Cranky Franky

Dunno what happened here. I saw a couple of his Casey games & thought he was an absolute gun. Smooth, always seemed to have time, lovely disposal, quick & versatile. Something obviously went wrong - maybe he didn't listen to the coaches or had attitude problems.

4 hours ago, Maldonboy38 said:

He is our main spoiler/negater - a role he fills will efficiency and team awareness. Considering he was a fill-in for Tomlinson, he has had a superb year. His 2nd efforts after the spoil deserve special mention.

If Tomlinson comes back in, I would like to see Petty tried forward, which is where he trained prior to Tomlinson going down. He is seriously good in the air and could provide serious aerial issues for opposition.

Here we go again. Petty is a natural defender. Tattoo it on your forehead. He is a Defender.

Tomlinson would be a much better option as a forward. He played some very good games for GWS as a marking fwd.

3 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Subject to recovery of fitness, I'd like to see Tomlinson back on the wing - I think this is important to get Gus off the wing and back into the 'corridor' from whence his goodly fragrance emanated. I have a good deal of faith in Tomlinson and his play, his ground coverage and his 'space' awarenesses. It looks as though many consider that Petty will hold down CHB next season rather than trialling him up forward, and with the additional and rather recent team play coming out of defence, Tomlinson might be 'found' next season, out there on the flanks, in space and ready to take us forwards. 

You are a poor judge. Tomlinson was pretty much clueless on the wing. Looked by being a failed recruit until they put him in defence.

7 hours ago, tiers said:

The only fair way to compare players from different times is to compare them against their contemporary peers at that time that they played.

To compare players against players of another time is unfair and misses the point. All the players in the team of the century were the best in their time and deserve their selection.

Some players like Hardeman, Mann and Smith would likely seamlessly integrate in today's style of play whereas others, such as Dixon and, excuse the heresy, RDB, might struggle in a modern, free flowing running game.

It goes without saying that the incomparable Robbie would have been several classes above all others and a star in any era.

 

RDB would be a gun in today's game.  He would be an inside bull. An Ollie Wines clone.

11 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

B: LEVER, MAY, DON.CORDNER

HB: MCMAHEN, HARDEMAN, D.WILLIAMS

C: DIXON, PETRACCA, FLOWER

HF: MANN, WARNE-SMITH, LYON

F: MUELLER, N.SMITH, BEAMES

FOLL: GAWN, BARASSI, OLIVER

IC: BECKWITH, T.JOHNSON, LA FONTAINE, DENIS.CORDNER

SUB: SPENCER

EMERG: ADAMS, CHADWICK, MITHEN

I saw Tassie Johnson play and I reckon he is the fullback ahead of May.

May needs to play 2 more years of good football to displace him.

Melk played some great footy for us but his form dropped off particularly in 2021. 

Despite this he seemed to have a charmed life & kept getting selected & this grated on supporters. If he wants to play he needs to get more touches & especially make more tackles.

5 hours ago, bush demon said:

West Coast's last 'goal' from the 2018 GF has stayed with me since their premiership win of that year. How can blatant push-outs not be penalised. And that's because it's a grand final, where umpires by traditional custom don't get involved on the last day. We saw it again this year with Johannisen's double-handed 'speccy' plus plenty of others. It just goes to show that our code is basically ungovernable so you can put the whistle away. 

Disagree.  GF's should be umpired the same as any other game.

Under your scenario the spoil on Ben Brown would have been play on & not paid a free.

As for JJ - that was a clear mark - Jeff White took speccies like that his whole career.

Well done. Thought he had a shaky start to the year but improved and was pretty consistent. Needs to keep working hard as will have Bedford & Chandler (& maybe Laurie) snapping at his heels.

I wonder whether he will eventually find his niche further up the ground or in the midfield ?

23 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

More than interesting! Apart from anything else, he makes it plain that avoiding injuries is not luck, it was part of his method. It is so dreadful that we have lost this genius! We can only hope that he has been able to teach those with whom he worked.

To suggest that no luck is involved in avoiding injuries sounds plain silly to me.  Sure fitness & the medicos & rehab people play a role but look at Richmond they won 2 flags with barely any injuries in their AFL & VFL  teams then this year they had a swag of injuries & their teams struggled.

I thought Viney & Brayshaw were struggling to make an impact in the last 3rd of the season but both came good at the right time & both had outstanding finals' series.

Jack in particular has that touch of mongrel that every premiership team needs.

Anyone heard what's happening with him ?

I was very impressed with the small bits I saw of him at Casey. Had pace, clean ball use & good disposal.

I'll be surprised if we don't keep him on the list.

5 hours ago, durango said:

Simply a brilliant season and he is just in the prime of his football career, this is a great reward for hard work and dedication.

How he missed being a AA player is beyond me but am I biased or just a better judge.

Should have been AA ahead of Bailey Dale. Had a better season, got more disposals, marks & had twice as many tackles per game. Selectors probably worried there were too many Demons in the AA team.

2 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

The club was in a state of flux for a while re his 'concussion' issues and he didn't turn up to training for a while there  ... Peter Jackson at the time said something like, 'we will continue negotiating for only so long' ... seeming to be peeved with Lumumba ... he also strangely claimed he wasn't allowed to play to reach triggers in his contact ... all very odd 

Yes there seemed to be some shenanigans around his concussion & his contract & retirement. Think he maybe played 2 or 3 good games for us.

19 hours ago, old dee said:

Well behind I would think. I have watched him a few times for Casey and he has been average at best. The problem all players like him have had is that due to the lockdowns they have had almost no chance of developing over the last two years. Tough on all players trying to develop and stay on a list. 

I've watched him at Casey & he has been a lot better than average. In fact has played some really good footy for them. Unlucky not to get more chances this year.  Just needs to improve his disposal.

5 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Noel McMahen.  94yo.  95 at end of October. 

My late father said he was one of the toughest blokes on the team but a true leader.  Played in 48, 55&56 premiership teams. Captained 1955-56.  MFC team of the century half back. Life member. 

Never got to coach us unfortunately. Probably would have been a successor to Norm Smith 

I remember Noel from the Redlegs function that I was invited to in the 1990s.  He loved the Dees. So passionate.  So vocal.  Sometimes had to be “advised” to calm down given he was about 70 at the time.  

One of our greatest players.  

He must have been tough. I recall Lou Richards on World of Sport complaining that when he played against Melbourne Noel used to rough up the Collingwood players.

Only got the 1 game v North where he got 15 touches & went ok. Will struggle as a winger as Brayshaw & Langdon have the wings sewn up.

2 minutes ago, Nelo said:

Like most ANB. I thought his kicking was horrible. Massive improvement so I tip my lid to you. 

ANB & Spargo (like Melksham last year) certainly benefited from the coach backing them to the hilt & giving them every opportunity and good luck to them.

Spargo has had a golden run.  If Chandler or Bedford had got the same opportunities I reckon they could have had Premiership medallions as well.

3 hours ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

David Neitz

Neiter is 46 years old - doubt he would have got in ahead of BBrown

23 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

I made a list of former players who could have a premiership medallion if they had made different choices and/or if things had turned out differently for them:

Tom Scully, Jack Trengove, Jack Grimes, Jack Watts, Mitch Clark, Liam Jurrah, Jeff Garlett, Harry Lumumba, Jessie Hogan, Dean Kent, Mitch Hannan, Sam Frost, Stefan Martin.

Special mention to Isaac Smith for picking Geelong.

This was about players who over the last 10-12 years left the Club for whatever reason but had they stayed might have played in a Premiership side.  I reckon the cut off age is 35 therefore Brock Mclean & Jeremy Howe is are the ones I missed. 

5 hours ago, Ham said:

Exactly.

Such a moronic thread to start. 

Sounds like you're well qualified to judge morons.

I made a list of former players who could have a premiership medallion if they had made different choices and/or if things had turned out differently for them:

Tom Scully, Jack Trengove, Jack Grimes, Jack Watts, Mitch Clark, Liam Jurrah, Jeff Garlett, Harry Lumumba, Jessie Hogan, Dean Kent, Mitch Hannan, Sam Frost, Stefan Martin.

Special mention to Isaac Smith for picking Geelong.

8 minutes ago, bush demon said:

I think Alves had a falling out with Skilton, someone can correct me on that.

Yes he did. Wrote that senior players came to him requesting Skilton be removed. He passed this on to the committee, Skilton found out, blamed Alves & demanded he be sacked. The Club backed the coach & that was it.

I loved Alves, my favourite player till Robbie came.  A champion & regular state rep.

Misspelling both his first and last name is surely a new Demonland record.

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

He's a sniping [censored] just like his uncle. Plus he's an ordinary footballer in general. 

You want players to improve your team not make it worse.

Fully agree - undisciplined, gives away stupid frees trying to show how tough he is.

35 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Jake was unlucky not to be in the premiership team. Spargo kept on performing and just held his spot week after week.
 

I think Jake is looking for opportunities and a 3-year contract. Dees probably would cut his dollars in his next contract at the end of 2022. 

I would like to see Dees retain him but understand why he is looking elsewhere.  

He was lucky to be in the starting 22 for the second half of 2020.  Has been ordinary for over 12 months. Can't see us extending him after 2022.