Michael Tuck, Gary O'Donnell both All Australians both premiership players both played 50 odd reserves games before establishing themselves. Not saying that TMac is in that company, but I'm always wary of writing young blokes off prematurely. His graph seems to be going north at the moment and its sometimes about the 'size of the fight in the dog'.

He was also drafted as a bottom age player, one of the youngest in his draft class, a la Watts.