Undeeterred

13 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

I won't be changing my username. I loved him as a player. He very obviously had some demons, so to speak, but I believe we should have made a better fist of helping him. He was obviously born with incredible natural ability, but equally, he obviously was born with mental weaknesses. I am not going to criticise him for not being able to deal with what the world threw at him as a star: adulation, money, total lack of privacy, constant scrutiny and, as this site so clearly demonstrates, a public prepared to jump down his throat at the slightest mistake. These are things that an unsophisticated country boy can't be expected to deal with unless they are born with mental equipment that Clarrie clearly doesn't have.

I hate Geelong but I wish we had kept Clarrie out of scrutiny and judgment the way that they did with Stengle.

I wish we had kept him and supported him and got him through his troubles. Everyone I have spoken to who has met him has said that he is a really nice person. I will HATE watching him destroy us for GWS, but I wish him all the best for his footy life and the difficult times after that.

Oh geez mate I’m not sure they could have done much more

9 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Look I'm not here to argue that our club hasn't had multiple challenges or poorly handled issues since 2021, and I am certainly not here to take away from Trac's trauma or the severity of his injury.

But lets be for real, we are one of a small handful of clubs to have won a flag this past decade. Not only that, we are one of only two 'small' clubs to have won one, without the benefits of academy picks, bottomless salary caps, home ground advantages, the love and support of the AFL with fixturing or the MRO etc etc.

There are star players at other clubs who would give up their spleen to win one. Merrett, Cripps, the list goes on. Trac has not only achieved team success, he also achieved individual success with the support of the club.

He is also not the first player to deal with serious injuries, or worse terrible off field issues relating to mental health, the loss of a child, a terminally ill parent or partner, cancer, the list goes on.

At the end of the day, if you are a real leader, you stick it out through bad times and good. If you have no extenuating family circumstances, and you are still choosing to jump ship when the going gets tough, then it says as much about you as the club you are departing. See also Merrett, except Merrett hasn't won a flag.

The reason why we all raised an eyebrow when Trac made the comment about this being 'his job', is because we all understand that being an AFL player, let alone a star player, is not a regular job that the average joe has.

Not only has Trac achieved the ultimate success, he was also able to set up his brand, and his and his wife's future beyond footy while wearing red and blue. I don't think we have done so badly by him, and in fact many of the changes that have taken place in the last 12 months were things he expressed he wanted to see happen.

So let's not pretend like Trac wanting out for the second year in a row, is all about the club, and not in fact, mostly about him.

Post of the decade

4 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Gawny came 9th overall

Trac 23rd

considering our year - very good return!

And got robbed against St Kilda

12 hours ago, At the break of Gawn said:

I think if you compare Carlton and Melbourne over the last couple of weeks, Carlton's board made it very clear to Voss/Wright that their presentation was going to be used as a direct input to used to decide whether or not they continue with Voss or make a change.

For Melbourne, it seems that they lacked that transparency with Goodwin and here he is thinking he's giving a standard update to the board when he was actually supposed to present why they should keep him.

Just imagine having a standard catch-up with your boss at work, and then a week later told it was actually your performance review meeting and you were completely unaware and didn't get to showcase everything you've done over the last 6 months? That's what it feels like has happened.

I'm just disappointed with the lack of transparency between the board and Goodwin and I can't work out if it was deceitful, cowardly or just plain incompetence.

At Melbourne, it’s always best to start assuming incompetence and go from there

On 09/08/2025 at 10:07, Willmoy1947 said:

I was taught for ten years at an all male Christian Brothers School in a posh suburb in Melbourne.

The Teachers who I remember and was impressed with the most, in retrospect, were not Brothers, but were the two Lay Teachers that taught there.

Judging by the Pupils of our Premiership Team of 2021, Simon was a very good teacher of Men.

Lol. Give us more specific info - which one???

Absolutely disgusted by this non decision.

I hope the AFL’s payout to ex-players with CTE is enormous

if for no reason other than their absolute hypocrisy about this

10 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

First World problems.

They get paid close to a million bucks. Driving down the Monash every morning, I would do that without blinking if I am paid that much.

Well, sure. But if you got paid the million anyway, and got to drive to Collingwood’s facility instead, you’d take that all things being equal

On 05/08/2025 at 10:44, Supreme_Demon said:

John Longmire is my choice. But we shall wait and see.

We also need an entire clean out of our Football Department. Alan Richardson needs to go too.

All new assistant coaches.

The only ones who possibly survive would be Mark "Choco" Williams and Nathan Jones.

They would be my first two out the door to be honest

3 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

The hall monitor squeaks

Says more about you than me

3 hours ago, picket fence said:

If we want to win these things need to happen,

1 Rivers to Wear Fakeos

2 Chin to play a defensive forward game the planet of the apes look alike

3 Bowey to Hill

4 Disco on Tattoo parlour

5 Mids must have stellar games

6 FORWARDS TO KICK GOALS!

THATS THE FENCE MANIFESTO for a WIN!!

Seriously mods - you just can’t say that

Historically we are amazing in the wet. What could possibly go wrong?

On another note, my wife saw Max doing the shopping with his kids this morning in Coles - she said ‘wow, that man is colossal!’ He sure is, he sure is…

Would you prefer Max miss a few minutes of dead time or a full week somewhere down the track?

Gosh the carping is tiresome

3 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

Tmac was always an elite defender before he went to play as a forward. Issue was we were a terrible side then and his efforts were never properly recognised.

3 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

Tmac was always an elite defender before he went to play as a forward. Issue was we were a terrible side then and his efforts were never properly recognised.

3 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

Tmac was always an elite defender before he went to play as a forward. Issue was we were a terrible side then and his efforts were never properly recognised.

You must have PTSD related amnesia about the heart in mouth short kicks out of defence early in Tommy’s career. That was always a wild ride

Fair to say absolutely none of us saw that coming

Just now, Dee Zephyr said:

Best feeling ever.

Don’t think I’ve seen more of a pro at the Dees than T Mac. Exceptional game and Petty just reminded a few that he can play the game.

Just now, Dee Zephyr said:

Best feeling ever.

Don’t think I’ve seen more of a pro at the Dees than T Mac. Exceptional game and Petty just reminded a few that he can play the game.

Just now, Dee Zephyr said:

Best feeling ever.

Don’t think I’ve seen more of a pro at the Dees than T Mac. Exceptional game and Petty just reminded a few that he can play the game.

I see him walking his pram down Glenferrie Road with his newborn and he looks knackered. Kudos to him for turning up every week!!

17 minutes ago, Bowserpower said:

Good win but lost the last quarter yet again. Disappointing

Not sure if serious. Are you kidding???

Same old rubbish - rival list managers with the ear of the media softening us up to take [censored] deals for both of them at the end of the year

8 hours ago, Adina88 said:

"Against a nowhere team"? If supporters are calling for a coach's head because we're not winning every single quarter or every single game, then half the Club's supporters also need to go for having such little respect for the opposition. NO-ONE in this competition is a 'nowhere team' - not even WC. It's almost an effing miracle to get to a GF these days, let alone win one, and on any given day, any team can beat another. Disrespect them at your peril.

To be fair, you’d have to living under a rock to argue with a straight face that supporters are after Goodwin because ‘we’re not winning every single quarter’.

That’s pretty delusional.

2 minutes ago, Kent said:

As I and many others on here have said he should have been cleared 2 years ago

Many on here defended him when his performances didnt warrant it

So here we are with wasted 2 years and a damaged and under developed list doing what should have been done

The people who run this club are a joke

He was never going to be sacked 2 years after a flag with two top 4 finishes under his belt

We have no president or CEO - nobody is getting sacked

1 minute ago, Jjrogan said:

Easy up. He'snever been the silkiest user but he did it when it mattered most. Lets's not forgot that 'now and then'.

That goal from the boundary in the GF was up there with the greatest goals in GF history. But let’s be honest, if you stood 10 metres away holding a beer, you wouldn’t worry he’d knock it out of your hand.

Goody sounded super shaky in the presser. I feel acutely sorry for the bloke - he knows he’s done, and he knows we all know.

4 minutes ago, deegirl said:

Conceding two goals in the last minute was disgraceful

Was actually the last 20 seconds

1 minute ago, dees189227 said:

Trac missed that sitter to get it back to 10 then they just kicked on & we gave up 2 junk time goals

1 minute ago, dees189227 said:

Trac missed that sitter to get it back to 10 then they just kicked on & we gave up 2 junk time goals

May dropping a mark in the square and Gawn costing a couple of goals didn’t help either

And the list needs a massive clean out and recast with some run and carry and players who can kick it and hit the side of a barn 8 out of 10 times