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44 minutes ago, layzie said:

"Trust I seek and I find in you" In the words of James Hetfield

He's been underrated as part of a cohesive backline team ,how he goes in the chaos of the Melbourne forward line is uncertain ,given the small sample.

Either way they'll miss him

15 hours ago, Jumping Jack Clennett said:

You aren’t…..wow!

I have a life as well as supporting the MFC

But apparently if Kossie hadn't been suspended 3 times he might have got off with a fine.!!

Are you still talking about this?

Wow

3 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

Petty typically provides average pressure for a key forward but he’s had a limited preseason so I think he’s down a bit in that regard this season. 

Brown is all offence. He needs 3 goals per game to be a positive. 

Yeah I meant to suggest that Petty will up his defensive game over the coming weeks as he gets game fit.

They have to kick it to Brown not just lob it forward as in the past.

On 12/04/2024 at 08:59, titan_uranus said:

I'm definitely open to pushing Windsor behind the ball more, particularly now that we're down both Bowey and Salem (good kicks x 2). I'm also very much in favour of pushing Rivers into the middle more but without Bowey and Salem, that robs us of so much run. Hence the Windsor move, which as you say then opens up a spot for Hunter. Goodwin alluded to this as an option in his mid-week presser, when asked about how Hunter gets back into the side, so I reckon it's a reasonable chance of happening.

Brown and Petty were both bad last night, albeit at least Petty has the excuse of having Harris Andrews as his opponent. On last night's evidence one should be dropped, but the principal problem last night was the belting we got in the middle. When we have been strong in the middle, Brown's presence forward has been very important for us. I think we need to cut him and Petty some slack for last night.

Petty will get better,Brown can lead and mark and kick straight if they kick it to him. JVR is apparently the future and has to ruck and compete at against bigger bodies down forward,which is poor. Fritsch is defensively lazy ,probably doesn't even know what the word means but is the leading goal kick from marks and opportunist positioning.

Who arnt you going  to pick?

 BoneonBone BBB probably needs the bye more than anyone and with proper management possibly shouldn't have played on Thursday.

He will likely be the sacrifice for AFL stupid and irresponsible fixturing

On 12/04/2024 at 11:37, Fat Tony said:

I agree that the issue is in the middle. Will Oliver's injury improve over the break? If it does not, I would definitely be playing Rivers as a centre midfielder, even if it causes further instability in the back half. We need to do better at clearance and Oliver is a liability with only one hand. (I would probably still play him if we are convinced it won't make the injury worse, but as a high half forward.)

And the issue with Brown and Petty is not just a last night thing. The lack of pressure from Brown, Petty, JVR and Fritsch means we can only play three IMO.

Surely as part of a previous elite backline  team we can expect more pressure from Petty ,but which of the other three doesn't get a game according to your thinking?

Presumably Brown, who can lead mark and kick straight!!!

On 10/04/2024 at 09:11, Willmoy1947 said:

Greg Williams and Rod Grinter send their regards, along with many others

Oh please stop fighting ...Kossie isn't a thug( or Williams) he's getting suspended for undisciplined and unnecessary minor infractions that a few years back ,when he started, probably would pass unnoticed

I said to the first posturing response " choose your adjective. " :undisciplined, careless,    unnecessary, wasteful.??

Then mentioned his genius with ground balls..suspension is wasting his talent and contributions.

Now go away

8 hours ago, Willmoy1947 said:

Lets get you over and done with first. Condescending doesn't become you, and i will not engage in that.

Presumably you are in the know about how he is to play?

So the premise of the rest of your writings is null and void.

I know he's been rubbed out three times .

That's enough to form an reasoned opinion

1 hour ago, Fromgotowoewodin said:

Standard claim by those who reckon he’s undisciplined. You don’t know if he makes his bed and I’m sure you also don’t know what Goody and the coaches tell him to do on field either.

If there was a serious issue with the way he plays he would’ve been at Casey working on it in the twos at some point. 

The Cripps bump was silly but hardly outrageous, this one is not worth a and discipline had nothing to do with it. 

Of course if you were paying attention to what I  wrote you would note I balanced my frustration/ criticism with his genius in the ground ball mix.

I doubt he' d be going back to Casey,hes too important for that,more likely the leadership group would be pointing out that he needs to not be  missing games through lack of discipline. 

Still, carry on with your  MFC can do no wrong polemic and no critical opinions should be voiced.

3 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

I have similar thoughts but probably for slightly different reasons.

Since the evolution of tactics in AFL, from an '18 one on ones' style before the mid-2000s, we now have an ability to refine the gameplan far more to suit the philosophies of the coach and the personnel they have available to them. In that time (last 20 years) pretty much every good team has set that balance of attack and defence in a similar way ... except for us. 

2005 Sydney - defensive gameplan with great forwards (Hall, O'Loughlin, Goodes etc) and undersized defenders (Barry and Bolton)

2006 West Coast - attacking gameplan with great defenders (built around Glass and Wirrpanda) with ordinary forwards (Hansen and Lynch)

2000s Geelong - attacking gameplan with great defenders (Scarlett, Enright, Mackie, Milburn, Harley, Taylor/Egan etc) with comparatively ordinary forwards (Mooney, N Ablett, then smalls like Johnson etc)

2000s Hawthorn - defensive gameplan with great forwards (Buddy and Roughy) and undersized/ordinary defenders (Gibson, Gilham, Lake, Spangher etc).

2010s Richmond - defensive gameplan with great forwards (Riewoldt, Dusty, Lynch) and comparitively ordinary defenders (Rance for 2017, but just Astbury, Broad, Grimes, Vlastuin thereafter).

2023 Collingwood - attacking gameplan with great defenders (Moore, Quaynor, Howe, Maynard etc) and a bad forward line (Mihocek, Elliott, McStay).

 

We have been different, with our strength being our amazing defence (May, Lever), ordinary forward line but still going for a defensive gameplan. The reason why this is mismatched is because the marginal gain of May and Lever is small when you set up your team to protect them whilst, at the other end, you're asking JVR and Ben Brown to compete against the odds all game (which they aren't really good enough to do). 

As an example, Richmond beat Geelong in the 2020 GF because the game was tight and congested, with scoring difficult. At 3/4 time they led 46-44 (7 goals to 6), so it was hard to score. In the last quarter they kicked 5 goals to win it (Prestia, Lynch, Dusty, Riewoldt, Dusty). Between Dusty, Riewoldt and Lynch, they kicked as many goals as Geelong did. Defending was easy with the extra numbers - kicking goals against those extra numbers was hard and that's why Richmond's best players were the ones to do it. Conversely, Collingwood could get relatively easy goals in 2023 (Hill, Elliott, Michocek, Ginnivan, McCreery and Frampton had 19 contested possessions between them - about 3 each on average) because they kept numbers forward and relied on their more talented defenders to win the difficult contests. 

You don't need to make the job easier for your good players because they're going to win you more of those really important contests (like Dusty against 2 opponents, or May one on one against Curnow), so they don't need as much support. But if you can then use those extra numbers somewhere else to make it easier (like supporting Astbury in defence, or playing an extra forward to allow Ben Brown a 1-on-1 and space to lead) then you're helping them enormously. 

May and Lever may help a defensive plan reduce the opposition's score by 20 points, but an attacking plan could help our forwards kick 30 extra points because they need that extra help a lot more than May and Lever do.

 

tldr; Teams usually create game plans to add support where they need it most, trusting their best players to play well without support. We've given May and Lever too much support when they don't need it, and I am happy that we're now giving that support to our forwards (who do need it). Also sorry it was so rambling! 

Go to the naughty corner  you said Maynard was a " great" defender not a serial offender,a thug who should be charged and banned forever .

Everything else was interesting though.

3 hours ago, Willmoy1947 said:

I presume you have a reason for knowing that he is undisciplined?

Has he just come back from suspension for a tackle? 

Maybe it was just the  bias against MFC.

Get real pal, none of us know anything first hand and we can only post opinions based on what we see

3 hours ago, Willmoy1947 said:

I presume you have a reason for knowing that he is undisciplined?

I watch him play. 

I don't know whether he makes his bed or washes the dishes at home.

He regularly jumps at impossible marks rather than being waiting at the bottom of the pack. 

He jumps into body contact " tackles" when apparently Maynard should be in jail. 

Choose your own adjective.

I see" playing on the edge"s the go to club talk ," he's still "working on it" apparently".

Thanks for your  interest 

2 minutes ago, biggestred said:

I believe Maynard's was intentional as he'd been interviewed the week before saying he was going to make a statement and hurt people, but that's by the by.

I think kozzie deserves a week. I think it's not a good look for us to appeal. BUT

I hope we use "soligo moved into kozzies way" "kozzie was protecting himself" "he was just trying to smother" "it was a football act"

Just give it rest. 

Kozzi is undisciplined whether it's  "tackle/ bumps " or ridiculous leaps at impossible balls.

On the ground and in the mix he's a genius

On 01/04/2024 at 18:29, FearTheBeard said:

Dad and me always sit amongst the Crows/Port supporters in the Eastern Stand level 3 or 5 and have never really had any problems with them.

Perth and Brisbane we have had run ins with absolute twats.

They look pretty user friendly to me.

The abuse seems to coming from the internet

MacDonald  continues with commitment 

1 hour ago, deegirl said:

And the 7 commentators didn't mention it once.  

Brian Taylor  useless facile mistakes

Brian Taylor  reads from script

3 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Interestingly though, in his presser Goody said we need to improve and the only star he cited as example of why is inside 50s - he said we have lost that count a few times this year and we aren’t going to keep winning if we keep losing on the inside 50 count. 

Obviously they need to improve;  its looking like a red hot season and no weaknesses can be allowed 

10 hours ago, rodney_g said:

Looks like careless conduct to me, with low impact but was high. Should equal a fine.

No doubt won't cos Koz.

He's regularly pretty careless about many aspects of his game. 

Which is a pity because he can do  "stuff"

13 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

May's Hamstring in the GF was shot to bits couldn't jump, close down space to spoil, he was stationary and only useful in pack situations.

As a defensive unit like tonight relied on his teammates to get him through the game, we have enough quality to cover his absents.

 We can do this tonight. 💪

Yes they can do it. 

The test is whether the FD can marshal the structure so they do.

Same next week. 

This is a big test  very early in the season. 

They need to win one at least and be in the game in the other at worst 

On 25/03/2024 at 11:57, WalkingCivilWar said:

Swift? Pfft … I’d say he’s got the moves like Jagger. 🕺 or Travolta 

Only similarity with Swift is the moves come with 30+ others on the stage.

Jake's arnt scripted  ,rehearsed  on scheduled

59 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I trust you’ve also sent this condescending message to Ricky Lever. He was the one MOST certain he’d done an ACL. 

To be fair Levers legs are a constant worry ,as are Mays for that matter.

Both need mobility and closing speed as part of their excellence package.

Paranoia is also part that package I reckon

On 23/03/2024 at 19:57, Big Col said:

Petty went well down back and will have to play there the next 2 games despite training as a forward all summer.

 

Harry was undervalued as a back in the shadow of May and Lever and may possibly be overvalued up forward given the small sample size. It was a ( desperate) needs based move at the time 

Move him back while BBB can still get around.Take the load off TMac.

Time for JVR and Fritta to plant the flag as a regular working duo and for appropriate supply to be upgraded to  "elite".

Clearly honouring BBB's long leads is part of that picture as long as it lasts

Season defining fortnight imo

21 hours ago, dimmy said:

Up until just before 3/4 time I think Kozzie thought he was 195cm ,trying to take marks in packs. Stayed on the ground and he would have kicked 5

Someone needs to take him aside and explain reality to him.Maybe an           intervention from the whole leadership group.

Does his highlights package include one high pack  mark?

On 10/03/2024 at 11:12, rjay said:

If you think the FD don't know this and haven't tried to fix the problem you've got rocks in your head.

Every one can bang on about it as much as they want but what is the answer.

You can't make an in contract player just decide to come to us.

The only proven out of contract KPF available over the last few years was BBB and we got him.

Some other contracts have come up but their clubs know their value and have made it near impossible to pry them away.

 

It's difficult to understand why Hogan and that other guy went West then.

Tip..they didn't want to play for the MFC.

And then there's Grundy and likely Petty 

3 minutes ago, wisedog said:

Misguided endeavour with Grundy and bad luck with injuries to Brown, McDonald, and Smith. I wonder if we’ve done enough to search the state leagues? Someone to do what Podsiadly did for Geelong in their era of success.

I think we look the most balanced and potent with Petty and JVR forward. Seems to bring Chandler more into the game too. 

Incredibly unfortunate to lose Petty and Melksham late last year. Smith was commendable in the finals and so it’s a great shame that’s he’s probably played his last game for us.

Remind me how many games Petty played forward..

It's a speculation, not a solution.

Smith won't be an answer and that's not bad luck.

TMac and BBB..they have to suck it up and find alternatives...should have done it 2 seasons ago notwithstanding a few cameos that were never going to last