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Wow, well said Caro, someone forward that to the Essendon football club

What do your " Spies " think of Durdin picket?

Essendon Football Club. Knows Drugs have no long term effects - doesn't know what drugs were administered Swears they have no case to answer - doesn't answer show cause notices Administers up to 34 players banned substances - plays the victim

I think the other thing Paul Roos and PJ would do is commit to making the best possible effort to trade the extra pick back into the mix, he has shown an obvious preference to bring in proven talent at every opportunity

Dom Tyson and Jack Viney are going along okay.

I'd jump at Menzel, but he aint leaving carlton

Again, no one is objecting to Stretch coming to us via a third rounder, in fact that's the outcome we are hoping for. fixing the problem is exactly what, Viney, Jones, Tyson, Vince, Cross, Trengove, Pick 3, Pick 4 are going to do, they will get the ball out to the outside mids that we have 1 of, Jack Watts is about the closest thing we have in our current 22, If we need to use our second round pick on Stretch I am certain we will, for the reasons I have detailed, pace, skill, line breaking, desire to play for the dees, All Australian selection, team first mantra, basically being everything our team is lacking. the fact that you either don't see or completely ignore is that our boys need time, Tyson, Viney, Salem, Toumpas, Riley, Michie, all 6 combined have not played 100 games total, they will develop, and as they do our midfield will improve.

I class Nathan Jones as an A grade midfielder.

That has nothing to do with Billy Stretch, that's just defending your view that inside mids are better than outside. we will more than likely add another two class players to the group of Tyson, Viney, Trengove, N.jones, M.jones, Vince, Cross, Toumpas, Salem, Watts, and co, more than anything we just need time, add in as examples: Prestia and Shiel to that group and it looks much better but that has nothing to do with your knocks on Billy Stretch, we have the opportunity to add two inside midfielders to our ranks through the first pick and the frawley compo, our second rounder and third rounder can then be used to add some outside class and pace to balance the list, Billy stretch is an obvious choice as he desperately wants to come to us, is clearly good enough and has some characteristics we desperately lack. So i'll ask again, aside from that he isn't an inside midfielder why is he not worth more than a third round pick? clearly you just want to see 22 inside mids take the field every week.

Because he has probably never even seen the kid play and holds his own ignorant views that even Jimmy Toumpas winning three brownlows in a row couldn't change.

You're just being stupid now, no one has suggested even once using a first round pick, odds are we will have a couple of top 5 picks, I'm sure we will put them to good use. Billys outstanding championships has increased his value significantly, if we manage to get him for a third round pick it will be a steal, I also note you again haven't given a legitimate reason you don't rate him besides that he is an outside midfielder which is an extremely ignorant position to take, Stephen motlop, issac Smith and Mathew Suckling are pretty handy players.

I'd say we'd have to not win another game to have a realistic chance of getting any assistance, we had a powerful argument last year, If they could knock back they will never say yes to anyone.

No I didn't, we are almost certain to lose Mr Frawley in my opinion, meaning we will get a compo pick leaving our second and third rounder. I believe firmly that Billy Stretch is solidly worth our second round pick.

Yet you are not capable of articulating a reason why he is worth only a third round pick, so I put it to you he has speed, something we lack he breaks lines, something we lack he has class, something we really lack he has good skills, something we lack he can win his own ball he has been selected in the All Australian team after being a big part of why South Australia won the nationals over to you picket, why is he only worth a third round pick? ( being an " outside mid" doesn't count as a reason), you either have a legitimate knock on the kids game or you are just a rambling fool who has really no idea what he is talking about.

WJ, do you know where the boundaries are drawn on ASADA's power? I am curious as to how they could have possible acted outside their guidelines?

Noone has suggested using our first pick on Stretch, but you have again failed to answer the question you can't have a team of all inside midfielders and win a premiership in my opinion, Gary Ablett was far more of an outside player and then developed an inside game to compliment his outside ability, I'm sure our first two picks will be put towards ball winning midfielders, not exclusive inside midfielders, but I want to know the knock on Stretch that you have, not being an inside mid is not a reason to say a midfielder who has been selected as All Australian and had a fantastic National championships, despite your " spies " saying he is no good, is not worth anymore than a third round pick. And I agree, Toumpas hasn't set the world on fire but you write him off as a total failure after a season and a half, Blease, Tapscott, Strauss and Spencer have struggled but the club has given them 5-6 years, Toumpas was a higher investment than any of them and i'm sure the club will understand that he may take time.

Yeah that's cool picket but you didn't answer the question, we get he isn't an inside mid, and you have a poster of Ollie wines on your wall But I asked besides the fact he is an outside mid do you have a knock on his game? You claim hes just worth a thir rounder, why?

That's what im thinking BB, surely ASADA would have a very clear understanding of what they can do and would be extremely careful not to let a fish this big get off the hook so to speak I find it hard to believe conducting a joint investigation with the relevant sporting organisation would be outside the powers of ASADA, I think alot of it is that the bombers are simply desperate,to the point where their innocence and integrity is no longer a priority

BD, are there clear guidelines as to what point the investigation becomes unlawful

The players are not immune from critics, we are a bottom 4 side for a reason

It really doesnt look a great draft in my opinion but the key position players at the top end add trade value to the picks

To be fair saty, most on here are yearly members who have invested money in the club and we have been terrible for 8 years in a row, It's not surprising patience is thin, especially when we are costing ourselves with silly skill errors

Beezelbub little reminds me of a little nerdy kid paying off all his friends to start rumours and try and create public support Behind the bias and uneducated smokescreen you have a club that is in so much trouble it can't even respond to a show cause notice The other board members must be very nervous

But HH that is indirectly what you are suggesting, If we trade we get proven good players If we draft we get potential good players I think we need to top off the talent we have with a couple of classy players Offer prestia 5 years at 750,000 to come home to the club he and his family supported growing up Offer dangerfield 6 years at 1.2 million, with Clark's salary gone and frawley probably leaving we have huge cap room Trade pick 3& toumpas for danger Trade pick 4 for prestia Trade pick 21 and blease for tommlinson

I wonder if Robinson could give evidence to gain a lighter sentance knowing ASADA only need to prove its more likely they did take banned substances? Reimers is another wild card to this situation, the doggies power and Dockers might consider telling their players to fess up too, 6 months out is far better than 2 years and likely career over for most of these boys