Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted
I don't think any of us should pretend to know the absolute reality of this situation......

And given we are basing our assumptions of Voss's character on this particular video, has it been doctored or altered in any way for media purposes?

We have absolutely no answer to that, and given no-one seems to know where the hell it came from this actuality is not completely out of the question.

As in my opinion there is way too much that we simply don't know. About this or about him :unsure: !!!

Reading your take on this is like wading through treacle. You make it sound complicated when its not.

I have not seen any example of anyone here has pretended to know anything more than what has been made public.

I believe that any assumption we had of Voss' character prior to this incident was extremely positive. No one from our side of the fence saw this coming, or did we? Hence the alarm bells.

The incident was captured on the POW secuirty CCTV. Commercial venues have them. Theres your answer.

The images cannot be doctored. Only footage can be erased. What are you trying to say? If im not mistaken, you infact sound like youre defending Voss?

Provocation or not, his actions were reckless,stupid and irresponsible. There are no excuses. He is very lucky that the outome was no worse. Anyone remember David Hookes?

BTW QC, have you heard of the the KISS principle?

  • Replies 53
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted

David Hookes? While I understand your reference, just who is making what factually happened more complicated that it needs to be?

And for the record you may not agree with my take on things Alan, but please don't condescend to me. I am some ignorant fool :angry:

(and this is unfortunately not the first time you have belittled my comments either).

My opinion it just that, it is not necessarily or absolutely right or wrong, but neither is yours, despite what you seem to think.

And I am certainly not defending Voss for his actions on that night, but I will always try to give people a second chance if they make a mistake, especially in this circumstance since it does appear to be a one-off indecent, and therefore I will not condemn him for life for the horrible happening.

But if you could actually try to understand what I wrote instead of just patronizing it, then you would have read that we have no true idea what actually happened (unless of course you have first hand account of the event) and footage can always be altered if the press want us to see a particular thing.

I don't know if this happened or not. But it is not a complete impossibility.

So therefore instead of totally condemning him, and without further thought just write off every other skill, ability and positive attribute he may have, I believe that we should wait for the eventual outcome of the investigation and proceedings. And if your "simple" answer is the right one, then so be it.

I didn't like what I saw and would never condone violent behavior (having been on the end of it in the very recent and quite distant past for very different reasons) but there is always more to every situation than the simple back and white. That is life, simple would be great, but not always accurate.

And despite what some on here seem think of him now, I am pretty sure that he will still be looked at for the job anyway.

Posted
David Hookes? While I understand your reference, just who is making what factually happened more complicated that it needs to be?

And for the record you may not agree with my take on things Alan, but please don't condescend to me. I am some ignorant fool :angry:

You missed my point. As with the 'Voss & esteemed company' mob attack , Hookesy was involved in an incident not dissimilar. The end result was tragic. It could easily have happened again.

The whole incident was ugly, stupid & cannot be condoned. Voss is particulary disappointing as whilst under scrutiny he publicly stated to being satisfied with his actions. A smug & foolish comment. Put simply, it opens another window into the psyche of someone who has fast become a character of questionable repute.

Anything else said is utter tish.

Posted

In your opinion, and that is not gospel......

And for heavens sake stop making out that anyone who doesn't automatically throw Voss away like used garbage condones what happened that night.

I realise that it makes your stance more appealing if we are seen as sympathetic to violent outbursts.

But that is just ignoring what has been written. No-one here condones what we saw happen.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    TRAINING: Friday 22nd November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force on a scorching morning out at Gosch's Paddock for the final session before the whole squad reunites for the Preseason Training Camp. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS It’s going to be a scorcher today but I’m in the shade at Gosch’s Paddock ready to bring you some observations from the final session before the Preseason Training Camp next week.  Salem, Fritsch & Campbell are already on the track. Still no number on Campbell’s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 2

    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 12

    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #7 Jack Viney

    The tough on baller won his second Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Trophy in a narrow battle with skipper Max Gawn and Alex Neal-Bullen and battled on manfully in the face of a number of injury niggles. Date of Birth: 13 April 1994 Height: 178cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 219 Goals MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 66 Brownlow Medal Votes: 8

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Wednesday 13th November 2024

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers braved the rain and headed down to Gosch's paddock to bring you their observations from the second day of Preseason training for the 1st to 4th Year players. DITCHA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I attended some of the training today. Richo spoke to me and said not to believe what is in the media, as we will good this year. Jefferson and Kentfield looked big and strong.  Petty was doing all the training. Adams looked like he was in rehab.  KE

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...