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    1 hour ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

    Loved the "chipping around discussion" on the pod. From a bit of track-watching, I throw out the following observations:

    If we intercept the ball on the half-back line (which happened quite a bit on the weekend via May and Lever), it seems the following options are explored:

    1. If Windsor, or Bowey are available (or McVee when he is back) the quick overlap handball is given so that the next kick can penetrate the defensive layers set up by the oppo and we enter the forward line at pace, with reduced risk of turnover. It happened a couple of times on Sunday, but I am sure the coaches want more of that.

    2. Absent (1) the inboard "45 kick", if safe, is taken to explore what is on in the corridor.

    3. Absent (1) or (2), chip or switch the ball laterally or back, which by definition can only occur safely because the oppo forwards have pressed on to block the corridor. 

    4. From the switch or chip, repeat from the other side of the ground until options (1) or (2) become available.

    As BinMan said - Demons' supporters will groan when this happens at the G in Round 1.  They will be the same supporters who groan when we "bang it long" into the forward line.

    Re long forward handballs they are always the best option at the centre bounces if we win possession because, with 6/6/6, there are fewer opponents around to intercept the act, unless the half-backs rush up - remember the 2021 GF?

    Finally, surely the coaches get a mulligan on the weekend - we have trained for three months with JVR as the key target in our forward plans, and he goes off before he can reach a contest.......

     

    That's a great analysis Harvey, I'll discuss it next week.

    My thought was perhaps it was in part about trialling strategy to mitigate frees big advantage over us - their leg speed. 

    That may well be the case but your post highlights another possible purpose - to minimise our turnovers. 

    When it is all said and done our biggest issue implementing the transition game last season, and the key cause of most of our losses, was how frequently we turned the ball over in the middle third of the ground. It killed us.

    So given there is no magic bullet (ie we are not magically going to improve our kicking skills - the players we have are the players we have) it makes perfect sense to develop strategies to reduce the risk of turnovers.

    Think of how many games we lost last year by a goal or two  - even a small reduction in the number of turnovers will have an outsize benefit.

    Controlling the ball in the way you describe decreases the risk or turnover considerably.

    One, the focus is on getting the ball in the hands of the right players 

    And two, it means you don't go forward until there is an option, reducing the need for the long bomb (and therefore less aerial contests for Max to get smashed in) and/or high risk kicks.

    It's worth noting that controlling the ball with short kicks to a lead up target has long been a key feature of the Lions' method (albeit less side to side).

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    On 02/03/2025 at 16:03, hardtack said:

    Strange…I was of the understanding that Casey have a large following in Singapore. I was told by my friend who operates a stall at the Newton Food Centre, that there’s a guy named Hung who does road maintenance around the Johor Causeway area, and who owns a transistor radio that he has permanently tuned into Casey Radio. If you ask around, you might be able to track him down and get some stats.

    Oh, and as an aside, my medication seems to be doing its job.

    Any chance you could sling me some of your meds - they sound fun. 

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    1 hour ago, DubDee said:

    Anyone have time on ground stats for the game?

    would love to know how long guys like Chandler were on the ground for 

    Chandler's TOG was 84%. Woeful disposal numbers, with 3 kicks and no handballs.

    The AFL stats are a joke, for example, like hits outs, the clearance number is a rubbish indicator - it just measures quantity not quality, impact or outcome. The key clearance related stat is scores from clearances - which is not on the AFL website despite them owning a share in Champion data.  

    There's no sugarcoating Chin's disposal numbers but playing as the small forward (playing Koz's old role) his key KPI is pressure.

    And the AFL site doesn't have that data (though i'd note he only laid 2 tackles, only one of which was inside 50 - by way of comparison Clarry and Fritter, yes fritter, had 2 inside 50 tackles). 

    The other important stat for Chin (that the AFL actually does have, but not for this match) are the total distance he covers in a match and the distance he covers at speed. That data is available, though frustratingly only for the for the top 5 players at the Telstra tracker section of the AFL app. 

    That data is really important as an indicator for our high half forwards, a role Chin played last year, given how important those players' defensive and offensive running is (ie to defend turnover and provide options ahead of the ball on transition).

    it is less relevant if Chin is playing a true small forward, but important, nonetheless. 

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    24 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

    Freo are our kryptonite so I think there's no better team to play to finish our preparation for 2025. It will be a great test for the coaches and players to put into practice some of the tweaks over the off season

    My first wish for today is no injuries.

    My second wish is to stay with Freo the whole time and even a win would be nice to show we've closed the gap on Freo. If we get smashed in clearance and lose by 6-7 goals, I feel like we might be heading into a disappointing 2025.

    We have def struggled against freo in the last few seasons, though the timing of the games hasn't helped as most have been just before or just after our mid season bye.

    I think our biggest challenge against freo is their leg speed. I'll be interested to see how we go on that front today.

    Improvement in leg speed won't really come from our new draftees or trades though Sharp is, well, pretty Sharp (but so was nibbla).

    It will come from their training regime - whether they have they had a focus on building leg speed, if yes has it been successful and how fit are they (critical because it's about ability to maintain speed over the whole match).

    That said, having koz as a mid helps as he we can utilise his speed all over the ground, and the same is probably true of langdon.

    Anf Windsor at half back means he will be in the game more and be better placed to use his speed to provide defensive cover on turnover (something we struggled with in the back half of last year).

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    On 09/09/2024 at 15:32, DeeSpencer said:

    He plays on ball at Gippsland, was a winger in the champs.

    We're also wasting Windsor if we pigeon hole him as a winger long term. He should be spending plenty of his training time with the inside mids and half backs over summer no matter who we pick. Even if I think he's a few years away from a permanent on ball role, if at all.

    But back on Lindsay. He has similar attributes to Josh Kelly, who we passed over twice because of doubts about his toughness under the highest of pressure but is undoubtedly a good player.

    And whilst I like my midfielders big and beefy there's no doubt the league has shifted to valuing quick and skilled mids. Naicos, Gulden (playes overwhelmingly on ball), Butters, Serong were all Aus. Merrett should've been. We've just lost the one player we have who can run with those guys in ANB.

    Lindsay's also 183cm and has at least some size on his frame, he's not totally skinny. Who's to say he doesn't end up a better inside ball winner and stronger than Jagga Smith, Finn O'Sullivan, Draper and Murphy Reid who are all in contention for top 5 picks.

    He had 11 disposals and 5 clearances in just over a quarter in this clip and looked comfortable in traffic.

     

    I hadn't opened this thread, so started post from last September. Some interesting takes.

    This post will age a lot better than some of the other takes - you nailed DS.

    Great comment about the similarities to Kelly, I hadn't thought of that comparison - it's a good one

    I love this kid, and think he has huge upside. As you note can play mutiple roles, is tough, and is exactly the sort of player we have been crying our for.

    And seems like he is a natural leader.

     

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    13 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    Guess which club had the longest list.

    Sure, but its padded out with players who are ready to go - Chandler played last week, ditto Koz, Trac could have and will play this week, ditto Viney. And it's kind of weird including suspended players.

    Key is how many best 22 are on the list i reckon.

    Leaving aside Chandler, Viney, Tracc (who are all good to go) and Koz by my reckoning there are only two best 22 locks - Windsor and Mcveee (Kolt is probably close to best 22 too i guess). 

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    1 hour ago, greenwaves said:

    Same old story.  If we win it's good signs, if we lose, it's just a practice match

    I don't read replies or reactions 

     

     

     

     

    Curious, how do you read a reaction?

    And what happens if you accidentally see an emoji that has been added to one of your posts?

    Once seen, never unseen?

    Or do you try and convince yourself, Schulz stylee, that you saw 'nothink'?

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    1 hour ago, Vipercrunch said:

    The round 4 game is on April 4th, which is almost 5 weeks after this Sunday's game.  There will be virtually zero residual fitness benefit for playing Pickett on Sunday.  All his match fitness and loads will have to be managed in training sessions in the couple of weeks prior to that game. 

    Still very hard to stomach that he got suspended for that incident.... stupid AFL 🤬🤬🤬 

    Yeah, you're prob right about the benefit of Koz playing from a fitness perspective.

    But if Koz doesn't play, come round four it will be seven weeks since he has played in a competitive inter team match. If he plays, its six weeks between proper hit outs.

    One less week doesn't sound much, but in terms of match 'touch' it might be a factor in their thinking about selecting him this week.    

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    12 minutes ago, Vipercrunch said:

    Curious with what we do with Pickett.  If this a full dress rehersal for Rd 1, do we leave him out?

    For me, it really depends on how big the benches are (ie how many players the coaches can give a run to see how they fit), but given Pickett has already played 2 preseason games, I actually think he will be left out (which will surprise some).

    Interesting point.

    As you say koz had had two sold hit outs already. And obviously he's not playing in the first 3 rounds.

    That could mean them running with the team they might go with round one.

    That said missing the first three rounds might mean they want to take the opportunity to get one more match load and fitness into koz.

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    27 minutes ago, rjay said:

    I really meant advertising 'bin'...I'm not a believer in banning things. Drug and alcohol being prime examples of it doesn't work,...

    We're on the same page there Rjay - in 30 years people will look back in horror at the wall-to-wall sports betting advertising and how embedded it's become in footy the way we look back at Big tobacco sponsoring Australian Cricket (not to mention touring cars, footy etc etc) and cigarettes being advertised all over the place 

    (in my mind's eye i still see Benson's and Hedges gold livery when i think back to cricket in the 70s - no coincidence that until i gave up smoking when i was 30 my go to was Benson and Hedges Extra Mild) 

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    2 hours ago, rjay said:

    When I saw the thread title I thought we were going to be discussing the idea of getting rid of betting in the AFL.

    The sooner it happens the better.

    No way of getting rid of betting on AFL - unless all sports betting is banned, which ain't gonna happen.

    And even if it did a million illegal off shore betting sites would fill the void (you can bet on Victoria Soccer League games on such sites such is their ubiquity).

    But i 1000% agree the promotion and advertising of betting should have severe limits placed on it - eg never during games, never embedded in footy shows, only after 9pm etc etc.

    And the AFL, clubs and all sporting clubs should be forced to stop taking any gambling related advertising revenue and/or sponsorships.

    All that said, whilst i fully acknowledge the deleterious impactbof sports betting I really enjoy punting on the footy. And a thread on demonland for like minded people is not a bad idea, particularly if people such as myself don't put punting related posts in other threads.

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    1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    Why is T-Mac considered to be the "4th tall" rather than Petty? Based on a combination of training reports and last year's form of both players, I can't see how McDonald is behind Petty. It seems to me that it might be Petty that misses out. Doesn't mean he can't be picked as a forward, of course, although he would also appear to be behind Turner, van Rooyen and possibly even Johnson, given that Johnson might be picked to help Gawn.

    The way I see it, we only use on or two key tall defender in the old school sense of a key tall who locks down an oppo tall forward.

    May is the number one such player.

    Lever plays an intercepting role and tmac was more a tall roamimg flanker than a traditional tall defender.

    When we needed a second lock down defender last year we had to rely on Lever and/or Tmac, or sometimes Tomlinson.

    The problem with using Lever or Tmac in that role is both are very average one on one.

    Petty is a much better option as he is great one on one  but can also zone off and intercept.

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    26 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

    TMac's form must beg the question. Does the team persist with Petty forward and allow TMac to play as the third tall in defence? I realise Petty's form last season wasn't great but he was coming off no preseason and a nasty injury. I guess if TMac is able which he certainly appears to be then who becomes the best forward option out of Petty, Johnson and Jefferson? Personally I like Petty in defence and feel he's the obvious May replacement next year but TMac's inability to age keeps the question open I think.

    It's fascinating isn't it.

    Petty has been training with the backs all preseason, but has been talked about as a swing man.

    I reckon Jefferson is the wild card in terms of where Petty plays. If Jefferson becomes a best 23 lock that would mean three key talls - jeffo, jvr and Turner.

    And possibly 4 if AJ plays as a forward ruck.

    AJ is another fascinating piece of the puzzle. I don't have a strong sense of whether he is AFL ready, but I really hope he is because I'd love jvr to be able to just focus on marauding inside 50 for at least the first half off the season rather than having to run himself into the grounf giving maxy a chop out (though long term I see him playing that role - I really rate his ruck ability).

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