Queanbeyan Demon
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1 hour ago, Mazer Rackham said:
Because it's like watching an alcoholic. He swears he's off the drink, this time really off it. He's seen the damage it's caused. He regrets it all and swears it won't happen again. He's sorry he bashed the missus and terrified the kids. It's happened for the last time.
Next week he goes out, gets smashed, bashes the missus, terrifies the kids, and next morning says how sorry he is and THAT was the last time. That was really the last time. No more. He's had enough of hurting the people he loves. THAT was the last time. No more grog, ever. He's off it for good.
Next week ...
We're the battered wives and kids and it sticks in the craw to hear the alcoholic swear he's off it for good.
(Another parallel: we loves ya too much to leave ya!)
Makes us all Al-Anonics MR.
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Typo1 hour ago, sue said:I really don't know what some people expect Gawn to say. Of course it means little. Given that he has to say something in this modern era, I'd like to see critical posters post some press releases here that are significantly better.
How about this Sue?
The players are aware we have a problem winning games we are expected to win. Our performances last year in Cairns were unacceptable. With a finals position on the line against two sides below us on the ladder, we simply choked. Some fans have accused us of 'drinking our own bath water'. Based on those performances in crucial games, they are correct. We let ourselves down but most importantly, we disappointed our fans . . . again. And for that, I say, on behalf of the players, we're sorry. You, the fans, supporters and members are the lifeblood of the club and provide us with a lifestyle most people can only dream about. And we abused your trust, support and love. For that, on behalf of the players, I apologise.
In 2021 we undertake to play a more accountable and disciplined style of game. This means further developing our individual strengths and minimising the influence our weaknesses have on the outcome of each game. For example, Jack Viney is committed to playing Aussie Rules each weekend, I'm gradually improving my goal kicking and hope to thread at least one per game this year and Maysie's target is to keep all the gorillas to two goals or less in each game he plays. All the players will be held accountable, both internally and externally, for their on field performances. To that end, Jack, Stephen and I will front the media each week, and on behalf of the players, answer for our performances as truthfully as possible.
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ClarityWe are no different to the racists at Collingwood or the exposed culture of entrenched sexism and misogyny on Capital Hill. Much of society, and by extension, the MFC, is completely blind, and contributing to, the normalisation of the abuse of women. This subtle but pervasive structurally embedded sexism is the personification of male power and control, which of course, is the root cause of gender inequality that manifests as domestic violence, rape, sexual exploitation, unequal pay and a plethora of other abuses. We are all implicated when we allow other people to be mistreated and patriarchal symbols such as the Australian Club are used to raise funds for our beloved club.
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ClarityI cut my Friday night footy watching by 50 percent when Dennis Cometti finished calling that game each week. I'll now only watch Friday night if the Deez are playing, and only with the volume down. Bruce, at certain times toward the end of his career, became a parody (mostly of himself), but this shouldn't detract from the brilliant broadcaster he was for the vast majority of his career. And he helped revolutionise the analysis of the game for seven years (1995-2002) as host of the original Talking Footy. To this day, the benchmark in footy chat shows IMHO. Good on you Bruce, footy can only be watched now with the volume turned down . . . that's the greatest tribute of all my friend.
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1 hour ago, forever demons said:
He doesnt fit the bill ,north dumped him for a reason,its like a hard rubbish collection why bring it to our backyard when it is discarded
Exhibit 1: Shaun Playford Burgoyne.
Exhibit 2: The Band Who Kew Too Much - Hard Rubbish Night In Kew
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10 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:
I think it is also about matchups. How do you take opposition structures and processes and find ways to leverage advantage? Teams worked the demons out (corral the aggressive cattle dogs) by outnumbering outside the contest. Geelong played keepings off from half back and opened us up like an aging porn star.
Each team will have its core way to play, and as we have seen, Richmond’s fierce pressure game was enough to beat most sides on most days. Once we develop a more robust and flexible game concept with the team we have compiled, it then needs to be shaped to take advantage of the opposition. Unfortunately, we have struggled to get ‘plan A’ going week to week (quarter to quarter) so it is hard to lift to the mighty heights of EPL until we get that figured out first.
Outrageous, but somehow artsy, bordering of tolerable.
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22 hours ago, Demons3031 said:
I've thought long and hard before deciding to post on this and thinking through the various views. I almost posted late last year suggesting we could look at Majak Daw when we made the move on Preuss and Majak was delisted.last year
I understand where people are coming from on this but in my view is that being delisted from a club is not an automatic stamping a players papers that that should not ever play AFL again. Clubs delist groups of players both collectively when refreshing and rebuilding lists and individually depending on circumstances including form, team balance ,injury potential etc.-each year and each case has its own individual characteristics and variables.
North made its list clean out last year for its own reasons.
I'm not sure being delisted is a statement on whether a player has a future in AFL or not. They may well still have a place in another club where they are just what the club needs.
Others will disagree but I feel more comfortable having him on the list than not. With the injuries we already have in the talls department, we are only a match incident away from major deficiencies in our team... and we are relying on Petty, Joel Smith and others to be injury free and contributing-this is not guaranteed. Petty has been out for a long time-though I think he has massive potential to lift us if fit and on the park.
Whatever you believe about our coaching situation in the past, I feel we are much better placed in that area this year-especially in game plans and getting the best out of our list. Majak has shown he has ability to be a really good contributor-those video clips show that. Its more the consistency and other factors like injury that might be challenges. But if he is happier at Melbourne than at North last year, who knows what could happen.
We do need strong types to take on the hulk and bulk of clubs like West Coast, Geelong and Richmond. Thats my pennies worth-(but am happy to go decimal if need be and make it two cents worth. :)
Good summation Brother.
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TypoWe should all be proud of the Club's announcement and receive the AFL's community award in 2021. Anything that keeps him away from Lulie Street it to be highly commended.
On an equally serious note . . .
My mate, who is mad Norf and understands the game, was amazed that Norf delisted him, not withstanding the injuries and other challenges Majak dealt with in 2020. His view was that Majak, when fit, was easily inside the club's best 22 players. He was appalled by Shaw's handling of him when coach (and I'm Shaw there's an untold story there as well). For all the reasons many have identified here, Majak:-
- can play anywhere,
- is well liked by teammates,
- is low budget impact,
- a good trainer, and
- happy to play in the ressies when the full list is available.
My friend says his best position is off half back and we should plan to play May across half forward. Means the $850,000 man will have to rise to the occasion though.
Can't say I see any downside considering the state of our list today. There would be a minimum of 30 AFL players running around in 2021 not as well credentialed as Majak IMHO.
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5 hours ago, binman said:
A fair point. He also ranked 10th in the league for marks inside 50 per game.
But my main issue with Sam is his intensity and effort. That's to say his lack of it.
A huge issue for us last season was our woeful pressure inside 50 and out inability to keep it trapped there. In our really bad losses (i'm thinking Port, Freo, Swawns and Dogs) the opposition just waltzed the ball out of our defence and up the field with ease.
Sure Weed is a big (pardon the tautology) and i read about his struggles, but he had only had six tackles for the season. Six.
The most he had in a single game was 2 against the crows.
And i'm pretty sure of those six, maybe one or max two were in the last 5 games or so, when our season was on the line and you'd expect him to be at his most desperate.
Compare that to Port's Todd Marshall, who i reckon is a pretty fair comparison:
One year younger, drafted the year after Sam, ten fewer games, similar position, a touch taller, a touch lighter and both top 20 picks (16 to Sam's pick 9). And he played almost the same number of games in 2020 (14 to Sam's 13).
Todd Marshall had 35 tackles for the 2020 season. Nearly six times more than Sam.
Marshall had the 18th most tackles inside 50 per game of any player in the AFL in 2020.
It is also worth noting that its not as if the other bigs at Port were not pulling their weight on the tackle front. Dixon had 18 (and Rozee, who to be fair is a mid size forward at 175 cm, had 16).
To be fair to Sam 83% of his tackles were inside 50.
The problem is he only had six tackles in total
With thinking like this Binman, you're in line for a seat on the Filth's board.
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2 hours ago, picket fence said:
Sheeit thats all we need! Why dont Richmond and Geelong cop this kind of bad luck????
Paaaaaark Me!!?
****mond did win a premiership with the best backman of his generation in the stands PF.
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21 minutes ago, John Demonic said:
I popped on sports day to enjoy some schadenfreude, but all I heard was Gerard Healy questioning how there could be systemic racism because Eddie and Buckley n others there have such gentle giving hearts. Gross to hear one of The boys club that works with him spouting that rubbish, so conflicted and ignorant. Not many in the AFL media prepared to actually go hard because they walk the same aisles.
They both pay the same piper JD.
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Clarity16 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:Is the 'top 200 players' a typo and you mean top 20?
Top 200 is not much to right home about...
No, it's not a typo LH. After scrutinising exactly what I wrote, and if one analyzes the data mathematically, it makes him a pretty good player. At a bear minimum, it puts him in the best 25 percent of players in the comp. And I suspect if one undertook further analysis of the raw data (e.g. the precise ranking of all his KPIs), he would probably be in the top 15-20 percent of players running around.
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I'm not a huge Viney fan . . . so last year I thought I'd go and have a look at where he ranks in the league on all the important KPIs that the league measures for its players. Here's the news: Viney is in the top 200 players in the league on 80 percent of performance indicators. He's got his deficiencies and drives many of us mad at times, but there's not a club in the comp that wouldn't have him in their best 18. And he'd be in the best six players at at least six clubs, based on his KPIs, IMHO.
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LayoutI wonder if the Club's sponsors will show any spine?
- Emirates
- CGU
- La Trobe Financial
- Nike
- PFD
- United
- Subway
- Heinz
- Carlton Draught
- Calabria
- Pure Storage
- Coca Cola
- Etc, etc, etc. . . .
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I come to 'Land when I want sane, accurate, thoughtful and well articulated information on the Deez.
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The Dorks versus Essenscum could be interesting. There's a strong chance one will loose by 10 goals. Imaging the angst.
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Typo2 hours ago, dieter said:As usual, quite a scientific analysis of the MFC. Not!.
In the period 1954 - 1964 when MFC won 6 Flags, played in 2 losing grand finals, here is the list of the leading goalkickers:
1954: Noel Clarke 51 ( Grand Final loss after finishing last the year before. )
1955: Stu Spencer 34
1956: R. Johnson 43
1957: A. WEbb 56
1958: Barassi, Webb 44
1959: Barassi 46
1960: Ian Ridley 38
1961: R.Johnson 36
1962: Mithen 37
1963: B.Bourke 48
1964: J. Townsend 35.
The Coleman Medal winners for this period:
Jack Collins 1954 Footscray 73 Noel Rayson 1955 Geelong 77 Bill Young 1956 St Kilda 56 Jack Collins (2) 1957 Footscray 74 Ian Brewer 1958 Collingwood 67 Ron Evans 1959 Essendon 69 Ron Evans (2) 1960 Essendon 67 Tom Carroll 1961 Carlton 54 Doug Wade 1962 Geelong 62 John Peck 1963 Hawthorn 69 John Peck (2) 1964 Hawthorn 68 For the record, only two teams won the Flag and the Coleman simultaneously: Footscray, 1954. Collingwood 1958.
Collins kicked 73 goals for the Dogs, Brewer kicked 67 for the E Coli Wobblers.
Also, as you can see for that 10 year period, the closest to 100 was Rayson with 77.
So, I put it to you, Mister whoever you choose to call yourself these days, having 100 plus a year goalkickers in the overall scheme isn't a symptom of anything much at all. There are always contexts.
I also put it to you that Lockett, Dunstall, Hudson, Quinlan, Ablett, Taylor, Roach, Wade, McKenna and Franklin were/are freaks.
Also, from the period 1968 until now only five teams have won the flag when their F/F kicked over 100;
1971: Hudson, Hawthorn.
1980:Roach, Richmond
1988: Dunstall, Hawthorn
1989: Ditto
2008: Franklin, Hawthorn.
It would therefore seem, that it's mainly been Hawthorn since 1968 who have actually benefited from having guns kicking their goals.
They've also won many other flags, especially the most recent ones, without the Cohuna Goalkicker.
Brilliant. Beat me to it by a couple of hours. Also saved me an hours worth of work. In fact I'd go so far as to say the last thing Melb want is for BBB to kick 100 goals in 2021. Almost guarantees we won't play in a granny, let alone win a flag.
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We should stop calling the coach 'the coach'. What does Goodwin actually do? Would love to see the position descriptions for the footy department staff.
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17 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:
With the full review, we have taken some big steps. If we can get the best out of Richardson, Williams, Goody and Yze, you would have to think that is a pretty strong group to lead the club. Getting these guys to have clearly marked out territories and actively supporting each other will be a challenge, but the potential is huge if it works. No egos, but a common goal of success will be nice.
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- Hogan, $cully and Watts are just misunderstood,
- Viney's disposal is good . . . his teammates just don't know where to run,
- Jackson is all potential, probably won't make it,
- Neeld should have been shifted into a head of coaching role,
- Daniher and Swooper under-achieved with rich talent and unlimited resources,
- I've got a soft spot for Eddie, Alan McAllister and Ranald MacDonald,
- Footscay's premiership wasn't a fluke,
- I'm really happy for GWS and the B#ms,
- The sooner Melbourne play more home games in the Territory the better,
- Collingwood should have beaten us in 1964 Granny.
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Wow . . . just wow! How specifically is Max more responsible than most for us underachieving over the past decade? There's another poster on here, Anti-Saint, who is of a similar mindset. What am I missing?