Undeeterred

I'm due for a weekly change.

Of undies?

Changes to an absolute minimum and for injuries/rests only.

Nothing kills the winning feeling like being dropped...

Not sure why so many people are surprised at this.

He was always going to be our most important pick up.

When Collingwood were on a couple of years ago, Dawes was always more consistent and reliable than Cloke.

They are fools.

Of course he got advice on this disclosure and of course Essendon will get off.

That's why he's relaxed.

I am astounded that more is not being made of this. But, as usual, justice does not prevail.

He and his mates will be playing untouched for ever...

...is a badass mudder.

He'll be really good one day.

Just saying, but has anybody else noticed how good Neeld's draft picks have been, including rookies??

Absolutely. [censored]. Ridiculous.

Edit: spelled both absolutely and [censored] wrong. Bed time.

Anybody else aware he's played about 7 games?? How bout we suspend judgement until he's got 20-30 under the belt.

Poor Spencer, what an unco.

And as much as I'll get howled down, the video footage of the Dawes thing did look like he took it a bit, then sort of fell away in a different direction. Didn't actually look that bad, in terms of the connection, and disregarding the fact it was a blatant swing.

The Triple M commentary was pretty interesting. Every time Pedersen went near the ball, Garry Lyon went 'oh jeez' etc, and James Brayshaw commented on how good it was 'to see Jack Watts sit someone on their arse'.

Only 85 problems such as his lack of work rate, lack of physicality, poor tackling and general lack of desire to win a clearance but besides from that it should be ok.

Watts skill set - nice size, decent speed, skills and vision make him a loose ball out in space player. So that means half forward or half back. He's failed at half back, if we still with him at half forward we might get somewhere.

I disagree, although totally see your point about tackling etc.

I think Watts could be a great choice in the midfield, although we'd be exposed if he didn't get his hands on the footy.

However, wouldn't you say that size (including bulk), speed, skills (precise disposal) and vision are in fact the perfect skill set for a midfield ballwinner?

Cool story bro but your thinking to hard.

You're.

I got more than sympathy, the bloke bled red and blue. Brought up a supporter and did heaps of extra stuff around the club to motivate the youngsters like his boxing camp for Rookies.

He was also arguably the teams most vocal onfield leader, frequently firing up the boys during a match.

Leadership comes in many forms and Beamer definately had some leadership that was vitally missed.

Sorry, but you people are in la-la land.

Yes, he'd be playing for us. Yes, he'd still be playing crap, unaccountable, inconsistent football.

Hooray for him.

And as for being our most vocal onfield leader, spare me. I could stand in the middle of the G waving my arms and yelling. In fact, memo to the FD - here I am and I'll take a bargain basement wage of $200k to do it. Sign me up.

while yesterdays comment may not have been his brightest moment.

I have a little sympathy for BM.

He gave the MFC his best and I believe he would still be playing with us if not for the change to Neeld.

He feels vindicated, and after all he is playing in a better side were he feels valued.

His nemesis is unemployed.

Surely that says something!

BANG. This....

Beamer doing what Beamer does best - beat up on a sitting duck. FTB.

Yeah, Neeld was really wrong about him. He's totally tearing it up.

Jon Ralph is in the business of drumming up frenzy and calling it news.

Of course he is under the pump.

Jon Ralph just said that Neeld will come under the heat now and possible chance he still could be sacked withing next couple of weeks.

Thank goodness for the voice of reason.

They were bigger, stronger and more experienced but we had a crack. Unfortunately, what worked in the first quarter failed after that. The loss of Dawes affected our forward structure and we simply lapsed into a frenzy of self-inflicted errors of which Collingwood took maximum advantage.

Once we eliminate the errors, these games will be 6 to 8 goal losses. Get a few of those injured blokes back and we won't be far away from winning games against our fellow cellar dwellers.

6. Garland

5. M Jones

4. N Jones

3. Sylvia

2. Watts

1. Pedersen

Mentions to Davey, Terlich and Trengove.

A huge proportion of their goals when the game was there to be won were from burning ball going inside 50. We took the game on and looked really good, then turned it over in the corridor so that everybody (usually Garland) got caned on the way back. Once they cut those skill errors out we'll be right in games for much longer.

Neeld isn't going anywhere, you people are dreaming.

And this is not his fault.

These guys are playing for him and having a crack. Our problem is not structures, gameplans or anything else.

We just have terrible, terrible decision making and technical skills.

Ain't going anywhere.

We'll pay him a fortune to stay and nobody else will pay him to leave.

I did the old match up thing, and I can only find four winners for us in the starting 18 - Sylvia over Macaffer, Watts over Williams, Dawes over Reid and Nate Jones over Blair. And the last two are really a split decision and suspension of disbelief that Jones won't be run off by Pendelbury, Swan or Sidebottom.

I know they never match up like that, but it is a good 'finger in the air' measure of how things might pan out.

The answer: Not well.

As for Jack, he will never be the footballer he could be at Melbourne. The well has been poisoned and both need to get what is best for both parties (decent compensation for us and a good home for Jack) and move on.

There's a lot in this. And it kills me to say it, but he will be absolutely fantastic once someone like Malthouse gets hold of him.

I think it will be too wet to go too tall, and in any event we need running defenders to go with their smalls.

We just need to cover off on Cloke with someone (really think Sellar is the go here), and put as much run and carry in as we can.

Good on you for getting amongst it!

I would say though that when we tried Watts on Jono Brown he got absolutely, completely smashed. I doubt Neeld will go there again.

HI Guys. My first post but have been reading this forum for awhile. I would try Jack Watts on Cloke. He has the size to compete.

Tell him hes been recruited.

Absolute gold.

Sellar is the only choice. Pedersen too small.

Although Joel MacDonald is an interesting suggestion...