Demon17

Fritta has always impressed me the way he took being omitted for the 2018 Prelim.  When I look at the Hawks final the previous week I can see why he was dropped , but still it must have been hard.

He could have dropped his bundle as a 21 year old, etc..., but didn't and stuck with the club for whatever reason.

He was the player I was most pleased for because of that hardship and his ultimate 6 goal GF performance.

he's now one of 23 Dees Immortal from 2021.

On 12/29/2021 at 10:13 AM, MT64 said:

Was going to say well shows how much he knows about current day footy, BUT NO, he just plain out and out hates Melbourne. On his Foxtel show he often comes out with condescending comments regarding our players and the club in general. Hard to like this man in his role on TV. 

Dunstall was a champion footballer - That's all.

Doesn't make him a rocket scientist of insight into the modern game. 

He may not be a fan of the Dees, but I detest his club for surviving on the backs of problem gamblers down waverely way. 

33 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

Yeah, the same virus the bulldogs had in the last half of the grand final................. The Demon Variant.

As a Geelong resident I am yet to meet a local cats supporter who welcomes Scott's re appointment. 

But I dont hear steven wells copping it for woeful recruiting and list management over the past 6 or so years. Resting on his laurels from the excellent list build of 16 years ago. 

I suspect the cats hierarchy see change is needed and moved him sideways and installed andrew mackie now in the key role.

13 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

Sorry CF but I was admiring Kate for her past achievements as well as her 8 years on the Board and how she understands what it takes to be successful.

No need to apologise to anyone, esp CF, DeeZone. Your'e spot on IMO.

8 years on the Board means she was involved in all key issues of the re-build, Roos, Pert, Marketing, Goodwin extension, stability and cohesion, financil position after selling gaming venue ....etc.

What on earth was easy in 2021?

34 minutes ago, Wrecker46 said:

Every time I hear Kate Roffey speak I love her more.

I've heard reliably she wasn't even concerned in the 3rd when we down because she thought we had the best team, the best coach and the best captain.

I'm backing she will get us the best facilities.

She admitted in an earleir interview that after Bailey Fritsch's goal in the 3rd roved off the back of the pack, putting us 1 goal down, she leaned across the Gary Lyon who was siiitng close to her and said "... Gary, wev'e got this..."

Was super confident at the time.

20 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Congrats Clarry 

I hope someone is there to help him with public speaking going forward 

He was really struggling last night

Some say public speaking is feared second only to dying.  Then daylight. Why should Clarry be any different to most.

Check out his one-on-one interview with Dylan Buckley mentioned on here recently. Its about an hour, and Clarry is insightful, articulate and showed great self-awareness.

Just not in front of 1500 people  - that will terrify most.

On the big stage though he just lets his play do the speaking.

We are blessed to be seeing this young man in red and blue and wathcing his progress at this time.

16 minutes ago, Hannibal Inc. said:

I don't know if it's been mentioned, but it struck me as being incredibly poetic and reflective of the entire 2021 season that the two players told to look elsewhere during the off-season were the same two players that had the final 2 disposals in the grand final.  Oliver marks, handballs to Neale-Bullen who short kicks to McDonald.

And it's fitting that they round out the top 10 in the B&F.

What a year.

Agreed and then when you take Langdon with those to, to me it shows how valued by the match cttee is work ethic.  

Not saying the total top 10 don't work hard , they do, but Nibbler and Langdon , and now Tmac are just gut runners extraordinary for the team and would have contrinuted to their finishes in the B and F.

2 hours ago, 58er said:

He didn't struggle to perform offensively,

His role was to support the backline and link up with the forward line which he did in a calm and efficient role playing manner. He was never going to be in the top 10 after he relinquished his on ball position for the team.

Will always be able to stand tall for his play all season and magnificent best game ever ( for impact and team play) in the Grand Final. 

Angus  like Tmac is a total team player ! 

 

 

Nice refence to Tmac 58.

Tmac's shepherd in 3rd quarter will go down as the most effective in the Dees history. His finest moment too, to get Sparrows  goal (his finest moment also - so far) done was a GF turning point. Will be in highlights reels forever.

7 hours ago, deespicable me said:

Just watched the videos and was super impressed by Kate Rothey our president. She spoke so well. I think if any of the boys disrespected a female in any way she'd rip them apart. She has a real warmth as well. Her good wishes and inclusion of Glen Bartlett was great to see. She is a very good leader. We are a good club in good hands.

Go Dees

Classy and competent. on two points

 One above acknowledging Glenn Bartlett, and secondly her comment on the directors and thanking them, most have been along for the ride for much of the dark times , stating her thanks and that people don't see or hear from them, "...which is how it should be..."

Pert is our spokesman and does a brilliant job at it.  

Take note Pies and Hawks please. Interestingly the who-ha of the Pies Board elections saw 5000 members vote out or a qualified 12,000, out of a toal memebrship of 80,000 or so. Talk about elitism.

A special shout out to Nathan Jones-  boy did he speak well and from the heart. The standing ovation he received was priceless.

7 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

As evidenced by his well deserved 4th placed B&F - he was close to our most important player early in the season I reckon

Excellent comment on Salem.

Sublime delivery and cool in a crisis. he set up finals games from the first bounce. 10 possieis in first 1/4 of a GF. Teams did not either do their homework on him, or underrated his role or just couldn't plan for him.

Just a fabulous component of the best defence I have seen at the Dees in 50 years.

The Dees kick over 65 points in a game - we win. 

On 12/13/2021 at 6:56 PM, BAMF said:

Not fair at all. McCrae is a very good player. Is he as good ad Oliver? No.

The guy who you quoted doesn't watch non demon games.

I agree he's very good. Just that there's plenty of those types around. Oliver/Trac are on another planet  impact-wise which was my point. 

14 Brownlow votes is about right.

35 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Macrae not even able to tie Clarries Bootlaces is my take!

Harsh but fair.

Apart from Bont who is a champion and hurts the opposition with finishing, Petracca, Oliver and Viney hurt you both in setting up plays and delivery. Well ahead of Treloar, Libba and McCrae.  Largely accumultors. Libba has been dealt with 2 of the 3 times we met this year.

Bailey Smith has yet to really prove himself in a match consistently apart from cameos.

Watch Brayshaw's mastercalss in this regard in the GF. Contest after contest after contest....  Bailey Smith on the other hand is looking around to find out who's on who, as Langdon runs away with the ball (as 1 example)

1 hour ago, Mazer Rackham said:

For research purposes I felt compelled to watch "that ten minutes" again.

Thirty seconds left ... little one from Viney ... SURELY NOT ANOTHER ONE ... handball to Oliver ... STREAMING THROUGH ... BANG!

BANG BANG BANG!!!

More than "bang bang bang", I love that comment "surely not another one" ... the incredulity of the commentators at what is unfolding in front of them ... and it's Melbourne doing it!

I still laugh out loud every time.

GO DEMONS!!!

The GF call/punchline above  by James Brayshaw , IMO, is now only second to the great Michael Williamson's  - "...Jesaulenko  you beauty..."

4 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

The knife to the heart was BBB's goal in the final quarter within the first minute or so.

While we had blown them away so easily in the 3rd, the message Beveridge would have had for the team at 3/4 time would have been 'we are only 4 goals down..., we overcame that deficit in the second...., we can do it again".

But the ease at which that first goal was scored, would have just deflated any enthusiasm that they might have hoped to regain.  After that it was a one-way procession. 

Goodys 3/4 time message was simple - Bang it forward no matter what. No science involved.

Trac did just that

ANB calmly threaded the needle after that and Sparrow's huge kick (not for him though) did the rest.

But Trac won that first contest and follwed the coaches instruction.

9 hours ago, FlashInThePan said:

How good is a football team when a player like Clarry feels like another player on his team is carrying him?!

Its a fascinating interview. Very articulate young man with huge self awarenes.

9 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Going by the TV replay, Goody was up and about after Sparrows goal. I was pretty comfortable after that goal, and knew it was ours after Clarry lined his up moments later.

Oliver said in his recent interviw that the gather from harmes and goal by fritsch was his turning point .

He said he thought we needed 1 goal to steady the nerves and with the best kick he's ever seen -fritsch - with the ball he started walking back to the centre . Certain that he would kick it. Then just get the job done with the team "...on Tracs shoulders..."

12 hours ago, Sydney_Demon said:

Hello Demon17. Whether Melbourne has won 17 Premierships or 17 Wooden Spoons in a row I think is totally irrelevant to expressed views on next year's Draw for Melbourne. Whether opposition teams think playing Melbourne is a good or bad thing is likewise irrelevant.

I totally respect your view that as a collective playing one game only against each of the Swans, Giants, Cats and Tigers is better than as a collective playing one game only against each of the Bulldogs, Port, Lions and Dockers, but I think most people would disagree.

We don't get to play Port on our home turf. We play them in Alice Springs as our home game. They play their home game against us in Adelaide. Obviously, that's totally fair (not). If you're saying that playing the top teams is potentially a good thing because they are 8 point games, fair enough. I guess it works both ways. It certainly helped us 2021. Again, I think that's irrelevant as regards whether we have a good draw or not.

The point I was trying to make, however clumsily,  in my original post was that it would be harder for Melbourne supporters, particularly those that live in the Country or Interstate, to get to Wednesday night's opener, as opposed to if it had been on the Friday. Are you disagreeing with that assertion? Do you think Wednesday is better than Friday because it's the first game of the season? Do you think St Kilda and Collingwood are more deserving that Melbourne and Western Bulldogs of the Friday night fixture? I welcome your and 58's views.     

 

Irrelevance is not the issue. My comments were about opportunity.  And the dees are bettet placed than ever and good enough to beat top team contendets and benefit from so callef 8 point games. 

I dont care who we play or where but rest assured many other fans will look at the draw emotionally and dread meeting the dees twice. Its an emotional thing.

I'm not sure why you raised you wednesday night comment again. I didn't and i dont have a view either way. Not ideal for sure but the fixture has many component pressures and 7 will love the pies on a friday night instead of us. Personally I'll be watching Gardening Australa.

10 hours ago, 58er said:

Amazing SD You have made a decision for about 5,000 to 6,000 of our members that NO ONE can/will  be there on the Wed night, with the flag unfurling after 57years.

In 2018 it didn't seem to matter when we made the 8 when 90,000 plus turned up over 2 successive Friday nights,

Not everyone works kids can take a half day off school and some members are rusted on enough to be there or be square. Annual leave is available for fans if they wish to attend such an event to most people it gets back to their desire.to attend.

BTW I live interstate and it doesn't worry me Wed or Friday I will be there !!

Great call 58.

Negative comments on here are living in the past, understandably I concede, but have yet to make the leap that the Dees are now a Bona Fide powerhouse on and off field. (Premiers, $10M in the bank and no debt)

Oppo teams will be breathing a sigh of relief if they play us only once.

Other teams have double games against teams I am glad we dodged - Swans, Giants, cats, Tiges. No Sydney game.

Getting Power on our home turf is a big bonus and could be our key 8 point game, ALso with Lions, both of whom are our major threats.

Go Dees.

8 hours ago, Wrecker46 said:

Normally I read what has been written in a thread before I post.

Today I haven't bothered 

Every other team should look at the fixture and panic if they play Melbourne twice.even worse for them if it's in WA or Geelong

Great take on this issue Wrecker.

Very relaxed.

To the other 17 clubs. - Be scared - be very scared.

The Dees now have fortresses everywhere.

1 hour ago, Mazer Rackham said:

I recall a game in the Roos years when we were pushing for finals and in the second last round (I think) put in a limp performance against the Blues on our home ground which finished our chances. Embarrassing to watch their goals raining over my head all afternoon.

We owe them, cue in rack or not.

Completely agree. I see this game as our end of year %builder and we give them a flogging on our last home turf game

1 hour ago, olisik said:

Wow, of 12 possible interstate team games (Geelong included), only 3 are at the MCG.

 

Also this “While the Bulldogs have six primetime matches in those first nine weeks, premier Melbourne has three”

 

Cant help but feel we got a really bad draw this year.

We have 6 in the first 9 weeks. I count Saturday night as Prime time. And the Optus game is prime time in Melb. given time delay across the nullabor

2 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Carlton in round 22, how good would it be to snuff out their finals hopes

This will be a Cue in the rack game by the Blues. 

2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Annoyed we have to play in WA twice. 

Brisbane at the GABBA is a tough way to end the year.

We don't play at the MCG for five game in a row which is bizzare.

Double ups against Dogs, Port, Brisbane, Collingwood and Freo.

Geelong at Geelong.

Lots of prime time early.

Q'bday away game despite technically Collingwood hosting the last proper one in 2019.

 

The upside of these games (in bold above) is that we can make them 8 point games and put some serious daylight between them and us.

34 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

The thing that annoys me most about playing Geelong down in that shizen hole, is that attending the game is basically as impossible as attending an interstate game. Tickets are so limited and to get down there is not fun, particularly if it's a Friday night game. Good luck getting there on time if you're coming from Melbourne.

 

I live 500m from the GMHBA ground and never attend. Elitist club the Cats and any semblance of a reserved seat is $70 upwards. Many locals can't afford this. The crowd beahviour is appalling also. 

They NEVER fill the stadium because of this. Despite all the new Grandstands. One of which faces straight into the afternoon sun.

The upside this year though is instead of Us being scared of who we play twice, you can bet all other team fans will be looking at how many times they play the Dees instead.

9 hours ago, Demonised said:

I thought it was Brian and Hassa, then Barry Bourke and Stan Alves ...

Hassa.   Garry Lyon noted when anouncing them that they shared 5 Flags between them.