to interchange with Whitey such was the lack of impact he had in his last years. Jeff white has hardly dominated his position recently and how long did Jakovich last?????!!!!!!!!

And lets touch on Neitz 'supposedly' being a liability to the team. Not only did he turn the tide and save us against Adelaide with a 60m goal from the boundary in the dying stages he played a pivotal role in the North Melbourne comeback which we nearly won. And even the first round of the season where we saw the dees play some shocking footy he took some ripper contested marks followed by goals against St Kilda. And you talk about embarrasment watching Neitz try and try again to play through adversity and breaking down for his team you tell me a better way to inspire your team mates. Obviously you do not have a footy brain, have never played footy and know nothing about the game to write what you do. There is no doubt that Neitz has a bigger heart than almost any other player in the AFL and the fact that you simply judge him on his stats for the year is a big mistake by you. Lucky your stupid and dumbfounded opinion means nothing to the rest of us. Stop bagging our club, players etc and howz about you offer something positive and support it. No doubt your not a mfc member.

why don't you find something worthwhile to do with your time instead of criticise the best player on our list. I'm sorry but you say Neita has not dominated his position as much as Lyon, Viney White etc. Are you forgetting the 2000 year when he led us to a grand final, kicked a truckload of goals in the second half of the season - If i remember correctly there was a period of about 3 months where he was regularly kicking between 3-6 goals. Not to mention his fine game against St Kilda last year when he kicked 8 goals - 5 of which came from outside 50. or to mention his coleman. And i'm just touching the surface here. Neitz is totally and unfairly bagged out because he isn't an ablett or locket or dunstall sure those players were better but that doesn't detract from Neitz who should be judged on his own merit. I loved Lyon but he was not consistent and look how he hobbled through injury later in his career. and Stynes well he had some real great moments but geez your bagging out Neita in the twilight of his career-I whitnessed Stynes get booed by demons supporters when he used to interchange with Whitey such was the lack of impact he had in his last years. Jeff white has hardly dominated his position recently and how long did Jakovich last?????!!!!!!!!

And lets touch on Neitz 'supposedly' being a liability to the team. Not only did he turn the tide and save us against Adelaide with a 60m goal from the boundary in the dying stages he played a pivotal role in the North Melbourne comeback which we nearly won. And even the first round of the season where we saw the dees play some shocking footy he took some ripper contested marks followed by goals against St Kilda. And you talk about embarrasment watching Neitz try and try again to play through adversity and breaking down for his team you tell me a better way to inspire your team mates. Obviously you do not have a footy brain, have never played footy and know nothing about the game to write what you do. There is no doubt that Neitz has a bigger heart than almost any other player in the AFL and the fact that you simply judge him on his stats for the year is a big mistake by you. Lucky your stupid and dumbfounded opinion means nothing to the rest of us. Stop bagging our club, players etc and howz about you offer something positive and support it. No doubt your not a mfc member.

i agree to some extent...neitz has brought so much to this club IMO...consistency to be able to reach 300 games, coleman medal, leadership, great captain, a bag of goals (dont forget he played CHB for a while), two AA's, one of wayne careys toughest oponents, along with merchandise and helping to increase membership sales and crowd size...

why don't you find something worthwhile to do with your time instead of criticise the best player on our list. I'm sorry but you say Neita has not dominated his position as much as Lyon, Viney White etc. Are you forgetting the 2000 year when he led us to a grand final, kicked a truckload of goals in the second half of the season..

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This was about as far as I got, in the second half of 2000 Neitz kicked 20 goals. Now I don't know about you but in my book 20 does not equate to a truckload.

Thanks for helping to prove my theory, quite simply alot of Melbourne fans overrate him. Yes he has been a very good player, but for some reason when Melbourne fans talk about what he's achieved suddenly the story gets embellished to the point of obsession, and dear old maccaz69 here is a perfect example.

Isn't it great to have a captain who can almost win a game for us?

This was about as far as I got, in the second half of 2000 Neitz kicked 20 goals. Now I don't know about you but in my book 20 does not equate to a truckload.

Thanks for helping to prove my theory, quite simply alot of Melbourne fans overrate him. Yes he has been a very good player, but for some reason when Melbourne fans talk about what he's achieved suddenly the story gets embellished to the point of obsession, and dear old maccaz69 here is a perfect example.

Isn't it great to have a captain who can almost win a game for us?

ok I bothered to look it up it was the 2002 season I was thinking about when he kicked 59 goals in the latter half of the season which from memory is when schwarta retired. he kicked bags of 3,5,7,9,2,6,4,4,7,3,2,2,5 consecutively to finish off the year. now that doesn't appear too ordinary to me. He has also kicked 3 or more goals 103 times which considering he played a fair few games down back and at other times shared the forward line with the likes of lyon, schwartz, farmer etc I rate a great achievement. As do I rate the fact he is the 24th highest EVER goalscorer in VFL/AFL history. And when you take into account the games in defence and the fact he has had some severe injuries like broken chin, broken foot etc thats even better.

And if your implying neitz has not won a game for us ur hopelessly lost and disillusioned.

Mainstream demons fans will tell you, like me, that you're just wrong but I won't for the crap you write is amusing at best. i'm not sure if you're suffering from tall poppie syndrome, you're a troll or you just have no idea but leave our captain alone you're not a supporter we want. If you want to be a negative supporter go somewhere else.

And if your implying neitz has not won a game for us ur hopelessly lost and disillusioned.

No I was just quoting yourself.

our team of the century is a sad indictment on MFC over the past 25 years

Anyone watch the Dees merger match replay on Sunday? Was great watching a competitive demons side! Anyway seeing Neita in full flight kicking I think 4 goals in the 1st qtr and then take a ripper contested mark and goal late in the game over 3 defenders followed by another tough goal in the dying stages reminded me of this thread on Neitz missing a spot in the TOTC........wouldn't it be good to deflect all this negative attention we are currently getting by amending the TOTC to include Neita?????? cant believe we can have 3 emergencies and he doesn't even make that......

David Neitz was an awesome player, it was an honour to watch him play.

He be in my best 21 for the MFC anyday of the week.

Absolutely love the guy (both as the captain and a player).