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    6 hours ago, rpfc said:

    Classic MFC fan revisionism of BB. He was fantastic at North and has been, and currently is, the best tall forward we have.

    I said footy not tall forward...I reckon you are correct about BBB.

    I used to hate him at North..big fan now

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    8 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    In Victoria 'close contacts' no longer need to isolate so players are safe unless they get it.

    Yep great system... that was on the cards when football coaches came out and insisted that was best practise for the minority of the population who follow AFL

    I don't recall Brett Sutton's advice and clearly a November election is irrelevant as a consideration. 

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    1 hour ago, hemingway said:

    Matthew Lloyd might be right in stating that Weid is the more natural forward than BB and TMac. I would agree regarding TMac but not BB. 

    However, we no longer have a game where teams rely on a natural forward a la Matthew Lloyd or a Full Forward of the past generation or 5. We have a game where versatility, two way running, contested footy etc predominant. Fritsch is successful because he is good in the air and on the ground, and can win his own ball no matter how the ball enters the forward line. And he kicks goals from limited opportunities. His skill set means he is difficult to match up and has the happy knack of being able to lose his opponent. 

    Weid is the more natural lead to position and be the recipient of the well delivered ball. But we don’t play that way any more. It’s bomb the ball forward and have a group of versatile players create opportunities from a loose ball. 

    Watching the matches so far it appears that the coaches and BB and Weid have not worked out how to play together without tripping over one another or their teammates. 

    I just can’t see how we can have both players up forward as the season progresses. It seems out of balance. 

    BB is harder to match up on, normally a reliable kick for goal and had also had shown terrific second and third efforts. He is footy smart and know where to go. 

    I think we are better off going with BB rather than Weid. 

    Weid does not seem to suit our game plan. Clearly Goodwin and others are prepared to persevere with Weid but he does not seem the right fit. The coaches see it differently and they are in a position to know. It just seems odd. 

    All this  analyses of Weideman makes it seem as if Lloyd doesn't know  he's been in and out of the team for the last five or so years but can't come good..

     

    He's a leading marking forward who can't catch the ball

    He's a good kick 

    He looks as dopey as Mathew Lloyd but isnt as talented which is a pity but still  maybe the Hawks have long memories about playing against him and will be a little worried.

     

    BBB plays like Mr Squiggle but is better at footy.

    Tom is the best of the three but can't keep his form over a full season and he's had nearly 200 games to prove it

     

     

     

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    2 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

    I would love to see this bloke make it, even if its at the expense of one of my favorite players in Tmac.

    If he doesn't make it this year, I fear time will start to be against him. This is  all I'm trying to say.

    He has the fitness....pedigree and talent. 

    Maybe tonight will be his breakout game. Come on SW.

    Yep any Dee who comes good is welcome  but breakout game is a bit rich.What he needs is consistent good games

    5 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

    Hes 25 in a few months.

    Everyone hopes he will do well but at this stage, I think time is against him.

    He simply must fire tonight and continue to do so. 

    I'm pleased you mention his age...so far the excuses for his non production  of results run to " its all above his shoulders"...he's been playing AFL for 6 or 7 years and he's a grown up...or he  hasn't had a good run in the "ones"...I don't know how many sequential games he's played ,or how many times, but I am confident  there has not been a rolled gold full forward keeping him out of the 22 when he's had his chance (s)...

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    45 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

    My point is that Goodwin would have a far better idea than you.

    Fair enough..so perhaps the mods should now just ban opinions( with or without reasons) henceforth. 

    Did you hear the story about me sitting on the balcony with a mate at a Dee's vs North match many many seasons ago?

    Barry Cable coaching North from the box which  in those days was open and just a" lean across "from our seats.

    Half time ..Brian Wilson is cutting up North playing on the wing and my mate says " they should put Glendenning( I think it was) on Wilson"...so I say.."the coach is just there why don't you tell him" and so Benny did....

    " What did he say?

    " nothing,didn't even look "

    A few minutes later....runner comes out and moves Gelendenning onto Wilson who hardly gets another kick..North come back and win!!

    Game over..Benny leans across as coach descends..

    " good move with Glenndenning"

    " what did he say?"

    " nothing ,completely ignored me"

    Benny dined out on that story whenever I was there to verify it

    On Ology GSmith could remember the game and the 2nd half North comeback.

     

    I am confident Goodwin in general knows far  better than me, but you haven't yet given one reason why he does on this occasion  and further to that you might have noted that I at least suggested the possibility that the coaching group may well be correct.

    Anything else I can clarify for you.

    I actuly used to think Weideman could be an asset myself 

     

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    19 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

    Quite sure he will.

    Well ,when Weideman is finishing up (at whichever club it is) I wonder if he will have had  almost AA full back year,( half year pre injury) a  50 goals with very few behinds tall forward year... to go with strong stand in the middle of the pack ,genuinely clunking, marks and elite running efforts and competent forward line pre Gawn rucking skills.

    Injuries and the burden of a mostly crepe team has been Tom's game...apparently Weideman's only failing is above his shoulders and not being gifted enough games.

    Anyway Goody was correct about Spargo and I was mistaken,so it's possible but not certain that he will get Weideman out of his current depth/ "potential " ranking.

    The one thing that is " certain" is that Tom won't have said pre season that he was ready and determined to step up and be the main goal kicker like Weideman did about 3 years ago.!

    Still waiting mate.

    Tom has been a soldier rather than a marginal list clogger

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    43 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

    Disagree, he's taken contested marks against Essendon and GWS.

    I think you have missed my other contributions on these two.

    Tom( past and present) is twice the value of Weideman and imo likely twice what Weideman ever will be.

    But he's a confidence player ( it's written all over his face) and for every success in the last few years there is a dropped mark,a kick into the man on the mark and a missed goal when a few years back he NEVER missed and could run up and down the ground all day.

    Injury and inconsistency don't play well with lack of confidence.OMac had similar issues.

    I hope Tom  gets back in until Van Rooyen is ready to replace him but I doubt it, so ( imo) we are lumbered with Weideman's promising leads and nice kicking but rarely catching it in a pack, ,chasing or applying pressure 

    Sigh..

    Goody may well prove me wrong  of course and I don't dispute that Tom has plenty of games to make his case

     

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    5 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

    I like the decision to keep in Weid

    He has been ok in his 3 games and needs some regular games to build consistency and synergy with his teammates. He has started clunking marks which should be the main aim at the moment. Do that and the rest will follow.

    TMac may feel hard done by but can bang down the door in the 2s to demand a spot back. He was brilliant early last season but hasn't been to that level since probably the Port game last year.

    Weideman is hardly "clunking "..he hasn't done that since the 3(?) In the finals 2018( ?)  ...so long ago I forget the detail.

    Tom is an old man in this team and  probably plays a bit lost .

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    6 minutes ago, 640MD said:

    All good points,  I do not disagree on any particular point, perhaps I look at Tmac with rose coloured glasses for one particular bullocking goal against  ? (west coast) in the goal square.  Weid could easily get to Tmac level, its all above his shoulders.

    Tom has been on the edge of his end for some time now; a lot of his team stuff and contest actually seems to happen when he fails at what he is trying to do.

    Weideman can certainly get to that level ; actually you'd think after being in the system for 6 years he'd be there now.

    But he isn't and there is no sign he'll ever be Tom at his best.

    When I see his name at CHF.I think......." Wayne Carey...not"!!  

    All this talk about Weideman's                " head"...that's Tom's issue as well         ( other than the fact he can no longer run the opposition into the ground which Weideman will never do) and I figure he's pretty much cooked.

    But I am happy he got a flag  , even with the junk time goal after the siren...which probably hurt a bit.

     

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    1 hour ago, whatwhat say what said:

    behind the goals footage is afl exclusive and clubs pay a pretty penny to access it. and the likes of fox footy license it in order to use it in their mag shows (e.g. afl 360, couch)

    like a lot of things, it's something that the hoi polloi aren't allowed to see for whatever reason

    It was worth reading those facts just to see that someone actually  knows the meaning of hoi polloi! ( smile)

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    20 hours ago, Wrecker46 said:

    You do know Singapore is a country and Melbourne is a city?

    We were the most  locked downcity in the the world.

    Did you miss my point about definitions being the point.?

    Did you miss the point about cliches offering nothing to intelligent discourse?

    Are you aware the population of Melbourne and Singapore are about the same?

    Thought so  ...ok try this.

    I agree that Covid common sense,Easter holidays and crepe opposition would affect supporter numbers.

    But try this as well...After the G/F I was having a drink with Tom Dixon,Dickos son, in from Singapore and we were talking Covid with he and Brin ,Dickos daughter out from America where their whole family and every Mexican worker on their farm had had Covid and the management factors were overwhelming them.

    Now Tom from Singapore.." yep more or less open..for 2 years no more than 8 people can congregate outside and masks are compulsory even alone.

    There are Covid marshals in the street everywhere and an automatic fine if you are caught. It's a dob in culture ,I have had people ring a marshal to report me.Its common.

    Oh.. and no more than 2 people per table in restaurants .If I go with my wife and daughters we need to sit at 2 separated tables. 

    It's really stressful...Melbourne seems so relaxed....Dicko sang the song  he was pumped"

    So rather than believe journos making up headlines please try and consider useful facts.

    It's just not that difficult

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    2 hours ago, Wrecker46 said:

    We were playing GWS on Easter weekend coming off being the most lockdwoned city in the world.

    It's no surprise our supporters went away. We will all be there in September.

     

    Firstly Melbourne wasn't the most locked down city in the world for a starter.  It depends on definitions ..try Singapore or take a look at the on and off chaos of the UK.  I have a regular English customer back to our fine shores last week amazed that " no one wears masks here...you go to sport with 30,000 strangers and take no precautions! How did you do so well the last two years? "Well, intelligent policy ,best efforts to respond to an ongoing issue that no one fully understands yet I guess.

    I also went to Tonka in the city with a meal during  the six months virtually restrictions free we had after the first level 4 orders with an Aussie friend out from New York to see her aging parents( you know when no one could come and go...bullsh!)  Her first words when the waiter came up were..."how can you be open ? Why is no one wearing masks ? You can't do this in New York!"

    Answer..we had a policy in place and currently there are no covid cases in Victoria.

    If you want to run with cliches stick to Essendrug or Richmond car thieves.

    I was surprised by the attendance numbers  as well. 

    The 3rd quarter alo e would have been worth seeing live 

     

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