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54 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

This 12 minute news conference just loaded onto the club's website.

Compulsory viewing for all members to just appreciate how lucky the Dees are to have a first class leader in Max Gawn.

14 minutes ago, layzie said:

Overkill, he hasn't murdered anyone. Sydney Stack spent time in prison and remains on Richmond's list. The punishment is sufficient in my view, knock it on the head and move on.

 

And coming from the Suns following a wasted decade, he now misses the best home and away game of the season. 

Big Freeze at the G. This will hurt him more than any sanction anyone could apply.

18 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

It's certainly been a big news day for us. People will think we are unravelling.

Well I'm extremely angry & disappointed at May. He should have known about the concussion protocols & alcohol. 

We desperately need him back, we have lost 2 in a row, have a massive game on queen's birthday & now he misses.its his own fault & I hope he sits there Monday & realises what an [censored] he was.

Also why didn't the players step in & point out the alcohol, or maybe Jake did & Steven didn't like hearing that. 

Suddenly our club is in the headlines & not for the right reasons

[censored] happens. It's how the club and leadership handle it.

In this case they are doing just fine in upholding standards.

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

Every player at the dinner had no problem with May drinking until he got caught.

So…. They can’t exactly be emphasising the high standards.

Given 2 of our older players were there I wouldn’t be surprised if many others in the leadership group were too. 

Hit the nail on the head Deespencer.

This is close to a whole of club issue if other teamates didn't call the drinking concussion protocol at the time. May and melksham aren't alone in this escapade.

Goody and all fans and support staff would rightly be furious.

Other clubs have 1 rule for stars and harsher rules if you're not a top 22 player. (TIGES for example)

We don't so well done to club and leadership group. The dividend will be down the track.

P.s. I'm furious as well but will give my best support at the G on monday 

1 hour ago, Pates said:

I think M Brown has to stay in this week along side Benny, we have to give them a chance to work in tandem and get some continuity. Somehow we need to start making space in the forward line, I don’t know if it’s slow ball movement or not enough dummy leading but it seems as if every time we go in the it’s congested and the only option to the midfields eyes is to go to the top of the square. 

I agree with this Pates.  Last season it semmed to take up to maybe Round 20 to get the forward line functioning.  Granted we had Tom McDonald then and the talent pool is now different.

There's not a lot of fans on here for Mitch Brown but last week's first 1/4 showed me he has something to offer. Good in the air, good kick, strong 1 clunk hands. Worth perservering in the face of lesser options. Weid was allowed a few games to test out. Why not MB.

And  if we can get the pressure rating back to where it was or close, at No 1 in the comp, a healthy defence we can make Top 4 for sure then its open slather on the day.

20 minutes ago, dimmy said:

Brayshaw : Best Defender

Lever : lack of strength

Viney : Gutsy Performance

☺️

Viney threw up just after the half time siren. 

2 minutes ago, BDA said:

sure looks like it

we're just not at it like we should be

I'm glad Goody is onto it

Goodwin is taking it seriously which is a plus.

An announcement was made over the P A at the time at Casey. Everyone ordered upstairs with no notice. It was serious stuff.

Freo we fell apart with injuries. Tonight was better but horrid execution.

QB will tell.

2 weeks ago prior to freo game Goodwin called a whole of club midweek  meeting at Casey out of the blue. Players down to proverbial boot studders

He addressed his concerns about complacency creeping inside the club.

Its a thing and he's concerned.

Source? An attendee at the session.

9 hours ago, Kit Walker said:

Dogs in real trouble to make finals - may need 13 wins this year given how terrible West Coast, North and Essendon are. That means 7-3 from now on with a tough draw

Exactly KW.

13 needed this year and its the old question.  Who goes out for the Dogs .?  For mine there are at least 8 teams above them.  Bailey Smith did another 1 way running perforamnce a la GF final 1/4,  and Naughton seems overated and young de Koning was excellent.

10 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Swap May with Tommo and that’s our best 22 right there. 

Spot on. But I do have a soft spot for Hibberd in defence.

Was very happy he was in the PF 22 when May went down

How good is AFL Counsel Andrew Woods.?   Cut and paste from AFL.Com.au below;

referncing Fight Club,  - brilliant. Game over surely.

"BRAZEN, COWARDLY"

32 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

5:12pm Should have been thrown out by now, surely

If its not Jntmac,....

in the words of the great Terry Wallace,   "....I'll spew up..."

18 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

No way Jordon or Bowza misses out. Both have been very consistent and quite prolific. Bowza’s disposal has suffered a bit but is still better than average. 

Agree on the above. I don't understand the issue with Jordan, watching him clsoely all season as he plays on the wing closest to our seats, and Bowza's decison making is elite, as identified as a key factor of Taylor's when drafting him. 

Essential to have that in defence, cool head under pressure and he's more than worth his spot, even with a down day last week he had plenty of mates.

59 minutes ago, rjay said:

Companies from the USA know everything 'Red', the amazing thing is they will still pick someone currently working at head office for the role.

Who would have seen that coming.

With a bit of luck I will be wrong but it's been a closed shop for a while now.

Of course. Classic Board Chair captains pick and begs the question about relevancy of other Directors. They found a ceo for Woodside but no experience in sport like many others more qualified. 

No tender for a fee possibly in 100's of tbousands. At 33% of year 1 salary. Next he'll lecture us on good governance of clubs.

Says something about Richard Goyder and ( Possibly ) poor inputs by others around the table IMO

4 hours ago, Winners at last said:

It was actually 17 ... like your name!!!

Thanks. The wins all seem the same after a while and i lost count. Except for the pf and gf that is.

9 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

I can't stand revisionism and this is no exception.

We ended the H&A season 17-1-4 with a percentage of 130.8%. We beat 16 of the 17 other sides, including Port Adelaide (2nd) in Adelaide, Geelong (3rd) in Geelong, the Dogs (5th and runners up) at Marvel and GWS (7th) in Canberra.

We were supreme in finals but we were exceptional in the H&A season. We didn't do a 2016 Dogs and fluke a September run, we developed incredible form across 23 rounds and then found everything click into place in a near-perfect way in the finals.

Great post response to a a ridiculous comment on the 2021 season being a "myth".

Just finished a 16 win streak from last season into nearly mid-2022. Last season and the falg wasno fluke -  neither is this year. I think the team is even better given its consolidated belief in winning. 

1 hour ago, Clintosaurus said:

It all changed when Petty was crocked. Until then Freo had bugger all.

Thats for sure.

Petty took up the May/final sweeper role soon as May went off and was doing OK. Then injured and we lost all back shape. 

But up to then it was winnbale. 

11 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Mate we still need to fix our entry to FWD 50 that's the main worry at the moment. It is disgraceful to be honest, can't remember more than a couple marks inside 50.

Of course our defence won't be exposed like that again, but if we can't pile up the goals we keep the opposition alive.

In the 2nd we missed at least a couple more goals, should've had a 40+ margin going to the HT. Who knows maybe that would've been enough to dampen Freos spirit.

Fully agree with all of the above ElD.  Its nearly been an all-season issue inside 50.

The 12 goals to 1 is such an outlier though as I said its almost not worth considering the scale, except there are lessons to be learned and yesterday's defence won't be the one at the sharp end of the seson.

Your comment i highlighted above is spot on when compared to what the dogs did to the eagles last night. Not an outcome we seem to be capable of .

Our premiership defence and team overall was outscored 1 goal to 12 after half time.

Absolute outlier of a result even missing may and salem.

Freo are kidding Themselves if they think this will happen again. As are we from our side.

25 % of premiership team missing. Have faith for when the cavalry arrive. But we learned a bit more about weid(prior to his compulsory shift to defence) and dunstan.

And play BBB Like the suns did to naughton and He's in a bit of trouble unless We can fix it also.

9 minutes ago, ManDee said:

I believe the umpires are the arbiters of time. The time keepers start and stop the clock and blow the siren. The umpires signal the end of the game after they hear the siren. Probably a fifty as is did delay play. 

We were told to play to the umpires whistle not the siren or anything else.

 

Correct. Which is why when before start of the match the umpires walk out the siren is blown and the umpire in charge signals by a hand up that he/she has heard it as a signal to the timekeeper.

27 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Yes but the umpire didn’t hear it. That was the whole point. The siren blew for about a minute until the umpire put up his arms to acknowledge it. Go back and you will hear the commentators mentioning the siren but umpires oblivious.

If umpire had heard siren, game would have stopped and Stynes probably doesn’t even chase his man. I don’t believe Howlett would have paid a 50m if he had heard the siren.

Well described Redleg. I was in the pocket and heard the siren which made the whole experience surreal - as well as heartbreaking.

8 hours ago, deva5610 said:

But the rule doesn't say anything about "time wasting". It says "delays or impedes the play". Kicking the ball into the stands is delaying the play. Should've been a 50 IMO, but I can't say that it bothers me after seeing some of the faces.

This isn't new.

Poor umpiring indisputably cost us the Crows game last season. Move on tiges. The Dees did.

It happnes , but the laughable angle is listening to the umpires attempts at justification.

It was common sense last night, just don't try and get any at other times mid-games often, especially the insufficient attempt rule when the ball goes out of bounds.

The Dees are not IN the window, whatever that means.

We ARE the window. 

Thus not applicable to us.

11 hours ago, BAMF said:

No point naming someone a 'rising' star if they have two premiership medals around their necks. They are a star already! 

Fingers crossed 🤞

Spot on BAMF.  Rising Star award now is more of a retrospective thing given the above re: young Jake.

In the GF he was serious star material already with his cool-headed pass to Brayshaw, outlet work in defence (Lever to Bowey in 3rd 1/4 to slow down game, then correct decsion to May),  ability to fearlessly contest, again in third 1/4,..................................................... 17 disposals,  four  1 percenters (4th highest in the team),.....etc.

1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I saw that.  Was also a little (pleasantly) surprised about Jackson, as other more experienced ruckmen get talked up in the media.  Shows what they know!

Ryder was a little modest not putting himself second.  Nonetheless, second or third it was very high praise for Jackson, coming from one of the best, who knows what he is talking about.

Nice to seer peer recogniton from Ryder for Jackson.

But Jackson plays ruck in the manner of a basketball centre, aiiming for top of the throw but with excellent follow up on the ground which most rucks don't have.  I suspect Ryder rated this as a quality.