Moonshadow

Did he play every game? Might explain his high finish

21 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

It doesn't matter what your view is of the risk, or what your views of Covid more generally are.

The rules are there, follow them.

And that's it in a nutshell.

He agreed to the AFL hub and State govt quarantine rules. He's a high profile, well paid professional sportsman. 

When your dcik stands up, your brain sits down.

16 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The Bye is a Godsend for any side in the Finals. The Games should be better for it. 
i am still angry we didn’t make it

Imagine the impact on the team of Bennell's crisis had we made finals

Kangas going hard at Paul Roos for senior assistant

Didn't the club say it had room for a big name player? Hardly a 32yo that only played a handful of games this year. IMO we might get one decent year from him. I smell desperation here

ls he better than any other wing we have except Langdon? Yes, next year

Is he the future in that position for us? No

I'd rather see us go hard at Merritt or another outsider that we haven't mentioned yet. Maybe we are?

Clarko will be laughing his head off. I reckon they offered a cheap 2nd year knowing he was probably out the door, pushes another club into committing overs. Gets them more compo

FMD didn't we learn anything from giving Lewie one year too many?

If we do this, we will be suckers

If, if by chance Viney were to leave as a RFA, this Smith UFA recruitment would destroy any compo we might get for Jack. Surely the club know what they are doing?!!! Or does a UFA not attract compo anymore? I'm not sure

Jack better stay!

Are we there yet?

Asking for a friend

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

And who said we aren’t a destination club anymore..? 

Retirement homes are a destination as well

17 minutes ago, old dee said:

As you suggest absurd. 

Yes and no, Mr Old.

Players all agreed to the terms of AFL hub and state quarantine rules as part of their continuing ability to travel Australia and play footy. They are high profile, highly paid professional sports people. Doesn't seem like a big ask, especially since no one can be 100% sure they haven't come into contact with the virus. He knew what he was doing, must've known it was wrong, got caught

I'd call it low risk, but certainly not no risk

Let's not forget he has to nominate us as f/s before we can get access to him in the draft

But he consistently does well in the time trials? He's a dominating running machine!

??

I thought he always tried to avoid contact?

Only if we don't have to supply him with a zimmer frame. That's going too far

4 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

We’ll await confirmation from od but I think you’re around the money ,biffen ( you sleazebox )

Didn't see anyone with your fashion and make up sense, Uncle. Lots of conservstive brown and grey. I wonder how you would've survived those times. 

I'd give him two years

Top bloke 

32 minutes ago, TheoX said:

Trade him for one of the GWS first rounders that are OOC: O'halloran, Caldwell or Hateley whichever fills our needs most. They'll all have more talent than whatever we might get in the second round this year.

Think they need more than just Preuss to do that deal. Perhaps a second or third rounder included

That long handball from the forward pocket to Spargo(?) in the goal square was sublime and so unMelbourne-like. 

That's what made me stand up and want him to be a 100 game player for us.

Wish him and his family good health and happiness

Lets face it, Adelaide have handled players and contracts poorly for years.

No conviction, which shouldn't dissuade the Cats, but the Crows will leverage it. 

Crouch gets a strike and should move on ok. He'll be glad to get away from Adelaide.

No doubt the press and some supporters will turn this onto a storm in a teacup

Isn't Tracc a penetrating kick, A F?

He's very likely to hit the scoreboard more often next year IMO

Crouching crow, hidden powder

48 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Depends on the drug found and the amount. If it’s a small amount, first offence etc the legislation is they have to attend intervention sessions and not have charges preferred. It’s not above the law, it is the law. 

Bet you've said that once or twice before!

If he wasn't charged he's still a 'cleanskin', whatever that is, so it shouldn't alter Geelong's interest

57 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

Demands is a pretty strong word. I'm thinking of this as a more amicable handshake agreement between two clubs that are on good terms trades wise.

Geelong and Adelaide came to a similarly amicable arrangment over the Dangerfield trade when he was a RFA. Adel didn't force it and Geelong agreed to giving 9, 30 and Dean gore. I think danger was actually at the forefront of making sure Adel were well compensated.

Geelong would be happy only giving up 17 for Viney, Preuss and 47 imo as a combo and avoiding a matched bid trade, and we'd be happier getting 17 and AFL compo. Preuss is anywhere between a 20-50 depending how desperate a club is, so overvaluing him slightly for the sake getting us an extra 1st round seems win/win for both parties 

11, 17 and 21. That's port Adelaide levels of injecting 3 top class kids into a team over the current 16-22 ranked players marginally AFL/VFL level. Think Rozee Butters Dursma! 

Not as happy as giving up nothing for Viney.

Realistically, I've come to the belief that Preuss will get us a late 2nd rounder at best, which will end up at around 40 by the time bids are matched

I'd bare my rrse in Bourke St if Geelong agreed to your suggestion and the AFL ok'd it

9 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

Reposting an idea:

Just for arguements sake, Jack viney does want to go to Geelong. I wonder if we can trade Preuss and 47 to Geelong for an OVERS (Tampering?) pick like their #17, on the promise that we don't match the UFA Viney bid and force a trade, then we also get compo on JV in the first round too I assume.

 

Then we have 11 or 19 JV compo, 17* (Geel) and 21 (Haw)

Each trade has to be signed off by the AFL (Ken Woods?) as being fair and reasonable. This wouldn't pass the test, unfortunately, and i highly doubt Geelong would bend over that easily to suit our demands. They might well just turn their attention to Crouch, and we'd be left to kiss and make up with Jack. Why would we match and potentially force him to stay? We'd still likely get a 1st rounder for him.

But as I've said a few times, stranger things have happened!

2 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

$2.75 - $3 million over five years for Saad (in exchange for a first round pick) and $850,000 a year for Williams, they’re all yours Carlton. 

That's about 15% of the Blues cap in two half back flankers!

Appreciate the analysis Axis of Bob. Very clear explanation of the roles of each of our mids. Makes me value Viney even more.

If he does indeed choose to leave, I wonder if that might be tainted by the stresses of hub life in Qld with a newborn first child. He mentioned this in his B&F speech. Could well be a non issue, and obviously I'm just speculating, but it wouldn't be ideal separated from wider family at that time. Hopefully he takes the time in familiar surrounds back in Melbourne to think carefully and stay with us