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1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I'm probably one of a few that's not really big on Daisy as a commentator. But in all honesty I'm not big on many commentators in today's game. Personally think the standard and talent has dropped significantly.

I'm more interested in her career as a full time coach for Geelong because I think she'll be a ripper! I think it's been magnificent to see her career the way it's panned out from being a pioneer of women's footy to now becoming an assistant coach at an AFL club. Hopefully this now opens the door to more opportunity for women coming through the men's coaching ranks.

In terms of commentators I do like Anthony Hudson the most. Some of the games iconic moments captured have also included his commentary which creates good theatre, e.g Jeremy Howe mark in 2012 and the Buddy "Thiirrrteeeen"

A left field one who I've really enjoyed over the past couple of years and deserve significant air time is Nigel Carmody. For those that don't know he usually does the AFL women's team and also the VFL on 7. He is seriously underrated in my eye and I would like to see him get promoted to more prime time slots next year while they [censored] off BT and Carey.

I know James Brayshaw annoys a lot of people but you have to admit, his Clayton Oliver's "Bang bang bang" commentary will certainly go down as one of the best moments in that grand final. Among others that is..

"Bang bang bang...bang " 

Thankyou very much..

and the Doggies midfield looking shattered at the score board as they trudged their surrender boots back to the next bounce will be all the visual memory we need to have 

3 hours ago, faultydet said:

Underwood is an abomination as a commentator.

If you want an example of a network attempting to shoe-horn a woman into the coverage beyond all expectation of ability, its her.

Daisy is the polar opposite.

Thankyou for making that clear. 

Underwood is awful and now the " little master" is gone has nothing to say anyway.

One only has to listen to Daisy quietly correcting BT ' s stupid mis observations during the finals to put any debate to bed.

Not only was she correct ,she was able to time her corrections so as not to embarrass BT beyond what he  does himself.

As to the worst? Yes BT is pipped by Rex ,but the long gone and never missed Harry Beitzel says hullo.

Jones won't be on air next year and no one will notice.

1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Outrageous performance from Pickett, as good as any game from any player in the league this year.

Remarkable how he comes good when he is not been wasted at the kick in "defenders" role isn't it?

I recall someone suggesting it earlier this week  ....and being rubbished by experts !

You guys are just hilarious 

42 minutes ago, Antioch said:

BT always barracks against the Demons. Worst commentator ever.

He's actually  even worse than that 

On 7/15/2022 at 5:17 PM, Lord Nev said:

You'd have to sign up to Champion Data and try to find the ladder of scores from kick outs I guess.

But, we're second on the ladder despite a bit of bad luck with injury and the like so I'm not sure we need to be assuming we've noticed cracks in the plan that the coaches haven't.

It's not injuries putting us second....its playing patchy football,it's bad forward craft and surprisingly" loading" for half the season so we are not unbeatable in the last quarter like last year.

But almost no injuries last year helped....last year

6 hours ago, CYB said:

A lot can change in 2 years. I would think the club would be confident to extend even further at that point.

Doesn't matter.....the  dog has bolted already,

6 hours ago, CYB said:

We need a top 5 pick for LJ and and given his potential another late first round or early 2nd. The points worth is not an appropriate conparison as we would most likely use the first pick to chase the best KPF available and they go early. The 2nd pick would probably look at a ruck or KPD.

As much as I’d hate to lose Brayshaw, and I don’t think he’d leave, he is in fact excess to our needs. We can cover for him at HB and on the defensive wing and in the midfield. He would also demand a 1st round pick (mid to late).

Having 2-3 1st round picks would be phenomenally good for us and allow us to restock our lists with quality players and be relevant and playing finals for the next decade.

I thought we were going for a certain three peat and the following 5 years in the window were a " given".

I know we're loading and not showing our hand before the finals but has something changed that I am not aware of.

37 minutes ago, bing181 said:

He's not a replacement for Clarry. If anything, he's a replacement for Sparrow, Harmes and Trac down forward, to free them up to take on more of the midfield/Clarry role.

Don't confuse those with an inbuilt group hatred for Melksham

27 minutes ago, Philthy84 said:

IF Dogga leaves, I have no doubt the club will acquire decent compensation for him.

 

And I hope change his moniker to Dog

10 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Greg was a run of the mill ruckman & I was very surprised he got the fwd coach job. 

Seems like a nice guy but I'd have thought that u need to have played a lot of footy in a good forward line to get the gig.

Maybe a Sav Rocca or Stevie J or P Sumich.

I think our fwd line has been mostly dysfunctional since he took over.

 

Well yes maybe but it's been a really long time( seasons) since regularly functional was an adjective that could be applied to MFC's forward line

Even recently bang bang bang bang was mostly bipassing the forwards ( the first bang aside maybe)

They will lining up to smack you with the last half of last year's last game

9 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

Great teams can cover the loss of a star player. 

And if we can't cover for Oliver as a premiership TEAM, then clearly we're not the team many think we are. 

Sides like Carlton and Collingwood have been able to cover the loss of their best players. 

If we can't beat Port up there, I can't see us finishing top 4.

Melbourne supporters still have a soft underbelly. 

Personally I suspect we may find losing Petty harder to cover 

1 hour ago, Sydee said:

Based on what exactly ? Other than the fact he hasn't signed a contract extension yet 

Seems a reasonable assumption according to previous resigning schedules across interstate clubs vis a vis time lines. 

But as the saying goes there's still a chance that Scully will stay

20 hours ago, 1964_2 said:

Wine, beers, both or other? 

Do you follow Nagarjuna?

2 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Don't think so! 

They had Archer at whose feet a lot of this mess lies.   He recruited both Shaw and Noble and oversaw the decimation of their list and turnover of their coaching panel. 

Garry committed only one of those 'sins': recruiting Neeld, then was smart enough to stay out of the club.

Yeah probably fair enough.

...but what an incredible sin it was

3 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Not when you’re handballing 70% of the time. Here’s hoping the thumb causes Clarry to kick more.

I figure he throws it 50 %  of that 70%

It's a thing of beauty imo 

On 5/7/2022 at 8:19 AM, Clint Bizkit said:

Also, Paul Roos has been paid a truckload by Norf as some sort of consultant.

The best thing Roos did for us was he took pressure off the club and was able to deflect a lot of the media scrutiny on us at the time.

He can’t do that for Norf in his current role (whatever it is).

Norf doesn't have Garrey Lyon either.

That should help them and it seems like Boomer is less up to his neck in the Club  chaos than  Connolly was..

Scott seems to have left a mess no matter the manner of his departure. 

He played a hard ball better than most

Maybe they just are a crepe Club that never recovered from the man's man years under the real estate agent 

12 hours ago, Kozzie4PM said:

We are in the second best position we've been in my lifetime at this stage of the year. I'm genuinely excited about the next 2-3 months.

Ah there you go .

I am happy for you ,I just think we need a  little  movement at the station ,or whatever it is they call home these days.

Not too much though as you can see I speculated we could finish top of the table from here 

Mind you this is familiar territory for me ..two flags and a regular final four supporter 

Ho hum   ( smile)

17 minutes ago, adonski said:

Brayshaw into the guts is the SPARK we need. It'll massively boost the output of Salem & Bowza too.

Unfortunately Simple Simon is not capable of such shrewd tactics...and I say it with a heavy heart..Rivers back in?

That's a backline for the ages or was last year.

Rivers,Lever,Salem..its time to back them in imo

20 minutes ago, rpfc said:

I will leave you two to it…

Goody and Choco  or Bluey and Lord Nev? 

( smile)

15 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Ah yes, completely change everything weeks out from finals, have a game plan that is a weekly proposition, stop defending kick ins and yell some abuse at them... All when we're 2nd on the ladder (by percentage).

Seems reasonably well thought out and not an emotional reaction at all.

 

Clearly I suggested tweaking  , not completely changing  according to opposition weaknesses.

And moving Kossi to the contested kick in is hardly surrendering the kick in 

Can you read? 

Do you think Kossi is causing pressure at the kick ins?

You must be in the 10 week loading mob.

Geez try something intelligent for a change..I asked for alternatives because you guys are so smart...and misquoting is all you've got!.

In theory we could still finish on top more likely 4th and that's a tad optimistic on current form. 

We have pretended they have been loading for the last 8 games( I mean seriously?),  took a  while to get going early because they started late (Premiers after all) and recently lost to Geelong because we tricked them into showing everything and we showed nothing ( it keeps gets better and better).

My theory is that injuries have been an  important problem and lack of professionalism  crucial.

What to do? 

I reckon they are good enough..look at the stats over the season and the challenge is really in the hands in the coaches...Goodwin especially.

Plan B ?????( at long last)????perhaps restructure game day plans that no one will see coming according to the opposition.

It won't  be Petty up forward; in case you haven't noticed he's patching up a backline that needs help and doing it admirably..why would you move him ?

Stop wasting Kossie "defending " kick ins..he's not an AAA+ battery robot ffs.

Suggest a move that includes May kicking in occasionally to the right hand side..NO ONE will see that coming@

If someone is sore..give him a rest NOW.

Try one  , just one, left field promotion from the " twos".

Read the riot act.....then get Choco to do one one commentary where there are pieces to pick up.

You guys are obviously experts (especially Bluey) let's hear some common sense and no mention of Weideman 

On 7/5/2022 at 10:34 AM, layzie said:

We really need him to be physical. If there's one thing I want from him all game long is to hit every pack and contest in the air, I'm not fussed with marks, kicks, goals or even hitouts right now. We just need him to be a presence and if that is happening he'll chip in with some of the other stuff. 

These marking contests where he gets caught under it and loses balance or the number of 'nearly marks' he has. If he just clunks 1 or 2 more per game that may be enough. 

Could have said the same thing about Jack Watts...actually pretty much every  past forward except Ablett Snr,Carey or Dunstall.

Anyway there's more chance of LJ of holding a couple more a game than Weid.( that's Dogga ,not Liam J who only dropped them so he could kick them over his head while flat on his back)

Weid caught two against the Hawks in 2019...almost match winners from memory...but I think he reckons thats his quota for the decade.

1 hour ago, Hatchman said:

Despite him signing I think we should trade Sam this year while he still has currency. 

He's been with us for a long time but he still cannot take a contested mark to save himself and he gets bodied off the ball too much. He is a nice kick for goal, however. He's one of those players that is just a little too good for VFL, but not good enough for AFL, he'd have better luck at a club that is struggling.

If we don't off load him then  , the way our forward line os going, MFC will be a" club that is struggling".

7 years is surely  long enough to work out whether he can hold down a spot.

It's not as if MFC has had champion full forwards keeping him out of the team

14 hours ago, one_demon said:

There's a lot of talk about the players but I think the coaches need to lift.  They need to find a way to combat the faster ball movement from the opposition.

It looks like the coaches believe what the commentators were saying about MFC's unbeatable brilliance and that the "big" Coach still doesn't believe in having a Plan B.

Anyway never mind," Landers" have it under control. 

We have been loading for 10 weeks  and once the umpires and Selwood stop cheating we will be Premiers again. 

Perhaps we just need Bluey to organise Cake Morton to coach the mids to tweak the system.

6 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Salem and Bowey aren’t going much better. The whole backline seemed to have lost their ability to generate run and carry and hit kicks.

Choco doesn’t appear to be the saviour as advertised.

Choco has a history of losing interest..or so I was told last season

3 hours ago, Star of the 80s said:

You might be right that Goodwin hasn’t got the balls to make that many changes. But lets look at the facts:

- We have won 2 of our last 6 games;

- We played one good quarter of football in the games against Freo (2nd Qtr), Swans (1st Qtr), Coll (1st Qtr) and Geelong ok in first half.

- Our forward has been ineffective... our mid field when put under a lot of pressure just bomb the ball forward and don’t/can’t look for options leading to lots of easy intercept marks

- We have been too one dimensional playing the same old game plan from last year and the good sides have worked us out

- Goodwin keeps playing the same “method” and “team” making very few changes during games

- A number players are playing selfish football and looking after their own interests (I.e. Fritsch not passing the ball to Petracca and Langdon, etc and attempting to kick the goal himself instead of passing the ball himself) - this is why Fritsch needs to be dropped

- Salem’s form since returning from injury has been sub standard

- Spargo backing out of a contest when a Geelong player was coming straight at him in a pack that led to a Geelong goal

- Sparrow jumping out of the way instead of continuing to chase his Geelong opponent that led to another Geelong goal

- Goodwin talks about rewarding good form of players in the VFL. Now is the time to shake up this team and play guys who are playing well and with confidence at Casey. 

- Despite low possessions Kossie was one of better players against the Cats and was prepared to throw his weight around and kicked a much needed goal in the last qtr.

Btw I have picked like for like players in my 7 changes who I think would been more energy to the team and are “team” first players. 

Enough said!!!

 

It's still too many  changes on top of Clarrie out for a start ;the reasoning is almost irrelevant.

Goodwins not for changing;  some might say that's why he isn't a super coach.

Kossie does what Kossie does,but he's a luxury who doesn't position himself well enough to maximise his talents. 

He still needs to learn his game rather than celebrating his successes.

Salem will come good ,it won't happen any quicker in the twos.

Spargo still has the best footy brain in the forward half...its seriously lacking with the others.

Max will be better next week.

Swap Van Rooyen for Raggedy Anne Brown by all means and see if Fritsch has better simpatico with him.

The only way this season will work out now( it's obviously about 10 games too late) is to bite the bullet and stick with the core of last year's team and make changes for the longer term with fingers crossed.......

.....Or get Bluey officially on board in the team selection process .

I always like his idea of Cale Morton for captain back in the Demonology days.

Left field thinking  aka retiring to Queenscliff as opposed to Portsea