Posts posted by Dee Zephyr
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Edited by Demon77
5 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:Satutes well too.....Im down so far, what were we looking at in Ascot? Yes i do like the 3 legs occasionally 4.
All the way win, I thought it was paddling there for a while but nothing was gaining ground.
Dainty Tess is needed to salute for my parlay and i also have no.2,4/2,4/F in a tri in the Scenic.
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44 minutes ago, Macca said:
Yeah as soon as Ace High was at the tail of the field you knew it probably couldn't win - 'needed the run' by the looks of it. Global Glamour was run out of a place anyway so I was way off with that trifecta.
Cashed out on 1 of my 2 live multi's (Eurack, Bedford & Bye See) but it could be an even better day if 'Don't Give A Damn' salutes.
Thanks for the heads up on 'Eurack' & 'Bye See' fellas ... reinforcing a 'best bet' seems to be a good addition to our system.
Nice work Macca, cheering for 'Don't Give A Damn'. My last leg is 'Dainty Tess'.
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8 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:
Great. Whats your final Tri combo Macca....? If Ace wins, it will be the first High Chaparral to win over 1200. Would be awesome.
Should be a good race Wadda, a first time for everything.
My sis visiting with her kids saved me a trip to Casey. I can enjoy the rest of the days racing.
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12 minutes ago, Macca said:You need your eyes everywhere following the races D77 ... had standout/best bet written all over it!
And the tri paid 172 with the fav winning in a 6 horse field.
'Fiesta' looked impressive winning the Widden Stakes at Rosehill.
Yes Macca, I didnt even bother to look at Brisbane or Adelaide races. It's quite often trainers take their horses to Adelaide during Victorian carnivals for the simple reason you stated above. Small fields, some say it's "money for jam".
Fiesta landed a few big bets too, I've also seen some big bets go down the drain in these early races.
The TV showed a bet in excess of 23k the win on 'Last Week' in the previous at Caulfield. It looked like the horse went around for practice.
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4 minutes ago, Macca said:
I like both Snitty Kitty & Bedford Wadda
It's too late now but I didn't see 'From Within' as a standout ... will only mention horses from here on in that do standout (like 'Bye See' & 'Don't Give A Damn)
Like your thinking there with those quinella's ... we've got quite an array of choices when we include 'Eurack' and those that you have mentioned. By the looks of it both @Demon77 and myself like Dainty Tess at Ascot later on too (Race 7)
I do like Dainty Tess Macca. At the moment I'm thinking Dainty Tess and Volkoff for first and second in a tri with 5 others for third.
I was looking forward to a session in front of the telly watching some good racing but the young ones all of a sudden want go watch the AFLW game all the way out at Casey. I'm in a spot of bother here.
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14 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:
Restless in the barrier, not his day. I pressed one of those buttons that allows you to miss a parlay leg, so no problem.
Now, i did something Ive never done before, parlayed 2 quinellas....! At Caulfield, R6 Crystal Dreamer and Snitty Kitty, into R7 Willi Willi and Bedford. They seem like standouts, which worries me, but i thought id do it anyway.
Racing.com doesnt have Rosehill?
Good luck with the quinella parlay Wadda. That would be some effort, I'll be cheering for you.
Racing.com have televised Sydney races in the past but doesn't seem like it today according to the listing anyway.
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1 hour ago, Macca said:The topweight (Top Striker) is out as well now ... although it was a 100-1 shot and the other horses won't have to worry about getting around it!
Ace High is still not liked ... 17-1 seems overs even if the trip is a bit short. I had settled on Global Glamour & Goodfella as my 2 to win (in a 2 - 5 - 5 multiple trifecta) but I'm putting Ace High in as the replacement for Goodfella.
Thronum won last Friday night's Australia Stakes starting at 5-1 in a 6 horse field - yet the Trifecta paid $244.
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I've settled on the same combo , I'll have Ace High for first also but I can't decide if it goes with Global Glamour or Addictive Nature. I might have to sleep on it or toss a coin.
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Edited by Demon77
58 minutes ago, Macca said:I've made up my mind as well ...
Best Bet - Rosehill Race 9 No.8 Don't Give A Damn
I'm probably going to multi up our combination 'Each Way' and then have a bit on the combo to win only in a separate bet.
If we only end up with 3 best bets that's ok - we all have the option of adding on to the combo if we so wish.
I like your choice @Demon77 ... as you said, 'Eurack' has put in 3 outstanding efforts for it's 3 runs.
Nice selection Macca. Both horses resuming with "light" weights.
I'll do the same, I've even placed a small amount on a win only multi with the 4 horses you originally short listed for your "Best" at Rosehill.
I'd rather have a couple of dollars on a multi that loses rather than feeling the "Punters lament" if it comes through and not having a dollar on it. Just testing the waters on that one since you have presented it to us. Will do the each way on those 4 as well but the markets don't have place odds currently for a couple of the runners.
Also, Goodfella has been scratched, only 7 going around in the Expressway.
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Edited by Demon77
I've looked at the Caulfield meeting tonight and decided my best bet is at that meeting.
Race 5 No. 12 - Eurack. Odds $3.40
3 runs for 3 wins. All runs so far have been in winter and on soft tracks. I remember watching those runs and being impressed.
First start at Bendigo Maiden 1100m Heavy8 drew barrier 9 of 10 and won by 3.5L. (1:05:96)
Second start at Sandown BM 64 1000m Soft6 drew 15 of 15 and won by 4.25L. (0:58:77)
Third start Sandown 1000m BM 70 Soft5 barrier 9 of 11 and won by 0.2L. (0:57:49)
Barrier 7 shouldn't be a concern as she has sufficient speed to get in the first 3 or 4.
She progressed through the grades nicely and this will be her toughest test to date. Her fitness levels might not be full yet but if you look at her times they are nothing but impressive, keep in mind the soft and heavy tracks. Her latest time is quicker than some of the 1000m races her rivals for Saturdays race have been competing in on good tracks.
The deciding factor to put her as my "Best" was the lightning 33.15 she clicked for the last 600m in her last run. She has a lethal letdown.
Of her upcoming rivals No.3 Hay Bale ran a quicker 32.34 last 600m in a win back in July but that was on a Good3.
No.5 Highland Beat ran a slower 33.39 on a Good3 also in a win back in July.
Even comparing it to the last 600m(33.16) that Snitty Kitty (I think she wins the WJ Adams by the way) ran in her G2 Caulfield Sprint win back in the spring on a Good3 makes me think she might be above average by the time she fully develops.
Looking forward to your "Best" fellas.
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1 hour ago, Macca said:
Looking forward to the race though D77 - the race might paint a bit of a picture for a number of the runners down the track. Being 1200m at WFA opens up a number of future possibilities. The C F Orr Stakes works in a similar manner (more so the upcoming 1600m & 2000m Group races in the Autumn calendar)
It's amazing how sometimes a small field makes a race more intriguing, add Ace High first-up and it becomes even more so. Should be a beauty.
Spot on with the above Macca, we know some horses go well first-up whilst others just go around for a "run" to begin a prep. Planning is key to these big carnivals, needless to say there's a lot of prize money to be won.
Just out of curiosity I visited the Tab app, the 4 horses you narrowed it down to for your best bet.....
Race 1 No.2 ... From Within
Race 5 No.12 ... Kopi Luwak
Race 6 No.9 ..... Bye See
Race 9 No.8 ..... Don't Give a Damn
combined price for an all up multi (win)
$124.67
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17 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:
Yes, im with you D77, wont be far off them i dont think. Hes a High Chapparal and i had a look to see if any of the other prodigies had ever won over 1200. Looks like 1400 by Tivaci in 2012 in The All Aged Stakes is the shortest distance. Doesnt mean he cant set a new record or run a place. Will be interesting. Watch out for Ace high over the Mile to Mile and a half. ...and watch out Winx.
Very interesting Wadda.
I've had a good look at the Expressway and I've determined it's quite a tricky race to find a standout.
Out of the realistic chances according to the market, there are 3 horses with at least 1 start in their current prep.
2- Global Glamour
3- Memes
6- Goodfella
First-up horses that can win(IMO) listed below.
4- Ace High
5-Trapeze Arrist
8- Addictive Nature
I watched some replays of the fresher horses in their previous prep and some current trials but it's hard to gauge against a horse in a prep already.
Case in point, Maccas thoughts on Goodfella. Yes, the horse is in a decent prep at the moment with some short let-ups in between runs, but the last two runs have been very good behind a quality galloper in Pierata.
Im finding it hard to narrow it down to one standout in this race so maybe a trifecta around Ace High could be the ticket.
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Edited by Demon77
25 minutes ago, Macca said:I'm in 2 minds with the Expressway Stakes ... I keep looking at Ace High thinking it will fight it right out to the finish and Goodfella could be flashing home. As a trifecta race - definitely. Best Bet - maybe someone else can see the horse to pick.
I like a few others at Rosehill but again, it's early doors and would like to see all the fixed odds. I'm looking at 1 best bet out of these 4 possible picks ... I'm leaning towards 'Don't Give A Damn. Let me know what you think fellas.
Race 1 No.2 ... From Within
Race 5 No.12 ... Kopi Luwak
Race 6 No.9 ..... Bye See
Race 9 No.8 ..... Don't Give a Damn
All the Rosehill Races - Feb 3rd
The W J Adams Stakes & the Manfred Stakes at Caulfield both have interesting fields.
A little bit of trivia or recent history about the above race.
Shakespearean Lass was the winner of the W J Adams in 2016 and ran second in the same race in 2017.
Not only was she a stablemate of the Zephyr but also out of the same broodmare. She was sold to a stud farm shortly after the 2017 race and let's just say the syndicate were pleasantly surpised with the offer.
Sorry for going slightly off topic, I've only browsed quickly through the fields and the one that stands out at the moment Macca is Kopi Luwak in the 5th.
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18 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:Do we think this race is too short for Ace High? I guess so really...Orr Stakes is looking harder by the day.
May well be short Wadda but it's a quality galloper.
I'm finding the links by Macca quite useful. Ace High had a barrier trial over 900m on the 21st of Jan and finished 5th of 9 by 1.2 lengths.
It states, behind leaders, deeper and held together. It doesn't sound too bad, I might have to try and dig up the replay of that trial.
Trials might not be some people's cup of tea, but they could prove useful if you wanted to follow a horse throughout a preparation.
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Update on Santos.
Randwick barrier trial 29th Jan.
Keep your eye on the widest barrier, yellow jacket.
Dan Zephyr was our summer horse, Santos might be our Autumn horse.
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1 hour ago, Wadda We Sing said:
Tosen Stardom Black Heart Bart Hartnell Mr Sneaky Brave Smash Johannes Vermeer Single Gaze Thronum Humidor The Taj Mahal Global Glamour Lucky Hussler Mighty Boss Theanswermyfriend Dollar For Dollar Burning Front Gailo Chop I Am A Star This is ladbrokes market, theres a few more but i couldnt fit them all in, (pardon the pun). Seems Voodoo Lad has disappeared? Maybe thats why he was 26/1...Black Heart Bart won the race last year. Any early thoughts??Thanks Wadda.
I was prepared to go with Brave Smash, thinking he could redeem himself but the list above is a little different to the market I saw last night.
It looks like they have added some serious horse flesh in the current market.
Neds is currently offering $12 for Brave Smash. I might have to play the waiting game for now and start concentrating on the Expressway Stakes.
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19 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:
Well i went down to the TAB to see if i could get on The Orr Stakes, and it wasnt up. I thought it would have been by now surely? TAB up to their usual shenanigans already?.....one day ill go get a bookie!
You're right Wadda, the odds were up when I had look at the Tab app last night.
I just had a look again and no Orr market in the futures.
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Lol, It's a small tri, Macca mentioned it in an earlier post and he's been very close to the mark with horses at double figure odds.. Just looking for some value in the top 2.