IRW
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1 hour ago, DeeZone said:Bowey has a high footy IQ and is an excellent kick remember what they said about Diesel Williams to short, too slow.. he showed them.!!!
I don't dispute his " weapons";Spargo has a high footy IQ as well,that's why I have them waxing up forward.
The Diesel I recall weighed 88 kgs,had a low centre of gravity so you couldn't ragdoll him and his handball is more like and actual accurate Trac kick into the forward line than Clarrie's extraordinary extractions from under a pack.
I just reckon Bowey needs 10 kg's and that's a lot
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10 hours ago, DubDee said:
You make tough decisions early so you don’t end up doing a Collingwood who will be paying around $700K next for players not on their list
its clear we don’t see Hunt as part of our plans and the coaches expect Bowie etc to replace him next year
While that's probably correct the fact remains Bowie needs 10 kgs and an extra 10 % of pace if he's going to be a long term player.
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2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:
DEMONLAND VOTES FOR 2022 were
Clarrie wins the Demonland Player of the Year by the length of the straight -
274. Clayton Oliver
201. Christian Petracca
151. Angus Brayshaw
132. Jack Viney
105. Max Gawn
98. Steven May
84. Ed Langdon
53. Kysaiah Pickett
52. James Jordon
50. Harry Petty
40. Bayley Fritsch
37. Jake Lever
36. James Harmes Luke Jackson
24. Michael Hibberd Tom Sparrow
22. Jake Bowey
18. Ben Brown Alex Neal-Bullen
17. Jake Melksham
8. Tom McDonald Sam Weideman
5. Jayden Hunt Charlie Spargo
4. Christian Salem
3. Joel Smith
1. Trent Rivers2022 Keith ‘Bluey’ Truscott Memorial Trophy – Top 10
Clayton Oliver – 608 votes
Christian Petracca – 553 votes
Steven May – 473 votes
Jack Viney – 471 votes
Angus Brayshaw – 446 votes
Max Gawn – 430 votes
Bayley Fritsch – 395 votes
Kysaiah Pickett – 391 votes
Alex Neal-Bullen – 384 votes
Ed Langdon – 367 votes
Glad to see May up there.
I think Petty was stiff further down the list.
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1 hour ago, DubDee said:
You make tough decisions early so you don’t end up doing a Collingwood who will be paying around $700K next for players not on their list
its clear we don’t see Hunt as part of our plans and the coaches expect Bowie etc to replace him next year
Yeah clearly ,but it still makes an interesting reflection on the list "carnage " if they were trying to fit Jackson in.
I guess we don't know what Hunt considers too low or whether he was also "encouraged " verbally to explore his options.
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2 hours ago, adonski said:We probably low balled him because he isn't very good
4 other Clubs appear to have a different and presumably offered more.
There is nothing in what I posted that suggest he's an A grader.
But he did play more games than Weideman got in a dysfunctional forward line so I can only assume it's budget vs current contract.
Did you not understand my post?
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8 hours ago, Vipercrunch said:
I’m sure some will never accept it, but it’s crystal clear that the coaches really value what role players like ANB (8th tonight) bring to the club. It’s not all about the commonly talked about stats.
True that.
However it doesn't mean ANB is not also in the" bottom 6" and is not as good as role players in the Premiers " bottom 6"
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5 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:
Goody:
Winning after winning
Tough and brutal
competition
We finished 2nd but in the end after the finals, disappointly if hurt
Wanted to do it for Melbourne faithful and enjoy a win at the MCG
Aim to create winning behavior and culture of success
Last 2 weeks analyzing what needs improvement
+10 consecutive wins
+growth and premiership of Casey (!!!) Mark Corrigan ✅
ways to get better - culture and game style and adding VFL talent
Need to put pieces together to get back to the top
thank you to 65000 members
in the words of “Neale Daniher” … ‘Become a person of value’.
Fifth..
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5 minutes ago, Demons11 said:
🙄thanks for your insights troll
I concede a little on Kossie but do you think the others had good seasons...cobber
Were you the one that said early days in the finals that Geelong and Collingwood were crepe and the Dee's would walk right through them?
Or are you just one of the duffers who can't see the difference between supporting and ignoring the obvious?
....cobber
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9 minutes ago, Demons11 said:
Completely plateau 🤦🏼♂️
Trac, Oliver, Petty, Kozzie, Spargs, Sparrow, Rivers will plateau, will they? None of these players are yet to hit their peak.
I hope Kozzie Spargo Sparrow and Rivers are a long long way from their peaks because they weren't much help this season
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1 hour ago, Billy said:
I’d much prefer keeping Weiderman & push Ben Brown into an early retirement
Browns performance late in the year was very poor & should’ve been dropped
Weideman had a good game in the 2018 finals
BBB kicked 3 in last year's final so he's got about another 4 years to equal the time they have given Weideman to repeat the dose
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1 hour ago, IRW said:Nothing wrong with the defence if the forwards holds it in OR kick goals.
There is only so much any defence can do before they are overrun if it keeps coming back at them.
May should have won the Brownlow except in a fair world Petty would have taken votes off him.
Salem and Rivers played below potential, add Bowie and there is a clear need for a bigger body.
Otherwise it's ok
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2 hours ago, Dwight Schrute said:
He kind of hit the nail on the head, we need to keep improving. we tried to run the 2021 playbook back and refused to budge, and while there were other factors as well, we need to keep evolving to continue to push for more premierships.
i'd imagine in 2023 we will be more daring with our ball movement, look to tidy up our defensive structure to hold up better against teams who run the ball at us, and overall look to get the forward line functioning in a more healthy fashion
Nothing wrong with the defence if the forwards hs it in AND kick goals.
Thete is only so much the defence can do before they are overruns should have won the Brownlow except in a fsir world Petty would have taken votes of him.
Salem and Rivers below potential, add Bowie and there is a clear need for a bigger body.
Otherwise it's ok
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20 minutes ago, Travy14 said:
Love the effort and time. But there is no point to making up trades with picks just from this year. Always futures involved and the Dees have recently been active in that space
I am pleased someone has noticed.
They've been spending futures like they are not needed because they were banking on VFL input,aka the Cats , rather than it being a permanent 2nds team or a home to keep Weid game ready
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3 minutes ago, CYB said:
Where's the fun in dealing with even more speculation ;).
Any scenario that lands us with a KPF + Grundy is a win. Pick 2 nets us Cadman. As for future picks, well that would mean we have to put up with BBB and TMac for another year and we all know that story too well. Maybe JVR changes it up and maybe Maxy learns to kick straight. but JVR needs a long term partner in crime and the other 3 are approaching their expiry date.
Maybe Trac could learn to kick as well.
That's 20 or 30 goals a season while they find a KPF to replace Tom and BBB.
Max is demonstrably better behind the play rather than regularly forward.
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Hawks racism allegations (merged thread)
in Melbourne Demons
Having carefully checked that somehow his name has not resurfaced in these latest developments Mr Kennett has set in motion the " fix" from the top.
It now seems he whole thing is their fault no matter what mistakes may or may not have been made.
Nothing to see here