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2015 AFL National Draft prospects: The next batch
Ted Lasso replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
I can't believe anyone thinks Oliver is a better kick than Parish, in the game i watched him play, he had 16 kicks and i remember 4 hitting a target, he just bombed it long and hoped. -
I reckon the plan has always been Parish and then a key at 7, if the bombers and suns looked like taking them then a key at 3 and oliver at 7 as a backup. mid/fwd combo seems like the plan.
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Maybe, but i'd fine it hard to believe they'd be in the class of Parish. your love child clayton averaged 14 contested possessions this season, Parish averaged 13, plus 16 uncontested and actually did something with them, his hands in tight are unbelievable always makes the right decision.
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Personally think Parish would be extremely stiff if we passed him up. Dual All Australian, a capacity to be equally as damaging off half back. two ultra consistent seasons, with a great mix of contested and uncontested ball winning. the skills, dash and creativity to add a new dimension to our midfield Oliver makes me nervous, i can see why we'd want him, he's a competitive animal, but ultimately he's played half a good season, didn't get picked for national champs, tested pretty well at the combine but i think people are really riding a wave of hype here. when a bloke goes from being ranked around pick 12 to ranked at pick 3 and doesn't play a game in that time, that makes me nervous.
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I've seen him and Parish both live, Parish is imo a far better prospect, Oliver has gone from outside the top 10 to pick 3 without having played a game in the meantime, either the recruiters see something special or this is the media blowing him up the way you are. i'd still be shocked if we don't pick Parish.
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Conspiracy theory, we're talking up Oliver as better than we actually think he is so we can grab Weiderman at 3, and have Essendon jump at Oliver and Francis, GCS for Milera and we snag Parish at 7 anyway
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Still betting we take Parish at 3 Goodwin and Macca have had a bit to do with the falcons Jason taylor was on a panel that selected him AA 2 weeks ago Oliver wasn't even in the mix for pick 3, he hasn't played a game since then. we were desperate to get our hands on pick 3 knowing Essendon would take Parish
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - CLAYTON OLIVER
Ted Lasso replied to Freddy Fuschia's topic in Melbourne Demons
I don't buy the idea that a club that has hardly leaked anything in a long while now has suddenly spilled the first draft selection a few days out from the draft. if we take Oliver clearly the recruiting team know what they're doing, personally i think parish is a much better player. -
If we are going to take Oliver at 3 ahead of Parish the recruiters must have seen something amazing in Oliver, from what i've seen he's been pumped up way more than his actual ability as a player.
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I think you're probably spot on, ultimately a lot of it is luck is Parish going to be a Gaff or a Toumpas? is Oliver going to be a Wines or a Riley
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Please, i rate him somewhere between 5 and 7 but Essendon will pick him if we don't, and i don't think we will.
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I like the thinking of drafting two hard tough players again, i'm just not sure Taylor and co will be sold enough on the very limited good form Oliver has shown vs players who have shown as much, only over a longer period of time.
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Exactly why having a laugh at that term is a bit silly, it ultimately is a lottery, best available to me is the best player based on exposed form and information regardless of positional needs. when you look at Parish you see a guy who's been consistently good over a long period of time, resulting in two All Australian selections and has shown plenty to suggest he'll be a very good AFL player and is a low risk choice at that selection hence best available option. Sam Weiderman or Charlie Curnow might well be seen as better players in 5 years time, but both could potentially also be flops, curnows had injuries and now a pretty big error of judgement off field and Weiderman has had a very serious injury, so both are risks on that alone, plus on exposed form having seem all three live i am not of the opinion they're as good as Parish as a player for the here and now.
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I reckon we have indirectly, Jason Taylor has said we'd take best available at pick 3, i find it hard to consider Weiderman or Curnow as being better players right now outside of a more pressing positional need, Parish at this moment is the best player at that pick imo
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i think, academy picks aside it'll be 1. Wietering 2. Schache 3. Parish 4. Francis 5. Curnow 6. Milera 7. Weideman 8. Balic 9. Oliver 10. Mathieson
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He wants to play for the Bombers, might be the only bloke in Australia but pick 3 is to high for him and he won't last until pick 7
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Which is i think a direct result of the ease of movement, moving home is always going to be tempting when it's so easy having said that Jesse Hogan, who has been quite homesick at times and very close to his family imo has been managed perfectly by the MFC, i think there is a lot of mutual respect there, he knows we will do the right thing by him, and also knows how important he is to everything we're trying to build.
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Must admit i am surprised you want Parish picket.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - CLAYTON OLIVER
Ted Lasso replied to Freddy Fuschia's topic in Melbourne Demons
Watching to many highlights mate. Parish runs through the centre and opens the game up, takes players on, generally hits his target and brings his team into the game Oliver gets it and bombs long, he's a brute but so was Aiden Riley. Parish to me is an Andrew Gaff clone but better at winning the inside ball, maybe Dan Hannebry Oliver seems to have alot of people seduced by the Cripps/Wines comparisons and not as much on what he's actually done. -
WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - CLAYTON OLIVER
Ted Lasso replied to Freddy Fuschia's topic in Melbourne Demons
Bontempelli was on the radar for alot longer than Oliver has been, Collingwood wanted him that whole year, Oliver didn't look like being drafted at one point. Parish is fast, skillful, can win his own ball, uses it well, makes great decisions and has a body of work to prove he's able to do it consistently. it's a no brainer at pick 3, not against Oliver at 7 but i don't think he's in the same league as Parish having seen both live. -
WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - CLAYTON OLIVER
Ted Lasso replied to Freddy Fuschia's topic in Melbourne Demons
Absolute rubbish, on his best day Parish would run rings around him on the outside and is more than capable on the inside, i wouldn't at all surprised if he slips out of the top 10, impressive sure, but he's come from nowhere, Parish has been All Australian 2 years in a row. -
WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - SAM WEIDEMAN
Ted Lasso replied to xman97's topic in Melbourne Demons
He's worth the risk at pick 7, not pick 3 when a player as good is Parish is an option. -
WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - CLAYTON OLIVER
Ted Lasso replied to Freddy Fuschia's topic in Melbourne Demons
To the ridiculous comparisons between Parish and Toumpas Clayton Oliver averaged 14 contested touches in the TAC cup Parish averaged 13 and 16 uncontested, and was infinitely more damaging on the outside, he's a match winner. plus he's done it 2 years in a row, Oliver has only really had a good half a season, at least Wines had a body of work behind him. -
Parish and weiderman would be a dream result. i reckon if he played all year weiderman would push top 2
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What a load of rubbish, unless Jason Taylor walked in on Parish snorting coke i'd bet my left one he is still the front runner for pick 3, all signs pointing to him