Undeeterred

9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I would back the Ox's word

Except that he was wrong, wasn't he.

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Answer the question..

"Has The Ox got a 10 year + career at the highest level on which to base his opinions"???

YES or NO Satyr.....?

Entirely irrelevant. 

He was shooting off his mouth at the time and was completely wrong. His career v Saty's is absolutely irrelevant.

1 hour ago, grazman said:

Indeed- I know its a different sport, but in basketball it is a very serious offence.  

I've seen more out and out punch ups on a basketball court caused by tunnelling than anything else.

Doesn't matter that it is a different sport though, once you take out someone's legs and make them lose control of where their body lands, it opens up a huge amount of potential trouble.

2 hours ago, Demi Dee said:

This has happened a lot lately. Was it Vince who was dropped in the square last week, only for the umpire to step over him and ignore the incident  

I was pretty tempted to take one for the team yesterday, jump the fence and drop David Neitz who was in a Hawks tracksuit helping them warm up. Why are our Melbourne greats helping the Hawks, especially against us on game day. Clarkson, Yze, Neitz. I'm sure there are others, perhaps the umpires were old Melbourne players trying to exact revenge against the old regime. I'm sure I saw a pair of Hawks undies under one of their pairs of shorts. 

Cam Bruce too.

5 minutes ago, johndemons said:

The NO CHANGE brigade shouldn't be so quick to ascribe Hogan out as one of the causal factors in that win. It might have been a cause for us not winning by 55 points (No offence Pederson) Who knows. Hogan may come in and help us destroy Port by a lot more than if not. Pederson has some fitness queries doesn't he? Port will run him around.

If Hogan replaces Garlett and Pedo stays, then I think we need Kennedy in. Port are a running team and their win against us last time around was across the board, We need to bring the same effort from yesterday, obviously.

It's such a tough balance, because on the one hand you always try to make the team better, but on the other it's pretty hard not to reward the players who pushed through yesterday. 

I suspect Hogan will need another week anyway - they'll probably give him the week off travelling is my guess.

They'll give Hogan another week to recover.

There's no way they'll change the lineup after that win.

Just now, monoccular said:

You obviously missed Clarkson's presser where he bemoaned Hawthorn's young team!!

With an average of 196 games of experience or something. Laughable.

53 minutes ago, Dockett 32 said:

Eventually got home. Well done to all those who managed the magical mystery tour on the Lilydale and Belgrave lines.

Probably cost quite a few extra patrons.

Was initially happy to be there to see the Weeds first goal, but Big Max was in a world of his own.

Just got better and better, the combined midfield effort was relentless.

Viney. Jonesy,Tyson  and Oliver fantastic.

Reckon we should have won by more as we had a couple of real clangers.

Just a great day at the footy.

If it took you until 8.30pm to get home, the trains must have been stuffed.

3 minutes ago, old dee said:

A great one.

could anyone imagine "old iron hands"  pulling that one in?

No - it was brilliant. And all anybody is talking about is Rioli's 'mark of the year contender'. Spare me.

Pedo, for his absolute fucken screamer today. What a grab.

Went completely unnoticed after Rioli's much inferior mark, when the commentators collectively jizzed themselves.

2 hours ago, KingDingAling said:

Would be a top 3 back man right now if played there. Is a promising forward. Has shown enough to even suggest he is worth 1 million a year. Given he can play at both ends, I see no problem with offering the kid a stack. Buddy is on a stack, Rance is on a stack, and this kid can do it at either end. Not just forward, and not just back. Could probably even be a rover. I've seen him ruck our forward line effectively as well (at times). There is nothing Hogan cannot do. You don't go getting rid of those type of players. Not for Fyfe, or for anyone.

Agree. I'd give him a run at CHB and see how he went. I reckon he'd dominate.

9 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Why not?  It's not a negative thread.

I just can't understand why people want to all of a sudden start talking about which players will be going out, five seconds after the players who did play brought us probably the best win we've had in 15 years.

18 minutes ago, old dee said:

Read joeboy again 

Joeboy often talks a bunch of balls.

I assume you're talking about Garlett. He played down back and on the wing in a tagging role, and was much more involved than joeboy gives him credit for.

Just now, Wiseblood said:

Realistically, we will probably only see one change:

In:  Hogan

Out:  Pedersen

That's not a knock on Pedersen, but if Hogan is right to go then he plays.  I reckon Weideman will probably get at least one more week in the seniors.

Oh come on. Already??

2 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

She expects a limo at minimum mate.

I'd get in a Datsun for 6 months in Romsey with BBO.

2 hours ago, dees189227 said:

still ask why we cannot beat the saints and why we lost to essendon

Oh boo hoo killjoy.

2 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

I was a few goals out, but still...

You probably didn't take into account the 7 that were given by the umpires.

Just now, Unleash Hell said:

Agree not saying he is perfect just commenting that he gets unfairly singled out for his brain farts 

I agree completely. They're just much more obvious than, say, Kent stuffing up a kick going into 50.

Although Kent was great today too

On 8/1/2016 at 7:23 PM, iv'a worn smith said:

Oliver and Petracca are the future of this club.  We have seen what bad player management and development did to our kids in the past.  See Watts.  Thankfully he survived being bastardised in the past and is now repaying the faith.  I am confident in the way our Football Dept. is managing the kids.  Short term pain for long term gain.  We will get there

Just on that, can you imagine if Watts had rocked up to the current FD as an 18 year old? He'd be an absolute bloody star.

On 8/2/2016 at 11:32 AM, Mach5 said:

 

I'm happy for Oliver to continue getting 35+ possessions at VFL level as he irons out his weaknesses/deficiencies while there.
I don't want our young players learning that being good at one or a few things means you can get a game without having to be a rounded player that does the hard things too.
No room in this side for any more Jordan Gysberts...

Still want Oliver in the magoos? Sorry, but he is absolutely nothing like Gysberts.

2 hours ago, Stretch Johnson said:

How about the one handed pick up and give off in one motion in the last...

We haven't had a player like this before.

That was sensational. He's a beast.

2 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

23 disposals, and a team leading 11 tackles and 8 clearances.  Against Hawthorn. In a win. Turned 19 two weeks ago. 

The kid is special indeed

Some of those tackles were 2 in a row in the last, when we were a couple of goals up. It really kicked our intensity into gear. He's a leader at 19. 

10 minutes ago, Unleash Hell said:

Dont tell me you've turned dd haha.

The mistakes thing is over rated. Tom is an excellent young kpd.

We could go through games and point out multiple  players who miskicks and turnovers cause goals from turnovers from up the ground.

For some reason demonland only points out Toms

To be fair, he does have some absolute brain farts and, given where they occur, they often cost us goals.

But so did Kent last week, and Brayshaw this week.

Tom is clearly instructed to take the game on and when his kicks hit the target, we get out and it looks fantastic.

He is one of the best KPDs in the league, let alone for his age. He is just an essential signing.

8 minutes ago, old dee said:

I did not want to disappoint you Undeeterred.

Seriously this is a thread by Joeboy rating the players. I commented by saying he had vast majority right.

Sorry to upset your euphoric state. 

After all these years there is no one happy than me tonight. I hope you are too.

Oh I almost forgot who it was but I think you know.

Good. Roll with it.

I actually don't. I think they all had a red hot crack today.

Just now, old dee said:

IMO there was only one passenger today. But that is majoring in minors.

Agree with the vast majority of that joeboy.

Go on, old dee, name him and be done with it.

I'm not surprised it's you focussing on the one negative on such an utterly brilliant day.

49 minutes ago, deeko said:

Hmm you're making it sound like they are completely cooked. They are still premiership favourites and were a couple clear on top of the ladder after winning a few straight.

They are still a hugely popular destination club and once Hodge/Mitchell/Burgoyne I guarantee they will jag the best available free agents and continue topping up.

No way will they be a "rubbish team" for a fair while to come.... Unfortunately 

It will be really interesting, I think.

Often age catches up with players really quickly, and it seems that most of their older brigade are fairly marginal for next year (thinking in particular of Hodge and Burgoyne). Mitchell, Lewis and Gibson only have a year or two left I would think, after those two.

If their old players all crash at the same time, it leaves a big hole. They have a profile like St Kilda and North, in that the older players hold the team together. That's hugely different to teams like GWS, the Dogs and us, where the younger players are the ones pushing through and driving performance.

Anyway, Tom McDonald. Just can't imagine him not signing up to be part of this, and it will be a huge loss if he doesn't.

2 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Hogan- Not missed today.

Hogan - Center Half Back?

5 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Absolutely he deserves at least a week. Went in low, raised the elbow, player went off with a sore head.

Still, free kick Rioli. 

 

And let's just completely ignore the picking up the bloke with the ball by one leg and driving him into the ground. How is that not even being mentioned?

He's clearly been learning from his mates Hodge, Mitchell and Lewis.