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20 hours ago, gs77 said: Presuming they are streaming at a lower bitrate as there'd be a lot of simultaneous demand for the live stream (putting more pressure on servers), whereas replays are not all watched simultaneously.
That probably covers it.
20 hours ago, gs77 said: Presuming they are streaming at a lower bitrate as there'd be a lot of simultaneous demand for the live stream (putting more pressure on servers), whereas replays are not all watched simultaneously.
That probably covers it
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1 hour ago, chookrat said: Not sure but last year I did their $1 for 1 month special offer x 3 times (for a total of $3) which covered the periods we played away games that were not on free to air and then attended most home games. I struggle with Kayo due to the poor streaming quality that is worse than 7HD.
It beggars belief how bad Kayo's picture quality is. What intrigues me is live the quality is average at its best. But watch the same game on replay and it is considerably better Why? I watch NBL on Kayo and it is good as well why AFL?
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9 hours ago, Redleg said: I don’t know the funding breakdown, but someone mentioned $30m from Government.
If that’s true, guessing a Federal State even split, that is $15m each.
That is a drop in the bucket.
The State Government is according to media reports spending over a billion dollars on its Treaty program, so what is honoring say a $15M promise to a football club, that unlike others you have given heaps to, has not received a cent from you.
A small waste saving by both Governments would cover it easily.
Even if the Governments walked away, creating perhaps 100000 angry Dees and community voters, I believe we could find the money as I have posted earlier.
There are many ways to raise money, just for example, increased membership, voluntary membership fee increase for a period, with added benefits like store, restaurant and attraction discounts and MRC membership , raffles, merchandise sales, new sponsors, donors, Council assistance, etc, etc and we would just have to work harder and smarter to get it.
Hopefully see you all at Caulfield training in a couple of years.
There are approx 50k members and perhaps a few more supporters who don't put their hand in their pocket. A very large percentage of that number have never voted for Labor in there lives. I will be generous and say if 50k got their nickers in a not after no money being supplied to the MFC it would make no difference to a election as unlike clubs like Geelong, a membership largely in a recognised area our members are spread across the state. IMO
Losing a few thousand votes spread across the state will not change the government. Actually they don't need to commit now they can easily delay for 10 months .
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On 06/01/2026 at 16:02, Demon Disciple said: I doubt a ‘future fund’ would get much success, as supporters have been told many a time that something is coming soon and have rightfully figured out that it is just bs.
Many, myself included, will be reluctant to donate to a cause that remains a dream. I’m sure when/if the time ever comes that we finally break ground, money will quickly flow in from supporters.
DD there a lot of members who could not afford it. A lot struggle to buy a membership a hit of $100 would be the straw.
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6 hours ago, chookrat said: Per other comments above I cannot see the State Government not contributing given they have an obligation to contribute financially to the facilities of all Victorian AFL clubs, that we have recieved by far the least funding of all AFL clubs and have the worst facilities of any AFL clubs. If this is genuinely a stumbling block then perhaps we start talks with the NT Governments re what they could offer if we relocate.
An obligation to contribute! Governments seldom spend money on an obligation. It is always to make themselves look good. For a Labor party government that is broke spending money on silver tail clubs like racing and football is not a good look to their voters who's electorates are crying for funds. Just one item Take a drive around the outer west, the roads are in terrible nick with a multitude pot holes etc. There are no labour votes for giving money to the MFC. IMO finance i
7 hours ago, Redleg said: I don’t see a Government contribution of say $30m being removed, as scuttling the project.
First, it would be unlikely to not get anything, if that was the figure that was originally promised, even if there was a reduction and secondly, say 30000 adult members of the MFC, if there was no other way to get the missing contribution, would only need to up their membership by $100.00 a year for 10 years to cover that whole amount.
That member contribution of course relates to the whole $30m and without any other efforts to find that amount.
I don’t see us losing a Government contribution, given the contribution made to other clubs.
Also with Tassie coming in, the TV rights will increase and the AFL may have more to provide if there was a shortfall.
Then of course there will be the extra money we will get for winning the next few flags.
s the big one for us. If we had $50 millions to contribute to the project it would under way now. As is don't hold your breath. With the election on 10 months away this project will remaining in the planning stage for another year or two. How long has the rail link to the city been discussed? At least 20 years and still not a sod turned.
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10 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said: Spot on.....
Even this thread has been going since 2020, and for the older people on this site, it goes back even longer...
At the "merger" rallies Brian Dixon said something along the lines of "we don't want second rate facilities like Glenferrie...we want the best in the league"
That was now 30 years ago, and we still don't have anything!
In recent times we have been told the Board has been investigating:
A facility outside the MCG toward Jolimont station. Never going to fly because of local resident opposition ...ever. Yet time and effort was wasted.
Car Park F at AAMI....still left us with substandard oval on Public land at Gosch's with shared facilities with Storm, Victory etc
Car Park E at AAMI ...overlooked by Collingwoods facility, and an even smaller footprint...yeah that'll work!
We were promised by the CEO at a sponsors event in 2022 that something would be definitely be announced by year end, but could't say anything yet because it was "commercial in confidence"
4 years later we have the same with Caulfied....can't say anything, even after redevelopment was touted in 2023!
I have confidence in one thing George. I will never see a new/ good home for the MFC. I have heard so many options from so many boards that I just roll my eyes these days. It is a half century wait and counting.
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I actually think there are ones that are far worse than the Grey version. Not a Jumper but those bloody awful Blazers we got from Cameron Schwab is the worst thing we have forced our players to wear by the length of the Flemington straight.
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34 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said: $15m for local sports fields isn’t swinging any election, so it’s irrelevant and won’t impact on this. Both a Labor or Lib government would be funding improvements to local facilities.
They spend billions on infrastructure projects, $15m is a drop in the ocean.
15 million you have to be joking. It is long way above that figure.
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18 minutes ago, Redleg said: The school is not wanting control over the ovals. Fact.
The ovals are an MFC project, not a school project, that they know will be built near the MFC facilities, not the school. Fact.
That under the banner of community use, they may get some limited use, when not needed by the primary user the MFC. Fact.
Over and out.
Sadly I don't think it is. With a state election due in 2026 it will not look good giving us money. I can easily see this slipping out till after the election. A libs win will see them attempting to reduce expenditure and reduce the states borrowings. I cannot see this going ahead this decade.
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On 14/12/2025 at 13:44, Blind_turn said: I recently ventured out to the Kennedy Community Centre to check out Hawthorn’s new training base.
I then did some work to see if I could roughly answer three questions:
1. Would a Hawthorn (or Essendon) sized training facility fit on the south-east corner of the Caulfield site?
Yes. The footprint of Hawthorn's main training and administration building is about 9,300 sqm, adding car parking etc, it fits on our site.
We, of course will have our ovals inside the racetrack, so there is the added cost of a tunnel. But the walk from the buildings to the ovals would "only" be about 200 metres.
2. How much would it cost, how would it be funded?
Hawthorn states on their website that their facility cost $113mil. Below is a table of what I think our new development would cost and assuming we could garner the same level of government funding, what the club need to come up with.
There are two things worth noting in the above comparison:
a. We will not own the land, so unlike Hawthorn, the club will have an ongoing lease cost that we will have to fund each year.
b. The reason the above numbers are less than Hawthorn’s is that they had to build an additional grandstand on their second oval for their women’s program. We will continue to use Casey as our second campus.
3. When could we realistically expect to be in the new home base?
Optimistically, late 2028, more likely late 2029.
On 16/12/2025 at 22:54, Redleg said: Well the President did say "we are really close and we will share more as soon as we are able to."
I guess that means that we are not allowed to announce anything yet and I assume that is because one of the stakeholders has told us not to.
Caulfield will happen and it will just need a bit more patience before it is officially announced.
It is disappointing though that the President couldn't elaborate a bit more, without making an official announcement.
I am as frustrated at that as everyone else on here.
I suggest Mr. Leg that the Vic government is the hold up. No idea where they are going to get multiple $millions for a silver tails club, the same applies to the racing club. The whole thing involves hundreds of millions. It is not a good look to be giving that figure to a horse racing club and Football club both of which are seen the top end of town when our hospitals are falling apart.
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51 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said: “We are close”……………we’ve been told that we’re close going on 4 years now.
Not good enough.
I think you are wrong it's closer to 6 years.
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49 minutes ago, DeeZone said: Just listened to Steven Smith, Paul Guera, Sally Freeman and Steven King and Mr Chippendall, very well spoken group of individuals and feel that we are in very good hands. Would have loved a bit more on Caulfield but that can wait we are financially sound and reenergised, King really handled himself well and Instills confidence.
Thanks Dezone.
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I have attended the AGM for most of the last 25 years but tonight will be the second in a row that I have not attended sadly the mind is willing but the body is telling me different. I look forward to hearing from people who attend tonight. Go Dees.
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On 13/12/2025 at 13:05, Go Ds said: I wouldnt be surprised if a big rift derails some clubs' seasons. Out on the field it has to us versus them, not us vs them AND them. If that was our team last year then there may be a lot of improvement next year.
He's hopping!
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22 hours ago, Ghostwriter said: Further on the subject of Vines seemingly having a weight lifted from his shoulders, despite being injured, he definitely is different now. And he’s not the only one. I see a similar thing with Melky, Max and Tmac. They seem to be less burdened, if you will. I spoke with one of the medics and he said it’s probably because of all the changes and that Kingy has a reassuring way about him. This makes sense.
I was introduced to our new “psych” as he calls himself. His name is David. He’s about 6ft5 and very softly spoken and gentle-natured. I felt like I’d had a professional session with him, minus the $600 fee 😁
David only started two days ago which means we’ve been psych-less since Stephen Rendall left months ago. Maybe we haven’t had a desperate need for one, therefore not in a hurry to fill the position 🤷♀️
Hmm anyone is mind Gw? I have a couple.
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On 02/12/2025 at 08:28, Demonsone said: I can just see it … tigers will go to Waverley & Caulfield will just drag on & on to fall over due to zip funding from a broke state gvt
Sadly I think you are right. Even if they had the money as you say it is unlikely in a election year would a labour government come up with 10's of millions for a silver tails club. No votes there but a substantial loss of support from the cross party voters is likely It is said as little as 5% of voters change governments, their votes are what a labour government needs to keep or as many as possible.
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38 minutes ago, beelzebub said: Actually... nor am I.
Thinking it's stalled...not stopped... but stalled.
Stalled! What's the time frame on stalled? When does stalled become stopped? I have no idea but imo my gut tells me it is closer to stopped than stalled. I cannot get passed the problem " where is the money coming from".
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2 hours ago, Demon Disciple said: Yep I’m gonna be the negative Nellie by saying that contracts seemingly mean nothing anymore…….🤪
Only while the player wants DD. The system is weighted too much in the player favour. The AFL is scared someone will take to it court on restrictive trade so they leen in the players favour. It won't change.
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56 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said: Definitely for renewal. Bring on Rivers & Chandler
CF to be captain you have to be a first pick every game. Rivers is a chance but Chandler is average at best. I will be surprised if he plays more than 10 games in 2026.
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On 07/12/2025 at 10:28, Ghostwriter said: Spoiler warning: Santa’s NOT real
Saturday 13th December
8:30am - 11:30am
Gosch’s Paddock
This isn’t a training session. The players will be there for autographs and photos.
Once the players have left, folks can go on the oval and play kick-to-kick 🏉
There’ll be partner giveaways and other freebies.
Food and coffee vans will be there but you won’t need them because the…
DEMON ARMY SAUSAGE SIZZLE
… is where it’s at! Delicious snags in bread with or without onion and a can of soft drink… the breakfast of champions!(apologies to Mr. Vonnegut).
And it wouldn’t be a Christmas do without the portly guy in a Santa suit, now would it. You and yours can get photos taken with him.
See y’all there!
So that's why I never get the Porsche I order every year. Dawm!
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3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said: Well its been confirmed that he will be missing the first 12 games if the year.
They can easily place him on the inactive list from here on as it would be considered a long term injury especially if they want to be extra cautious and give him more time off or even the full 12 months.
It's hard to see him making much contribution in 2026. Fancy waking up after surgery to be told your season is over before even Christmas has arrived.
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2 hours ago, Demonstone said: I'm sure that @old dee would be happy to share his recollections of the day.
Sadly I could not get the day off work to attend!
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Training Ground?
in Melbourne Demons
A page or two back I said that I will never see the completion of a permanent home PF. It beggars belief that this has been going on for decades. IMO past boards were hampered by the need for it be near the G when blindly Fredy could see that was never going to happen. It would be nice for once for the board to come out and say this is the plan and we are waiting because of X,Y and Z. Instead of the silence we have endured for decades. Oh some would say we cannot tell you because we are sworn to secretresy. I am confident that this confidentiality card is used to hide the fact we are going nowhere fast as the projects of the past has shown.