IRW
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44 minutes ago, Deeoldfart said:
Don't stress too much Jontee! Methinks Goody will keep a few tricks up his sleeve for the next time we meet with them. No need to play our full hand tonight.
Thanks for thatÂ
Methinks these tricks must be the one that the coach has had up his sleeve for 6 seasons because thus far he's been a one trick pony
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Addition4 minutes ago, dworship said:Wonderful analysis AF. There are times where I question why I monitor DL so much and then I see a contribution like this and think, yep. This is the real strategy stuff that Roos mentioned many years ago where he spoke of the fact the Coaches had to fix the non game day stuff before they could deliver the 30% on top that the coaches can add on game day.
Petty on Hawkins?
Smith will play on RohanÂ
And May will take HawkinsÂ
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3 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:
Agree but like the NRL we simply have too many teams in the one city.
The next TV rights deal is due in 2-3 years which could deliver a seismic shift between the have and have not clubs.
Around 3k apparently at today's Hawks v Dogs in Launceston according to ABC radio
I have a mate in Brisvegas who says NRL is the national football code.
He goes ballistic when I list the 2 AFL teams in 4 States plus the Victorian teams with each State having Premiership Teams and listing the weekly attendance numbers,let alone FinalsÂ
It's quite silly, a little sad and if AFL went to Tasmania I fear his head would explode.Â
Just like Gils eyeballs looked like they might burst when he heard the Tassie Premiers funding threat.
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3 hours ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:
Belief in himself to break in with a solid preseason without injury and continuity of games. A want to play in a team that will play finals and contend for silverware for the next 5 years of his career. Connections with players and staff after spending 6 years at the club.
I am sure we want him at the right price and would be keen to see him get a clear preseason and run of continuity and the confidence that comes with it. I suggest its on him as to how he sees his career and his contract expectations.Â
It's not as if he hadn't had a good run at it.
I can see why he might stay ,but do we need a VFL level depth player?
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3 hours ago, 58er said:
Jetta has not been in this  new group other than cameos and clearly sadly is past his best. Hibbo has until his recent drop been very good for the last 2 seasons and is fighting for his life to be part of it.
BTW that doesn't diminish Lord Nev's career which has just cycled earlier than this elite group at the moment.Â
As for Bowey yes it's hard on a 2 time sample but any one with footy knowledge and feeling for the game couldn't have been more impressed with his debut so far. He has adapted to the pace of the game and looked composed clever and team orientated.
His debut has resembled Trent Rivers while Harry Petty took about half a dozen games to find his feet but now looks like replacing Tommo.Â
Hunt is a pick especially  for his run and carry and we may miss this in the next month  from our defence but time will tell. This defence is undoubtedly still the cornerstone of our flag tilt along with our elite midfield.
Jetty was my favourite when he had to bash his body to pieces going 3rd in against the big forwards who were likely to kick 10 against  Oscar.
It's a pity his day has passed.Â
I figure Hibberd won't be part of the back 6 for the ages either.Â
Hunt can have a number of roles ,given he is one of the few genuine quicks in the 22.
But there is still room for a long term champion lock down back.
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1 minute ago, Darkhorse72 said:
I like Vanders and his story of making it back is great.  But his game was below what we wanted.  But is that also occurring with no ressie's comp to condition a player for the 1st's.  Mus be hard playing nothing and then stepping.
Not half as good a story as Nathan Jone's though.
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Afterthought1 hour ago, Wizard of Koz said:Agreed that VDB is not mu h chop but I wAnt to point out that last week many were saying harmes should be dropped and is no good. Even LJ was mentioned being dropped a couple of weeks ago.
Both killed it last night.Â
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Yeah, but Harmes( and Melksham) have demonstrated their worth over the journey.Â
How long ago is it ,if ever,that Vanders has done so?
Harmes and Melksham don't get in the way if they are playing a bad game.
VDB doesn't have a good game any more if he ever did..His body has never let him.
I only mentioned Jones , who I acknowledged was also off the pace to emphasise the futility of persevering with Vandenberg.Â
Don't get me started on Weideman  but Vander's aggression and Spargos game brain on Weids skills base would be an AFL grade player.
Otherwise, if picked,they are the bottom 3 that defines the teams likelihood to win the flagÂ
Jones might be only best 24 but he's not an impediment the way VDB is .
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2 hours ago, Ollie fan said:
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I wonât be popular for saying it, but I never thought Jones was that good â he was just in a very poor team. I donât think he chases nearly hard enough, and that is such a major part of our game.
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I have always liked VDB but he wasnât great last night, but given the amount of football he has missed in the last year or so, he was always going to be very rusty. I say, give him another chance because his capacity to stick a tackle and hurt with it is enormously helpful to us.
When was the last time Vanders WAS great?Â
He turns " run" into sludge and his disposal is 2 seasons old.
But yeah ,Viney will come back in to run headlong onto ever pack he sees and Sparrow and Jordan are ahead of Jones.
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5 hours ago, The heart beats true said:
Neither. Too slow. Our game is built on defensive pressure. Iâd have Sparrow ahead of them both. Viney will come straight back in to, so unless we have a lot of injuries I think they are both well down the pecking order.
I think we planned for a very wet night last night, and might have been surprised at how dry the game became in the 2nd quarter. VDBÂ got the nod for the rain, and that reason alone.
Sparrow played last night
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CorrectionFair dinkum Vanders is a lumbering liability and still has the skill and decision making deficit of the earlier Goodwin Demons iteration.Â
Someone said yesterday the game has passed him by.
I said the same thing about Jones  after the Finals win at the G in ...( whenever it was;who can tell these days?) against Hawthorn ,but seriously does anyone not think he would be a better inclusion than the frustration  that is Vanders.He can stop any fluid ball movement without even tryingÂ
But Nathan Jones?
A red hot go (firstly as the medical sub), he can kick a goal and he would give it full throttle like no other player on the list to get a shot at the flag in his last game.
It wouldn't even be sentimental  (unless he holds the Cup), just a smart move
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3 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:
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The tackle then the trash talk has been posted on here and talked about a lot, but yes at the end of the half right after Trac kicks that goal Selwood goes after Kozzie and Oliver intervenes.
Sounds like they may have been at each other all game.  God bless Kozzie for showing no respect to that diving cheat.
I saw Jones having a long friendly exchange with Selwood post siren.
You guys need to grow upÂ
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Clearly they were hoping for Clarko because they moved immediately his manager said he was having a year off.
Why did they think he would go to them anyway,?.he's just finished having to put up with Kennett....any other club would be more enticing than Carlton.
Delusional beyond conventional imaginationÂ