agreed, hes can lead and mark the ball no worries, but he is worst shot for goal in VFL AFL history,60 goals from 100 games is putrid.

It isnt given he has played alot of football up back and has often scouted the ball outside the F50. And he is far from the worst shot at goal. He's just not an outstanding kick at a goal. He is a limited footballer but in an outmanned forwardline he consistently contests. Its embarrassing watch him work hard and then watching Newton.

It isnt given he has played alot of football up back and has often scouted the ball outside the F50. And he is far from the worst shot at goal. He's just not an outstanding kick at a goal. He is a limited footballer but in an outmanned forwardline he consistently contests. Its embarrassing watch him work hard and then watching Newton.

i would never bag his attack on the footy, hes first class there,but when it comes to shots at goal his head just drops to the ground,and after 100 games you cant see that changing.

Again, I must add a bit here, spoke to Bate and Miller after the Intraclub, both have been all over the forward line in the last couple of years, and Miller before that played all over the place, as already from the article on Bate on the Club website, they are looking forward to actually playing in the same position week in and week out, after Neitz and Robbo went down Miller did that last year and managed to kick a few goals, Bate got four already against Hawthorn, it should be Bate at FF and Miller at CHF and then the rest of pieces will fall into place. Miller needs a crumber working off him, he had Wonna iagainst Hawthorn but he got injuted and then he had a first gamer on Saturday, hopefully we will have a choice of three soon in Wonna/Maric and Jetta.