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The highlights are good but it is 1 match he does pull out whenever there is a contest for the hard ball he needs to gain at least 5-10 kg otherwise he will be dog meat at AFL or VFL level.

Jimmy Toumpas says hello.

He was offered a contract but declined the offer and we should leave it at that, he is wanting a new start and WC offered him one.

At least he played over 100 games for the MFC so any offspring may select to play for the MFC.

I think Andy Moniz-Wakefield has a higher ceiling than Toby but he did get a contract offer of 3 years so he must think that GWS will give him more opportunities sometimes players have to wait their turn al la Tuck at Hawthorn I believe he played many games in the Reserves before cementing his place in the 1st's.

Players listen to coaches who interview them and promise the earth so they will sign al la Jeremy Howe playing forward by Buckley and he knew he was not a natural forward.

Tyson Stengle was there to be recruited

All year I have spoken to several supporters and have told them that the fadeout was happening, they all thought I was wrong but the coaches were lulled into a false seen of security by results not facts.

When I was a young man I heard Norm Smith talking to some reporters after a premiership and he said that unless you recruit some fresh blood who is good enough to play in the 18 then you tend to go backwards the next year.

Unfortunately the MFC thought the improvement would come from within rather than improving the list, sometimes coaches have to listen to history and not put your head in the sand.

He reminds me of Schwarz when he started in the reserves a young colt who needed another 2 years of development.

Hopefully he wont be like LJ and return to mum in WA.

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

Paul Salmon says Hi, played mainly ruck but turned into a pretty good Key Forward late in his career!

Actually Paul Salmon played FF for Essendon and left to go to Hawthorn so he could play in the Ruck

Maybe everybody forgot Peter Moore who played ok and won a brownlow at the MFC, maybe Grundy could do the same?

Most of the Collingwood players we got were players which they did not need and unlikely to ever be All Australians past or future unlike Grundy.

Grundy is virtually a clone of Jackson but much older, provided the club does a check on his fitness and injury he should be good for at least 4-5 years.

Remember Selwyn was the fitness guy at Brisbane and his record is poor as the primary.

Fitness was poor this year no matter whose fault.

I have always maintained that there is less science in getting players fit and more hard work.

I believe that they should train like triathletes by swinning, running and cycling combined with agility work and football.

The main question is what type of person is LJ, if he wants to leave and get to Freo he would expect Freo to compensate the MFC with appropriate value.

If they don't he may chose to stay at the MFC rather than go to WC.

I believe Freo 1st this year and next year + Blake Acres may be enough to satisfy the MFC.

Kade is definately making a good case to play in the ones.

We are very thin in the ruck so losing LJ will be a kick in guts for the team since we need at  least another 2 ruckmen with Gawn heading to the twilight of his career.

I think we need 4 ruckmen on our list after losing Daw the team was left with part time ruckmen.

6 hours ago, Sydee said:

Having watched a fair amount of Casey this season I'd be shocked if Laurie was selected as wing - at this stage he does not appear anywhere fit enough for that role. Nor does he have great pace - what he does have is good footy IQ, evasive skills, great hands and good kicking skills albeit over shorter distance (the player he reminds me most of is Greg Williams - I know that is a stretch but just think he is the closest like for like. Whether he will ever get close to Diesel is anyone's guess - if he does he will be a very handy player)

If he get close a player the quality of Diesel then handy would be an under estimation of his talents.

I liken him to Greg Wells when he started.

I think Gus would not like to play with Gaff for what he did to little bro.

I looked at the NM game's final statistics and they prove my theory that the only stat that counts is the scoreboard NM seemed to win in lots of criteria but in the end it is meaningless against a team that uses the ball better.

The great Hawthorn teams were the same as the MFC their ball use was better and they won games where the opposition won the statistic count but lost the only one that counts the scoreboard.

1 hour ago, Fanatique Demon said:

I watched Footy Classified to see what Lloyd was on about. Yes, great to see that we are the yardstick. But that aside, it just proved to me (again) that the host is a rude and ignorant bully. His treatment of Caroline Wilson was inexcusable. 

I think Eddie everywhere has missed the point of a GF but believes there will be a $50 Million shortfall but the fact is football has to get the families back to watch daytime football which encourages kids to play and watch football.

2 hours ago, Deedubs said:

completely missed the point. We're not saying that you can't be a good forward unless your tall. We're saying that the majority of the best tall forwards in 2022 are 199cm on average. It's like all thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs. Not sure how what I said could be misconstrued.

I thought we were talking about Jacob not the current 199+ forwards I have noticed one thing all these 199+ forwards play well below their knees this is a result of players now work on mobility as well as marking at training so they can be multifaceted rather than the lumbering mark or spoil player who are useless once he ball hits the ground.

If you look at the NBA players like Ben Simmons are now guards at 211 not like the old days were guards were between 183-200. 

Some of the Great goal kickers in the AFL/VFL were not giants but use body and positioning to help them kick huge bags.

Abblet Snr, Wade, Pratt and Dunstall were not tall but used their spring or body to out position their opponents.

1 hour ago, Nasher said:

That sounds like one of those stupid things that football supporters say because they saw it once. It's a bit like Ed LaNgDoN iS a BuTcHeR from Freo fans when he came here - sure you don't want him attempting laser passes to a teammate who's swamped by 4 oppoonents, but by and large he is competent. At ground level, of course you'd prefer Kozzie, but it was never sensible to call him "useless", and he hasn't miraculously improved since coming to the MFC.

I look at Langdon and along with most good judges who have said his kicking has improved since Mark Williams has taken him under his wing.

Sometimes opposition supporter when a player leaves the club they want him to fail because he is no longer one of their players.

I look at May, Lever, Langdon, Tomlinson, Brown x 2, Daw, Dunstan, Hibberd and Melksham who in some way have contributed to the success we are now having.

A lot of those players have filled holes allowing the younger players to flourish and become AFL Standard along with some improvement in their own football. 

I am amazed that Jack Viney is the games record holder of a number that low at the MFC, well done and long may it go on.

My son-in-law supports NM and when we recruited BB he said he was glad he has gone because he was useless once the ball hit the ground.

After the grand final he said he could not believe how much BB has improved playing for the MFC.

We must be developing players well when a player on the cusp of 150 can improve his game in just over 1 season.

The fact is Jacob just turned 19 in April and may grow between now and when he turns 22 so how tall he will be in his prime is a question that no one can answer at the present.

Most football clubs rarely measure their players after they were recruited.