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3 hours ago, Greg Schneider said:

2nd oldest team of the round, is interesting

And a little misleading given the average age is inflated by Maxy (almost 35), Melksham (35) and Tmac (34 in September).

6 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Clarry won't because we forced him out.

Different kettle of fish with "The Brand"

He forced himself out.

Alright, cutting of questions here. About to record the pod and then Andy will add the intro etc when he can.

But please note he wont be able to upload until tomorrow when arrives at his chalet after his jet setting

48 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I think Kentfield is ahead of Jeffo because he can second ruck and I think they want him in there for that soon. Ultimately I think our future talls will be JVR, Jeffo and Kentfield and it will be a good mix.

Agree.

I'd add that Luker is instinctively hyper competitive, and I don't think jeffo is. And all coached love natural competitors.

That daid Jeffo probably has more natural talent. I'm not selling my Jeffo shares yet

29 minutes ago, Watson11 said:

I was really surprised as well by those numbers as were were doing a lot of long handballs forward. @WheeloRatings How are total metres gained worked out. GCs numbers seem out or maybe I am missing something. It seemed off that they had more metres gained per kick and +316m gained by handballs but were the expected 268m less than us. But doing a multiply of their number of kicks by ave metres gained per kick and then adding handball metres gained you end up with 400 extra metres than what they had. Were they running backwards a lot or am I missing something.

1 hour ago, WheeloRatings said:

Gold Coast had 188 kicks but I could only calculate the distance of 187 of them (without looking into that, it could be a kick on the siren where the result of the kick wasn't recorded). The gained 5220 metres by kick (187 x 27.9) + 379 by hand = 5599m. They gained a total of 5851 metres so an additional ~252m running.

Re handball metres gained, I can at least confirm that none of the stats are typos as it's all generated automatically using a consistent methodology (pressure is one exception where I transcribe the stats from the Herald Sun). By my calculations, Melbourne had 70 handballs which gained territory amounting to 295 metres gained. 22 of these gained at least 5 metres. The remaining 61 handballs lost 232 metres. For Gold Coast, 102 handballs gained a total of 637 metres, and 61 lost 258 metres.

Here are the estimated total handball distances and metres gained per Melbourne player yesterday. I should reiterate that these are my calculations, not official Champion Data numbers. From what I have seen, CD's handball metres gained numbers are generally a higher than mine, but my overall calculated metres gained are very close to CD's so it may be a methodology difference or the way that handball location (origin/destination) are recorded in the data set I use. I haven't manually cross-checked individual handballs against live vision to see how they're recorded, but maybe I will investigate that further at some point.

Player	HB	Distance	Metres Gained
Max Gawn	11	84.6	43.2
Tom Sparrow	10	76.5	32.1
Kade Chandler	9	57.5	26.7
Bailey Laurie	5	46.4	18.6
Jai Culley	2	19.1	17.0
Kysaiah Pickett	7	53.0	9.2
Blake Howes	7	62.3	8.3
Ed Langdon	4	23.2	7.2
Daniel Turner	3	20.2	6.8
Jacob van Rooyen	6	34.0	6.5
Harrison Petty	2	17.9	2.4
Caleb Windsor	6	29.5	0.4
Jake Lever	1	2.2	0.4
Xavier Lindsay	6	64.3	−5.6
Tom McDonald	4	19.5	−8.6
Harry Sharp	6	39.4	−8.8
Jake Melksham	4	34.9	−9.9
Latrelle Pickett	3	21.8	−10.3
Christian Salem	7	39.7	−11.4
Harvey Langford	5	29.3	−12.6
Koltyn Tholstrup	7	48.9	−14.6
Jack Steele	16	87.6	−34.3

I watched the replay and we def hanballed backwards and laterally more often than we have been

I reckon there's no doubt it was tactical.

Despite what they were saying on the commentary, the Suns, as evidenced by theie 300 us metres gained by and, were still using lots of forward handball. But we were super focused on pressing up on the receiver and often stopped or disrupted their forward flow.

That was supported by the squeeze we are putting on our opponents, with the defenders pressing right up when the opponent is trying to transition from the back half, and the forwards also squeezing up in that scenario. So often.the Suns found them.in congestion with no great options forward or back. And they are not a precision kicking team like the lions (their game plan is very similar to ours it it's focus on territory and winning contests inside 50).

But they couldn't do that to us, which I'd bet my bottom dollar they planned to, because we weren't doing our normal long forward handballs.

Instead we often went long by foot, and often to a contest. I reckon that was a tactic, supported really stretching their defence by putting Petty up forward the second half, having Lanford push into the forward line as a marking option, ditto for Culley.

We negated some if their key strengths- not only did we frustrate their ability to transition the ball, by doing so they couldn't get their overlap handball going in way that creates space inside their 50 and lots of one on one contests (the one where King outmarked Tmac on the lead was the perfect example of how they like to move the ball from the back half and create space inside 50, a method that had neen.the key ro their high scoring this season - but that King mark was very much the exception to the rule yesterday)

In many ways, apart fom how quickly players moved the ball on after a mark, with the focis on territory and winning contests, clearances and stoppages, yesterday was more similar to the method we used in 2021 - 2023 than our method in the preseason and first 3 games.

1 hour ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

He would have copped it for sure.

You're probably right.

The funny thing is Claz probably won't, and really, Claz deserves more Demon angst than Tracc.

Sure Tracc wanted out, but we got 3 first rounders in the trade and his massive salary of our books. And its not as if he didn't play well for us last season.

I always loved Claz, but bottom line is pre his hammy related melt down, with his off field stuff he was super high maintenance. And once injured, he was totally unprofessional in how he managed it for the rest of that season (before being kicked out of the Anglesea preseason camp and told to go away and decide if we wanted to play AFL football)

Yes, I believe he was struggling with mutiple issues, and I think the club did the right thing by supporting him to address them. And he did seem to do the hard yards to get to netter place, played pretty well too in his last two seasons.

But he's gone, we got nothing for him tradewise and have to pay half his million dollar salary for the next 5 years.

1 hour ago, whatwhat say what said:

shirley sinnema = box office or boxy for short?

🍿?

1 hour ago, Maldonboy38 said:

The Bombers had a red hot go at the Dogs in the 2nd half and their pressure was outstanding. No way will this game be a cruise for us, and the South Australian grounds are normally smaller so will suit a less skilled team.

I love Petty as 2nd ruck. He was competitive in the air and adds another body at ground level.

As good as Luker was at Casey, his game was not AFL-worthy.

I feel sorry for Laurie who I thought played a good role yesterday, but is first in line to be dropped if Fritsch is ready to return. If Fritsch isn't ready, no change for me.

I am a huge Trent rivers fan, but did we miss him yesterday? Did we miss Jiath? Salem, Lindsay and Kolt worked so well with Lever Petty and TMac I would let them settle and build as a unit.

Agree, we have to be switched on, though I'd be beyond disappointed if we weren't (and very surprised) - we're a long, long way from being in a position to take any team lightly.

I expect we'll come out firing. Maxy in his interview on the ground after the game mentioned the bombers beating us the last 3 times in Gather round and that we owe them.

By the by, we're ay at Adelaide oval, which is aprox the same size as the G

51 minutes ago, picket fence said:

HTS = Sinnema

I'm sorry picket, but as a card carrying member of IPS (International Pedant Society), I have to say that makes no @$%@&^ sense!

The Nova? Sure. The Astor? Absolutely. Village? OK.

But Home Theatre System as a play on Cinema? Nup.

I mean a home theatre is almost literally the opposite of a cinema!

1 minute ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Talking of crowd noise.

There was zilch for GCS in play or after goals at least that is how it seemed from the Southern Stand and their Temu cheer squad was at the city end.

I watched a few minutes of the replay to see how it sounded on tv. The broadcasters are doing thier covid thing of inserting fake crowd cheering/noise.

No wonder they have a poor track record interstate - their is no-one cheering for them and they have to endure the roar of op fans.

It will cost them gains 😁 and yesterday it cost them momentum but not the game!

Conversely rhe crowd noise by dees fans at the ground was incredible given there was only 24k there.

I watched the replay last night and the noise really came accross on the TV, particularly the booing, so much so the commentators mentioned it several times.

On booing i heard a few people around me say they would have booed tracc, which to be honest surprised me a bit (ie the angst towards him). With the mood the crowd was in he may well have copped some serious booing.

And on the Suns crowd, i was sitting in the Olympic stand in an all Melbourne bay. The seats in the bay next to me, normally the seats for the President's lunch, looked like it had all been sold to Sund fans.

The next bay along was all Melbourne reserved.

Means the Suns fans were smack bang in the middle of loud demon fans going off.

Welcome to the G.

11 minutes ago, Bowserpower said:

Great win.

On the right track but can we chill out over finals talk? People getting ahead of themselves again

I might have missed them, but had there been many posts seriously discussing finals?

3 hours ago, WheeloRatings said:

Melbourne v Gold Coast (Round 4, 2026)

https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_match_stats.html?ID=20260406

Key Team Stats

Stats in bold were won by Melbourne.

Stat	For	Against	Diff	2026	2025	AFL
Disposal Efficiency
Disposal Retention	68.9	75.7	-6.8	68.9	70.5	71.0
Disposal Efficiency	68.6	78.6	-10.0	70.0	73.2	73.7
Kicking Efficiency	65.2	75.0	-9.8	64.6	67.8	67.4
Kick Into Forward 50 Retention	48.0	46.2	+1.8	48.5	46.2	47.4
Metres Gained
Kick Metres Gained	5488	5220	+268	5709.4	5545.5	5651.3
Kick Metres Gained / Kick	26.1	27.9	-1.8	26.7	26.2	26.3
Handball Metres Gained	63	379	-316	224.0	169.1	216.3
Territory/Attack
Time In Forward Half	52.6	47.4	+5.2	52.5	51.4	50.0
Inside 50s	59	45	+14	59.0	52.8	53.7
Shots At Goal	30	22	+8	29.5	26.4	27.5
Scores / Inside 50	49.2	42.2	+6.9	44.1	45.1	46.4
Goals / Inside 50	27.1	31.1	-4.0	25.0	22.3	24.4
Marks Inside 50	19	14	+5	15.2	10.9	12.3
Transition
Chain To Score %	26.9	19.6	+7.3	23.1	21.5	22.2
Defensive 50 To Forward 50 %	31.2	33.3	-2.1	27.2	24.4	23.2
Defensive 50 To Score %	18.8	13.3	+5.4	13.3	9.7	9.9
Defensive Half To Forward 50 %	33.3	40.0	-6.7	33.5	31.1	31.7
Defensive Half To Score %	19.3	15.4	+3.9	15.4	12.6	13.3
Contest
Contested Possessions	138	116	+22	128.5	135.2	127.5
Ground Ball Gets	87	86	+1	83.8	87.3	84.4
Post Clearance Contested Poss	84	83	+1	80.8	82.7	80.9
Post Clearance Ground Ball Gets	60	62	-2	59.8	56.7	57.2
Contested Marks	11	9	+2	9.2	10.5	8.5
Clearance
Total Clearances	39	28	+11	36.2	36.8	35.1
Centre Clearances	18	9	+9	15.2	12.8	13.2
Stoppage Clearances	21	19	+2	21.0	24.0	22.0
First Possessions	51	24	+27	40.5	42.3	38.0
First Possession To Clearance %	74.5	79.2	-4.7	71.6	72.3	74.7
Defense
Intercepts	64	59	+5	65.8	64.8	66.9
Intercept Marks	12	9	+3	16.2	16.3	14.0
Tackles	59	54	+5	59.5	57.2	54.7
Tackles Inside 50	13	6	+7	9.0	11.4	10.2
Def One On One Loss %	54.5	40.0	+14.5	43.2	27.9	27.0
Ruck
Ruck Contests	89	87	+2	92.2	92.2	86.8
Hitouts	42	27	+15	47.0	41.1	34.2
Hitouts To Advantage	14	4	+10	12.8	11.5	10.3
Equity Points
Pre Clearance	48.4	21.5	+26.9	39.1	33.3	33.0
Post Clearance	133.5	153.7	-20.3	132.1	115.9	123.6
Ball Winning	117.0	99.3	+17.7	113.8	112.5	110.1
Ball Use	65.0	86.6	-21.6	60.3	39.6	49.3

Transition stats measure how often chains result in a score or an inside 50. Chains include all kick-in chains, all clearances, and intercepts with at least one disposal in the chain.

• Chain To Score %: proportion of all chains that resulted in a score.

• Defensive 50 To Forward 50 %: proportion of all chains starting in the defensive 50 that resulted in an inside 50.

• Defensive 50 To Score %: proportion of all chains starting in the defensive 50 that resulted in a score.

• Defensive Half To Forward 50 %: proportion of all chains starting in the defensive half that resulted in an inside 50.

• Defensive Half To Score %: proportion of all chains starting in the defensive half that resulted in a score.

Equity is the WheeloRatings implementation of the AFL Player Ratings.

• Ball Winning: Equity points from winning possession of the ball.

• Ball Use: Equity points from disposal, including shots at goal, and carrying the ball.

Player Ratings

	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4	Match	TOG	Ball Win.	Ball Use
Jack Steele	4.3	5.6	6.7	7.8	24.4	77%	11.6	5.8
Max Gawn	4.2	8.2	6.0	5.9	24.3	82%	11.9	1.0
Kysaiah Pickett	2.1	8.3	3.7	7.9	22.0	80%	6.9	14.5
Tom Sparrow	1.3	2.8	7.8	3.1	15.0	68%	4.8	3.8
Kade Chandler	3.3	5.5	0.6	3.6	12.9	76%	5.9	4.8
Brody Mihocek	4.2	6.4	0.0	0.9	11.5	84%	5.0	4.5
Latrelle Pickett	1.3	3.2	2.4	4.1	11.1	65%	4.0	4.8
Christian Salem	6.8	−2.1	3.8	1.7	10.2	77%	5.3	5.3
Harry Sharp	2.1	1.9	3.3	2.7	10.0	74%	2.2	7.9
Harvey Langford	1.3	4.1	0.4	3.8	9.7	67%	4.5	4.7
Jake Melksham	1.7	5.2	3.3	−0.6	9.5	84%	4.1	5.4
Blake Howes	2.7	3.8	0.2	2.2	9.0	80%	3.6	1.8
Koltyn Tholstrup	0.3	3.9	2.8	1.5	8.6	78%	5.0	−1.0
Jacob van Rooyen	1.9	5.0	1.0	0.2	8.1	78%	6.9	0.1
Xavier Lindsay	2.1	1.0	2.1	2.5	7.6	77%	4.0	1.1
Caleb Windsor	0.9	1.2	2.0	3.4	7.4	75%	4.3	0.1
Jai Culley	−0.2	0.9	2.8	3.2	6.7	75%	6.9	−0.2
Tom McDonald	1.8	0.8	1.0	2.3	6.0	96%	5.3	0.5
Ed Langdon	3.3	0.2	3.8	−1.9	5.5	84%	3.4	2.9
Jake Lever	1.8	2.9	0.0	−0.5	4.1	86%	2.6	−0.1
Daniel Turner	0.8	2.2	0.9	−0.7	3.2	95%	2.9	−2.1
Bailey Laurie	3.1	−0.9	−0.9	0.5	1.7	60%	1.1	0.3
Harrison Petty	−1.0	−0.3	3.4	−0.4	1.6	82%	4.8	−0.7

Contested Possessions

	For	Against	Diff
Melbourne's Defensive 50
Hard Ball Get	3	6	-3
Loose Ball Get	19	10	+9
Contested Mark	2	4	-2
Gather From Hitout	1	0	+1
Free For	3	1	+2
Total	28	21	+7
Melbourne's Forward 50
Hard Ball Get	2	7	-5
Loose Ball Get	11	17	-6
Contested Mark	4	2	+2
Ruck Hard Ball Get	2	1	+1
Gather From Hitout	2	1	+1
Free For	1	3	-2
Total	22	31	-9
Post clearance
Hard Ball Get	14	18	-4
Loose Ball Get	46	44	+2
Contested Mark	11	9	+2
Contested Knock On	3	0	+3
Free For	10	12	-2
Total	84	83	+1
Pre clearance
Hard Ball Get	7	4	+3
Loose Ball Get	20	20	0
Ruck Hard Ball Get	7	2	+5
Gather From Hitout	11	4	+7
Contested Knock On	1	1	0
Free For	8	2	+6
Total	54	33	+21

• Official data on pre- and post-clearance contested possessions are not available. These have been estimated by Wheelo Ratings and should be indicative.

• Ground ball gets are inclusive of hard ball gets and loose ball gets.

• 'Free For' does not include free kicks to advantage or free kicks while in possession of the ball as these are not counted as contested possessions.

Expected scores

	xScore	Score	xWin %	xMargin	Margin	Swing
Melbourne	105.1	109	97%	+30.4	+20
Gold Coast	74.7	89	3%			+10.4

	Shots	Score	Accuracy	xScore	+/-
Overall
Melbourne	30	16.11 107	53.3%	103.1	+3.9
Gold Coast	22	14.4 88	63.6%	73.7	+14.3
General Play
Melbourne	11	4.4 28	36.4%	30.9	−2.9
Gold Coast	6	3.0 18	50.0%	18.0	+0.0
Set Position
Melbourne	19	12.7 79	63.2%	72.2	+6.8
Gold Coast	16	11.4 70	68.8%	55.7	+14.3

• xWin %: win probability based on expected scores.

• Swing: difference between expected margin and actual margin.

• xScore: total expected score from all shots taken.

• +/-: total score above or below expected score.

• xSc. / Shot: average expected score per shot. This represents the average shot difficulty.

• Shot Rating: average score above or below expected score per shot at goal.

Notes: Expected scores are calculated by Wheelo Ratings. Each shot at goal is assigned an expected score based on the distance from goal, shot angle, and type of shot (e.g. set shot, general play following contested possession, general play following uncontested possession, ground kick, etc) as a proxy for pressure. The model does not take into account factors like the player, whether the ball was kicked with their preferred or non-preferred foot, and pressure on the player when taking the shot. Rushed behinds are excluded from actual and expected scores.

Territory (time in zones)

Region	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4	Match	Season
Half
Forward	59%	40%	54%	58%	53%	52%
Defensive	41%	60%	46%	42%	47%	48%
Region
Forward 50	30%	22%	27%	27%	27%	25%
Attacking Midfield	29%	18%	27%	31%	26%	28%
Defensive Midfield	22%	35%	24%	21%	26%	24%
Defensive 50	19%	25%	22%	21%	22%	24%

Source: Calculated by Wheelo Ratings.

Score Sources

Summary

Score Source	xChainScore	Score	Diff
Melbourne
Kick-in	1.7	0.1 1	-0.7
Centre Bounce	16.8	3.3 21	+4.2
Stoppage (Other)	22.0	5.3 33	+11.0
Turnover	44.7	8.6 54	+9.3
Opposition
Kick-in	4.5	1.0 6	+1.5
Centre Bounce	8.4	1.0 6	-2.4
Stoppage (Other)	14.0	5.0 30	+16.0
Turnover	36.3	7.5 47	+10.7
Diff
Kick-in	-2.8	-5
Centre Bounce	+8.4	+15
Stoppage (Other)	+8.0	+3
Turnover	+8.4	+7

xChainScore: expected points scored based on the origin of a team’s chains, including clearances, turnovers, and kick-ins.

Score Source	For		Against
	Match	Season	Match	Season *
Kick-in	1	8.2	6	5.0
Centre Bounce	21	12.0	6	11.0
Stoppage (Other)	33	25.8	30	33.2
Turnover	54	53.8	47	48.5

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Gold Coast.

Chain start region

Note: region is from the scoring team's perspective.

Region	For		Against
	Match	Season	Match	Season *
Defensive 50	26	21.5	21	20.5
Defensive midfield	20	18.2	24	19.2
Centre bounce	21	12.0	6	11.0
Attacking midfield	27	33.0	32	28.5
Forward 50	15	15.0	6	18.5

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Gold Coast.

Points from defensive half

For		Against
Match	Season	Match	Season *
46	39.8	45	39.8

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Gold Coast.

Centre Bounce Attendances

	CBAs	CBA %	2026 %	2025 %
Max Gawn	27	82%	83.7%	85.5%
Kysaiah Pickett	27	82%	67.4%	69.0%
Jack Steele	25	76%	74.4%	74.3%
Caleb Windsor	25	76%	57.4%	12.1%
Tom Sparrow	22	67%	48.1%	6.6%
Harrison Petty	6	18%	10.9%	0.4%
Koltyn Tholstrup	0	0%	23.3%	0.0%
Harvey Langford	0	0%	6.2%	9.9%
Jacob van Rooyen	0	0%	4.7%	13.4%
Jai Culley	0	0%	4.7%	0.0%
Kade Chandler	0	0%	2.3%	1.1%
Xavier Lindsay	0	0%	1.6%	0.4%
Christian Salem	0	0%	0.8%	1.5%
Brody Mihocek	0	0%	0.0%	0.2%
Daniel Turner	0	0%	0.0%	0.2%
Ed Langdon	0	0%	0.0%	3.1%
Jake Melksham	0	0%	0.0%	0.2%
Trent Rivers			28.4%	19.9%

Ruck Contests and Hitouts

Ruck Contests

	Ruck Contests	RC %	2026 %	2025 %
Max Gawn	60	67%	76.2%	81.5%
Harrison Petty	20	22%	9.5%	2.8%
Jacob van Rooyen	8	9%	10.6%	15.0%
Brody Mihocek	1	1%	2.2%	2.7%
Jai Culley	0	0%	1.6%	0.0%
Daniel Turner	0	0%	0.0%	0.2%

Hitouts

	Ruck Contests	Hitouts	To Adv.	To Adv. % (2026)	To Adv. % (2025)
Melbourne
Max Gawn	60	32	13	29.2%	27.8%
Harrison Petty	20	8	0	20.0%	23.6%
Brody Mihocek	1	1	1	50.0%	45.4%
Jacob van Rooyen	8	1	0	6.7%	30.3%
Opposition
Jarrod Witts	72	21	4
Jed Walter	12	4	0
Mac Andrew	3	2	0

Thanks @WheeloRatings . Is the handball metres gained for us right?

If yes, points to clever coaching by King I reckon as our forward handball has been a notable feature of our game this season, averaging high 200s metres gained by hand coming into this game (Suns are #1 average something like 420 metres gained by hand)

We only had 63 in this match, which had to be due to an instruction an tactic

I wonder if Matthew Lloyd thinks were still a 'poor side'.

What a peanut

7 hours ago, dees189227 said:

Just finished watching kings presser & the match highlights.

Gee the Suns players at times were demonstrative with each other

Yep super evident at the ground.

We pulled apart their defensive structure and made it really hard for them to transition the ball and enter 50 cleanly. And they were gettimg very frustrated

1 hour ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

To be fair I thought Hardwick spoke well in his post game press conference. Full of praise for us and offered no excuses citing his mids were soundly beaten.

Agree. And I can't stand him.

Explains why they lost/we won in the first couple of minutes super clearly.

Contest, clearance, stoppages.

And the dees aree good team with a blend of good senior players and talented young players, playing a difficult to defend game plan that is reconisable

51 minutes ago, P-man said:

I love everyone!

Even Williamson?

49 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Brilliant, hard fought, fast

Won the Contested Possession, Clearances, Tackles

And beat than fn k 22 Williamson

I dont want to be Debbie Downer, but jeez that bloke is a dead set plonker.

Always seems to crucify, but that might be confirmation bias

But my big issue with him is its like he always wants to impose himself on the game.

21 hours ago, BDA said:

Just listened to Kingy on the ABC footy podcast

He reiterated the meeting was well intentioned and didn’t mean to cause any distress or offence

The interviewer asked him if there was now a trust issue but he batted that away.

I doubt we’ll hear too much more about this

I just heard that excerpt - what a stupid question given that it followed King saying senior players suggested the meeting and that it was well intentioned. Why would there be a trust issue?

Perhaps raises some convern about competence od the FD, but trust? Nah.

If there's Amy trust issue it would be players and partners wondering who they can't trust to keep things in house and not leak to Tom Morris (who by the by, I don't blame for running with the story)

2 hours ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

Which is an admission of guilt or wrong doing.....which this day and age means litigation incoming.

Plenty redacted means we only are ever going to know the surface of it.

The players and players wives/ partners did not need to be privy.

Should have been handled by our coaching/admin. We made a massive blunder here, this story will get traction.

Yes they appear to have breached May and his partners privacy, but litigation seems unlikely i would have thought, or at least civil litigation in the form of May and his partner suing the club (i guess there could be some workplace law they could get pinged for).

What would they sue for? Can't be defamation as they would have to prove harm which would be hard given no specific details have thing has been reported on, and the information that has come out was not leaked by the club.

6 hours ago, picket fence said:

Bye Bye!

I don't think he heard you picket

1 hour ago, Demonstone said:

Has anybody made a dreadful pun about Filthy Luker yet?

Pay that

33 minutes ago, stinga said:

I think Kolt will revolve through centre bounce, half forward and half back on an as needs basis. We've been crying out for that sort of player - we tried Salem and Rivers with limited success (good defensively but not much at hitting the scoreboard). Fritsch probably wont play and Jake will take his role and even better, make Andrew accountable as he loves leading up and then getting out the back - will really work well with Mihocek. They've gone with Walter so to have the 4 tall defenders will work well with us and still allow Petty to do the relieving ruck role. Would love to see Kentfield get the replacement for Fritsch but I think they will give him a proper first game notification. Because they went with the 4 tall defenders I think it unlikely they take Heath which leaves Laurie to come in.

I could see that happening, but i suspect Laurie might come in.

What we really need is our medium utilities (HF, HB. mid, wing etc) kicking more goals.

We've seen some improvement in this space with Langdon, Chin, Sharpy, Culley and Langford last week all bobbing up for goals this season. Kolt is perfect for that role as he won't have to be asked twice to have got and goal and he is excellent, accurate kick

2 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Regardless of the content the mere concept of such a call is next level stupid. Much better to relay any message minus personal info, to players to discuss with their partners.

As to the reported content - if correct, I have no words for that level of stupidity and ignorance.

Agree Luci

Beig charitable it was a well-meaning exercise, but a really, really stupid own goal.

2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Turner and Melksham made the cut.

Melksham a logical replacement for Cross given the low amount of minutes Cross played last week.

And Cross jumped at a surprising number of packs to contest marks and bring it to ground. That's Melk's go too

4 minutes ago, adonski said:

Kentfield in if Fritter goes out?

Or maybe Laurie, with Melk covering Friiters role?