binman

9 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I'm mates with Ryan Daniels and he believes Jackson won't be leaving Freo. He thinks they will be trading Darcy....

Tha5a what I would do too, and i think it's probably the most likely outcome.

But a lot depends on whether Jackson really wants out.

If he Jackson is afamant he want out, they of course can play hard ball and keep him to his contract, but that would be a risk because nor every player is a Lachie neale which put there head down and continues to play elite footy

23 minutes ago, doomsday dee said:

Hey Binman,just wondering what your interpretation is when someone is outta form,does that mean not many touches or a small defender taking on the most dangerous small forwards in the AFL(some are all Australian)and I would say,hasn't been beaten yet

Sorry, don't follow DD.

12 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Have a chat to the boss. I don't use the app, just access via Google Chrome on my phone.

Me too. Maybe it's my brain

The site is lagging like crazy is what i should have said.

And there are some funky formatting and editing issues.

But, you're right I better speak to @Demonland

22 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Yep.. Geelong and Collingwood

Really, when?

1 minute ago, ANG13 said:

What is Rivers trade value? Again I would prefer not to have to use JVR or Rivers and definitely not McVee but would absolutely love to get LJ back

Yep Riv would be in the mix.

26 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

It's been mentioned multiple times on Demonland that starting with this off season, clubs will be able to trade two future firsts. So 2026 and 2027 could be traded.

As big a blow as it would be lose Jackson, Freo are well placed to cover the loss.

Darcy is a terrific ruck (though his injuries are becoming a worry) and up forward they have Amiss and Traecy.

And trading Jackson would really help with their salary cap, will surely must be an issue given the contracts Bolton, Serong, Brayshaw, Young are on and Amiss and Traecy will demand.

Two future firsts and a decent WA player like McVee or JVR might get them somewhere close.

If he wants out they will have to weigh up the risks of forcing him to stay - they'd want to be confident he'd perform to a high level.

3 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Snapping all over the place. 😂

The app is lagging like crazy

52 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

But the club will not say anything because good corporate citizen

Can you name an example of any club call8ng the AFL out, or even publicly criticising the umpiring?

1 hour ago, jaydenh10 said:

hopefully jack takes care of him quickly he is a [censored] loser

Send langers to him.

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46 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

I know. I'm a fan too. I guess I'm hypothetically thinking about list balance and what could land LJ, that solves not just the ruck/forward problem, but the Max succession.

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Go redleggers.

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BUT, if there is any sort of chance of landing Jackson i hope they do what it takes to get him - and whatever it takes might include putting JVR on the table.

It really is impossible to replace Gawn - but getting Jackson in would be huge in terms of creating an opportunity for a succession plan

Jackson is still young (24 in September) - barring serious injury he'll play another eight to ten seasons.

I could see Max playing three more seasons after this year.

That takes Jackson to 27 years old, hitting his peak, with still another six or seven seasons left in his career as the number one ruck. Perfect

I reckon Maxy struggled to find synergy with Grundy in large part because he wants to be the man. Super competitive, he'd be happy to take every ruck contest.

But it seemed to work better Jackson. And if they can make it work it might help to extend Maxy's career.

Keeping Koz and getting Jackson in would be a game changer.

All that said, how good would it be to get Jackson AND keep JVR.

40 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

I think we'd have to look at it, but I'd rather keep JVR and give him rhe second forward role with no Rick responsibility, play him next to LJ and Petty/Turner.

I'm a huge jvr fan - I'm absolutely convinced he'll be a gun.

That's hardly a big call - even with his middling form this season, his career numbers stack up well against his current peers (eg Amiss, Treacy, JUH, Darcy, McDonald, Philthorp) and the gun key forwards in the 2000s (eg Netiz, Lyon, Cunrnow, Kennedy, Darling, McKay, Naughton, not a mile from Brown) at the same age.

I really rate Treacy, and he is in ripping form this season.JVR's career numbers are comparable to Treacy, who is a season ahead (and almost a year older) than Roo:

3 hours ago, JJJ said:

I went to a Premium Members function where Danners said that if Travis Johnstone had Longmuir’s application to training and preparation he would be the best player in the league. Danners was super [censored] off when Troy left.

With his kicking skills and high footy iq a super fit TJ would be the prototype modern player.

1 hour ago, Clintosaurus said:

Solid rant on the umpires @binman but I would have gone further and called them cheats. The coaching they receive is the cause, especially when they are it would seem clearly told to look after Nick Daicos in the second half.

I actually wasn't going to do a rant at all - planned to be all measured and solution focus.

Clearly i haven't processed my emotions about umpiring yet.

19 hours ago, binman said:

They don't have numbers 0 thru 9 in stock at all times?

Take up too much space? Too complex? They only sell 43 sets?

'Sorry binman I know you want kozzie's number but we're all out of 3s sorry.

Can I interest you in a Windsor - half the the price!

Or I think we can do you a Laurie - wait hold on, sorry we're all out of 1s too.

How about a Jed or a Jai.

Alternatively, how about we put a 6 in place and you come back at a later date and we you can add the 3 - good valuw as you can have a salo flr a while and its insurance in case koz doesn't resign'

36 on my back here we come (subject to availability)!!!!

11 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

The Demon Shop sells jumper numbers and they have an industrial press (a household iron isn’t hot enough). They charge $13 per numeral.

Best to call them before heading in because they don’t have every number in stock at all times.

They don't have numbers 0 thru 9 in stock at all times?

Take up too much space? Too complex? They only sell 43 sets?

'Sorry binman I know you want kozzie's number but we're all out of 3s sorry.

Can I interest you in a Windsor - half the the price!

Or I think we can do you a Laurie - wait hold on, sorry we're all out of 1s too.

How about a Jed or a Jai.

Alternatively, how about we put a 6 in place and you come back at a later date and we you can add the 3 - good valuw as you can have a salo flr a while and its insurance in case koz doesn't resign'

20 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

If you think this deal is big, just imagine what Harley Reid is going to get, having shown literally nothing except what a petulant unprofessional child he is.

Geelong is already mowing the lawns on his 9 acre farm, and Cotton On has a headband range in the works.

I've heard that Cotton On is working on a new XXL range of Harley Reid undies and Ts.

3 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

Your little boy will be fine, as will the many, many little kids with #36 on their jumpers ♥️💙

Hopefully i'll be fine too - koz is an exception to my rule of not getting too upset about a gun dees player leaving.

I don't' have a number on my jumper (was going to get 10, but didn't get around to it - where do you get a number added these days?) but if Koz resigns i'm gonna but the Indigenous jumper his dad designed (which is my second fav) and proudly put 36 on it.

11 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

At this stage the game for various reasons full time umpiring for all umpires is not a viable option IMO.

I still like to see the master umpire model which entails a full time professional umpire who oversees the other part time umpires. The master umpire directs and advises his/her underlings on application and interpreting of laws before and during games, watches from a distance but will not be burdened to make routine decisions in a game unless a bad umpiring clanger occurs and then he/she can intervene. The master umpire can spend the rest of the week being part of the senior off field umpiring panel, review games, study better ways to interpret decisions and scrutinise developing playing trends, liaise with other masters and help in training junior umpires. They could even become the AFL tribunal to adjudicate reported offences. They would be much better than the current shady lot.

I like

42 minutes ago, sue said:

Yes, he's my favourite goal umpire. But goal umps don't rouse the indignation of supporters, less so with video reviews where the indignation is usually directed at the process and the AFL using cameras where the ball can travel a post width between frames.

While all umpires probably supported a team when young, their background is much more obscure than a player's. How would you feel with Maynard being an umpire (probably he would get the MRO job instead).

I don't object to the idea you have put forward - just worry about how to dampen the 'he used to play for x, no wonder he's biased' issue. We supporters do enough frothing at the mouth now. Improved umpires like you suggest would hopefully make the umpiring better. Perhaps to the point that the frothing would become more irrational and outweigh the downside of perceived bias.

Would be easy enough to mitigate - just don't allow ex players to umpire their own team.

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

binman, i would add to your good points, to say that in a professional umpiring era a good source for umpires would be retired players. many afl players when they retire have no new real career to pursue. the afl could fast track them through a training acadmy then start them off umpiring in the vfl until they are ready for afl. i'm sure there would be plenty of players grateful for this opportunity. they could even start some umpiring academy work in the final years before their retirement from playing. many players are already doing this sort of studying/work-experience in other fields in preparation for after-footy life.

A brilliant idea - ex players would have the required fitness and hopefully also the 'feel' for the game.

It would create a career pathway for players, of who i think there are many, who as you suggest just dont know what to do in their post footy caeere, man of whom struggle wit their mental health because it's so hard to replace the adrenalin, routine and singular focus footy gives players (i mean its not the same as playing but jeez there be a bit of adrenaline and pressure involved in umpiring game in front of 80, 000 baying fans).

And ex-players would have instant cred when going out to local footy clubs and leagues to, for example work with young umpires, umpire match sims etc etc.

They could be given other skills and training, like coaching and instruction, skills that are very transferable.

10 hours ago, Roost it far said:

There’s not a club in the land that couldn’t work out how to get Koz on their list if he wanted to come. Players retire, players get traded, front and back loading, a rising cba, where there’s a will there’s a way.

Sure, every club would love koz but that's why there is a salary cap.

As Jaded notes i forgot Bolton, who must be on huge coin and Young, who has just re-signed.

To match what the dees seem to be offering koz, Freo would likely have to cut at least top 10 players, who unless coming out of contract would have to agree to any move, not to mention there being a in willing and able to pick them up and match their salary.

And then there's the issue of list balance one from has already had issues with by spending so much capital (salary and contract length) on Jackson when they already had a highly paid number one ruck in Darcy.

Bolton plays almost exactly the same role koz would - damaging small forward who can run thru the middle. As noted, they are paying him a motza.

Adding koz on a contract that matches our offer would mean having aprox 2.5 million dollars a year or their salary cap tied up in small forwards.

And then there's team culture considerations. If Freo were to match our offer koz would likely instantly become their highest paid players.

Which might, or might not cause ructions, but it certainly would likely result in up and coming players like Treacey looking elsewhere in the knowledge they won't be able to command anywhere near same coin at Freo as they would on the open market.

33 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

If Freo really want him they can offer him the same deal we have. They can work that into their cap. You can’t tell me they’re paying their list more than we’re paying ours. We just know what he’s worth to us and it’s plenty. We’re bland without him and just about anything is possible with him on our list.

Can't see them affording Jackson, Darcy, Serong, Brayshaw AND Koz (even if they traded Darcy). Treacey would be wanting some of the action too

6 hours ago, The Cult of Disco Turner said:

Fine by me.

Kozzy is the most electric player in the country and I’m happy to buy a ticket to every game even if we’re [censored] just to watch him play

Yep - Koz is box office.

That goal he kicked of the ground from 45 was lucky, but genius makes its own luck. It was yet another jaw drop moment he's given us.

He's just so great to watch - and surely that's should be a massive factor in his salary.

That and the fact he's arguably our best kick, certainly most reliably accurate goal kicker, best mid and best forward.