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34 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Copyright risks/cost are the reason we don't use other artists music......

The writer of C'mon Demons pay US to play it

10 minutes ago, Random Task said:

MELBOURNE

2. Jacob Van Rooyen, 3. Christian Salem, 4. Harvey Langford, 5. Xavier Lindsay, 6. Caleb Windsor, 8. Jake Lever, 9. Jack Steele, 10. Daniel Turner, 12. Koltyn Tholstrup, 14. Changkuoth Jiath, 15. Ed Langdon, 16. Bailey Laurie, 19. Xavier Taylor, 21. Matthew Jefferson, 22. Blake Howes, 24. Trent Rivers, 25. Tom McDonald, 26. Jed Adams, 27. Max Heath, 28. Brody Mihocek, 30. Harry Sharp, 31. Bayley Fritsch, 32. Tom Sparrow, 33. Latrelle Pickett, 36. Kysaiah Pickett, 37. Kade Chandler, 39. Ricky Mentha Jnr, 44. Luker Kentfield

Absent: Max Gawn*, Steven May, Jack Viney, Jai Culley, Jake Bowey, Jake Melksham, Thomas Matthews, Shane McAdam, Tom Campbell, Kalani White, Harrison Petty, Oscar Berry, Riley Onley, Aidan Johnson, Jack Henderson, Any Moniz-Wakefield

NORTH MELBOURNE

1. Lachy Dovaston, 2. Finn O'Sullivan, 3. Harry Sheezel, 5. Caleb Daniel, 7. Zane Duursma, 8. Bailey Scott, 9. Luke Davies-Uniacke, 12. Jy Simpkin, 15. Dylan Stephens, 17. Riley Hardeman, 19. Griffin Logue, 20. Nick Larkey, 21. Callum Coleman-Jones, 24. Tom Powell, 26. Luke Parker, 27. Jack Darling, 30. Charlie Comben, 32. Toby Pink, 37. Cooper Harvey, 38. Tristan Xerri, 39. Zac Becker (train-on player), 41. Jacob Konstanty, 44. Cam Zurhaar, 46. Robbie Hansen Junior

Absent: Aidan Corr, George Wardlaw, Colby McKercher, Luke McDonald, Charlie Spargo, Luke Urquhart, Zac Fisher, Wil Dawson, Taylor Goad, Blake Thredgold, Paul Curtis, Hugo Mikunda, Josh Goater, Brayden George, Jackson Archer, Matt Whitlock, River Stevens, Zac Banch, Cooper Trembath

We have multiple Moniz-Wakefields?

16 hours ago, Stem Splitters said:

Ha. The "membership" I/others spend on is time to produce. Not to pin repos off the cuff just b/c someone has 'paid' a monetary price.

If that's the platform then they'll lose out in the end, so things do.

Let's hope they're more sincere.

You might have misunderstood Ethan - he didn't mean membership to the podcast, he meant tipping in some $ to this footy forum to help keep the lights on.

By the by, lots of people, me included, volunteer their time and energy (eg the moderators, people who provide invaluable tech support support etc) AND also are paid up Demonland members. That to say the two things are not mutually exclusive. Apart from helping the site continue, a benefit of contributing some $ is you don't get ads.

10 hours ago, Stem Splitters said:

Demonland Podcast Opener Suggestion V1

Gday folk,

This is a short proposal to Demonland for a new Podcast Opening Music Track/Pod Announcement - so to intro the podcasts.

There are many ways that one could 'introduce' the gang and the platform. They've relied upon the old C'mon Demons music, aka late 1980s as an intro. Some on other threads have suggested an update.

So, this is a suggestion.

Along with other music we/I have proposed to the MFC, to take onboard some fan inspired music, yet beyond the label of "fan art", as we are professionals in sound and picture design etc - with a love for the club.

On behalf, I'm posting here to seek your response or any feedback of this short track.

We can develop it in any number of ways. And to spice it up and introduce more energy if required.

The purpose is to suggest to Andy and the team a refresh music intro for their podcasts. And or how ever you may phrase it... to invigorate the podcast and to lift the sounds and pictures of the Demonland "space" in general.

In additions, and for instance, six6six and his endeavours produced a great music track titled 'Addicted To the Red And The Blue.' Whereby we re-imagined his efforts into a more cinematic music rendition here: https://on.soundcloud.com/Vy4fstxzT4bCoB6rsK

Let us know if we're barking up the wrong tree, so to speak.

We're here to help lift our feelings of what a great club we are fortunate to support.

Thanks for your time reading this post.

Any feedback is appreciated.

Best,

Stem Splitters

G'day @Stem Splitters. Thanks for your interest in the pod and the work you've done on an alternative intro song, and the thought you have put into it - very much appreciated.

Ultimately its @Demonland's call, but my two cents is C'mon Demons has been used as the intro since the start of the pod (which was before i joined) and for better or worse is part of the show. In some ways it's a gag, in the so bad it's good vein.

And given its vintage (ie 80s), it's also a nostalgic nod to the fact that the show is hosted by two old blokes, and a slightly younger bloke, who have fond memories of the 80s era. I'd add that it's also a nod, albeit an unintentional one, to the somewhat loose, unpolished vibe of the show - in reality it is the very definition of a niche podcast that is never going to get a big audience.

That's to say C'mon Demons is part of the show, one i can't see us changing (but again, it's @Demonland's call).

I do take your point about looking for ways to invigorate and/or improve the show, and again thanks for your interest on that front. But to be honest, i reckon a good starting point to improving the show would be for me to work on not interrupting so often, not banging on for so long and not repeating myself (note to self - work on that stuff).

All that said what i would actually like is the original being cleaned up, remastered so to speak (ie as opposed to say being remixed, sampled or edited) to take out the crackle and slight sonic wobble it has in parts (i might be wrong, but i think @Demonland took the audio from a cassette tape). And, for fun, i wouldn't mind a dub or minimal techno remix of C'mon Demons. Perhaps i could use it as the stinger for the Stats file!

4 minutes ago, Willmoy1947 said:

Are most Clubs choosing more than one or two players as VC'S?

IIRC, a while back there was a trend of clubs having multiple VCs, and even in a couple of cases, two captains.

But if I were to guess, I'd say now most clubs don't (have multiple VCs), and also have fewer players in the leadership group. Which is better in my humble.

1 hour ago, Roost it far said:

Absolute Legend, comfortably in my top handful of players I've got serious enjoyment from watching.

I really like that idea - players you really enjoy watching, as opposed to 'best' players

Flash not in my top 10 best Demon players, but def one of the dees I most enjoyed watching.

1 hour ago, Dees051321 said:

Sorry weird question but when are we announcing our leadership group/ captain/ vice captain for the year

Love (for the dees) means never having to say you're sorry

2 hours ago, Go Ds said:

And the other song they performed together: Games Without Frontiers.

Love that song - didn't realise kate Bush sang on it

1 hour ago, Ghostwriter said:

Don’t give up on Shane. He’s travelling really well and he’s super keen

3 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

I've been dining out because 🤡 coaching failures are long & extensive.

Wasted the best list in my lifetime.

Totally stuffed 2017.

Wasted 2019 & 2020.

Straight set exit in 2022 & 2023.

So 2 good years out of 9 is a pretty bleak return so I'll be dining for a while.

10 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

Sparrow was terrific. His impact has always been solid but his production has increased. Could be a break out season as a genuine mid.

I spoke to a young dees player who said King is really encouraging players to play with freedom and show initiative - and in comparison to goody there's less focus on needing to adhere to set structures and players covering specific areas/zones on the ground.

I reckon that will really help Sparrow as he is a player that strictly adheres to instructions and i have little doubt that the roles goody asked him to play meant he had to sacrifice his own game.

Sparrow been excellent.

Windsor electric - BOG thus far.

15 minutes ago, inanunda said:

I'm willing to accept an increase in turnovers in the early rounds if there is a willingness to take the game on like we have seen today. Over time, fitness will increase meaning the skill mistakes will decrese (less fatigue).

Yep. Can't make a cake and all that.

As the system and method kingy wants them to play becomes drilled in and instinctive there'll be less turnovers

1 minute ago, whatwhat say what said:

lindsay is gonna be a helluva player

of all our kids, he's the one that excites me most

Upside is huuuuge.

With his pcl injury he was drafted with he basically only dud half a preseason last year.

i think im right in saying he has had an injury free preseason this year and I reckon we'll see a different plsyer this season.

Almost all the scoring is coming from turnovers

2 minutes ago, smiFFy said:

should have gone all the way, Harves

Yep.

The odds of kicking a goal on the run from 40 metres out under little pressure are better odds of scoring a goal than kicking to a forwards advantage in a one on one contest.

Livestream has had the Epstein file treatment - one big redaction

3 hours ago, DubDee said:

MFC website and socials have definitely improved this year

Keep it up!

I've been a vocal critic of our comms, but credit where it's due they're producing some terrific content, and livestreaming an intra-club match is a terrific initiative.

The article on the MFC website doesn't say if they'll have commentary. Doing so would certainly add an extra level of complexity.

I'm still not a fan of our website - it's clunky and hard to navigate and find specific information.

14 minutes ago, hardtack said:

Wow! That I did not know! I loved that movie…must drag out the disc and watch it again.

I think you missed the gag HT (Bad Bunny was 6 in 2001).

27 minutes ago, old55 said:

Thanks @Demonland

We never seem to be scheduled vs Sandringham at TBO, just a few hundred metres from my house.

The most accessible match for me is vs St.Kilda at RSEA Mmorabbin but that is just before on the same day as MFC vs HFC at the MCG.

None of the fixtures really tempt me, it's a long way to Casey and the viewing is rubbish.

He shouted to them there:
It's a long way to bloody Casey
It's a long way to go.
It's a long way to bloody Casey
To the sweetest dees I know!
Goodbye Sandringham
Farewell Federation Square!
It's a long long way to bloody Casey
But my heart's right there.

11 hours ago, jnrmac said:

The NFL, like the AFL when they chose Snoop Dog, simply want controversy as it attracts more eyeballs. Bad Bunny hates America and has a history of burning the US flag. So the choice suited them perfectly

While most people wouldn't have understood the entirely-in-Spanish lyrics it would get me banned here if I was to print them here as they are disgusting.

Feel free to look them up.

Family entertainment ? To paaphrase John Elliott 'Pig's derriere'

Total load of rot junior- the lot of it. In fact rot doesn't come close.

It's one thing not liking an artist, it's something completely different to make up a pack of lies about them.

And to be honest, i'm shocked. I'm hoping you somehow got your wires crossed, because your post is straight up disinformation, not to mention defamatory.

Bad Bunny has a history of burning the American flag? That's simply not true. I don't recall him burning the American flag once, let alone having a 'history' of doing so.

Bad Bunny hates America? You have to be joking.

One that's absolute rubbish, two did you watch his performance?

It was a total celebration of America for god's sake - he could hardly have been more patriotic.

During "Café Con Ron," near the end of his performance, he spoke his first and only English words of the entire show: "God bless America."

He closed his performance by showing the camera the words the words written on the gridiron ball he carried for most of his performance - "Together We Are America”

And what on earth are you talking about that his lyrics were 'disgusting' and that you would get banned if you were to post them?

A serious question - how did you come to that conclusion?

I'm guessing you are referring to his song Safaera, the recorded version of which has sexual, though certainly not 'disgusting', lyrics.

In any case the version he sung at the superbowl had different lyrics, with all explicit lyrics removed or muted to ensure it complied with the very strict American Federal Communications Commission standards and NFL broadcast rules.

These were the other songs he sang:

• "El Apagón" (The Blackout) - about Puerto Rico's power crisis and government corruption

"I don't want to leave here / Let them leave.

Puerto Rico is incredible / From the tip of the island to Ponce.

Now everyone wants to be Latino / But they lack the seasoning.

Damn blackout / Power goes out every day.

They are staying with what belongs to us / But the street is ours."

• "NUEVAYOL" - about the Puerto Rican diaspora in New York

  "From the sun of the island to the cold of the Bronx / Looking for the dollar that doesn't buy happiness.

  The 'guagua' (bus) takes a long time / The A-train is full of dreams and fatigue.

  I remember the neighborhood while walking through Times Square / Everything is bright but it feels dark.

  Puerto Rico is in the heart / Even if the physical body is in 'Nuevayol'."

• "DtMF" (Debí Tirar Más Fotos) - about cherishing moments before they're gone

"The phone stayed in the pocket / While life passed us by.

Now I look at the gallery and there is nothing / Only the echo of your laughter in my mind.

Time is a thief that doesn't return what it takes / I should have taken more photos.

To see your face when the sun hit you / To remember that we were happy for a second."

• "BAILE INOLVIDABLE" (Unforgettable Dance) - about lost love

"That dance was the beginning of the end / Between the smoke and the reggaeton.

You moved like you knew / That tomorrow you would be a memory.

The club is full but it feels empty / Seeking your silhouette in every corner.

An unforgettable dance / A scar that doesn't want to heal."

• "Café Con Ron" - the closing celebration

"The sun is rising and the party hasn't ended / Bitter coffee and sweet rum.

To forget the sorrows / To celebrate that we are still standing.

If the world ends tomorrow / Let it find us dancing.

From the mountain to the coast / This is the island that never sleeps."

1 hour ago, The heart beats true said:

45 Million Americans speak Spanish. Bad Bunny is Puerto Rican. All Puerto Rican’s are American.

As someone who used to live in the US it always makes me laugh at the Australian perception of America. It’s an incredibly diverse place. They have a broken electoral college system, but don’t mistake it for total ignorance.

When I think about the US I often think about Yeats’ poem The Second Coming… ‘The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity’.

I think about that line a lot actually. It’s the root problem.

45 million Americans speak Spanish as their first language - another 15 million speak Spanish as a second language. So, minimum 60 million Americans, aprox 20 percent of the population speak Spanish.

And that doesn't include the millions who live in cities and regions that have big Latino communities that have basic grasp of Spanish (i spent a bit of time in New Mexico and heaps of non-Latinos i met could understand, and speak a little, Spanish).

Hell, Bosch speaks Spanish!

18 minutes ago, BDA said:

the reasons above are exactly why billionaires push the woke agenda. It's great cover and distracts from their greed and avarice.

The NFL does not push a woke agenda, that was my point. The idea they do is a result of the how effectively the alt right control narrative, and therefore the framing of discourse.

The closest the NFL had ever got to being woke was their flaccid response to the George Floyd murder. Even then they ran Kapernick out of the game for daring to protest.

There was nothing woke about their decision to engage Roc Nation to produce the half time show, or ticking off Kendrick Lamar or Bad Bunny, two of the biggest artists in the last 20 years. Those decisions were all about the bottom line.

And besides, much to the chagrin of the alt-right chattering class (who desperately wanted to see Bad Bunny come out in a dress and make anti ICE statements) there was nothing woke about Bad Bunny's performance, nor for that matter of Green Days pregame performance. In many ways it was as American as Apple pie. Just not white America.

28 minutes ago, AshMac said:

One minor point - the spectacle at the stadium for the halftime show is atrocious. Bad sound, only shown on one of the digital screens, intricate dance moves etc that are great for tv but absolutely putrid for the audience there. From what I've heard, it was awesome for people watching from home, but as a live spectacle it was utterly woeful. And that's fine because obviously tv audience eclipses live audience by a hell of a lot, but had to pull you up on the notion that the in-stadium spectators got a great show, coz we definitely didn't.

Did you go AshMac?

I didn't obviously, but that's exactly what i thought watching - ie it would have been horrible watching it live. You wouldn't have been able to see anything with all the sugar cane and the rest of the palaver. It's so obviously not for the crowd at the game, but rather for people watching on TV, Youtube etc etc.