old dee

59 minutes ago, sue said:

Simple. They have a bigger membership than us.

That covers it perfectly!

52 minutes ago, sue said:

Looks good to me. Is anyone still calling for Lamb to be roasted?

Never fear one will pop up.

33 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Oliver out, Steele in is a great result from that situation.

We did okay in the Petracca trade, but I'm biased because I'm going to love death-riding Gold Coast 2026.

Mihocek and Jiath are each players I've thought 'Yeah, that's probably the only player I like at that club', so now I can 100% hate Collingwood and Hawthorn. Plus, they are terrific for causing trouble at Spelling Bees.

Max Heath is actually the least known of the players for me, but, he is also perhaps the most exact description of what we urgently needed to acquire. Moderate chance we'll be watching a true successor, and hopefully he'll at least be giving good contests and ruck cover up forward. Is this the end of the 'Gawn set shot missing left from 30m in front' era?

But here's a mental summary for me - the contrast with 2012.

Dawes, Byrnes, Rodan and Pederson, of whom only Rodan had much of a profile or body of work.

Mihocek, Jiath, Steele and Heath is clearly a major step up. It's like one set was recruiting to 'dominate VFL' and the other recruiting for 'contributors at AFL'.

I am calm and content.

Except now I'm anticipating the draft, with the 2012ish period in my mind. Ugh. Will those picks bring us 'Toumpas and Cook' or 'Salem and Hogan'?

Always something to be anxious about at Demonland.

MH has effectively taken Verrall's spot as the up and coming ruckman. I don't believe I have seen Max however he has played senior games and hit the score board. Verall was at best a VFL player in fact he never really played a very good game in his 3 years. The addition of MH imo is a definite step up.

1 hour ago, lorn said:

Feels like a Jack Billings situation again

He is a better kick to start.

2 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

They’re all very sad days for different reasons. And there’s plenty to choose from. I have a friend who says for her there will never be a day sadder than Boxing Day 2004 💔

Good point I had forgotten that one.

8 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

Possibly our saddest day in 60 years.

Hmm there have been some shockers in that period. I would say losing Gus would be worse. That's in later years.

19 minutes ago, Skrull said:

this will be one of the saddest days for the club in a decade.

I feel the same, that makes 2 of us.

1 hour ago, Young Angus said:

Send him to Collingwood for DeGoey.

No thanks we lose out both ways. I would not touch DeGoey with a barge pole.

52 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Got room for me?

Yep! I will even let you pick the sheet colours. Now I await for all the smart replies!

13 minutes ago, No10 said:

If this is the deal the Suns are landing a steal.

This isn’t a win / win, it’s a massive win / lose.

If we take it, it says Trac must be toxic.

So imagine if we don’t make a trade today and he has to return! I think I will spent the next year hiding under the Doona.

12 hours ago, DeeZone said:

Let’s face it we were all smitten with Clarry Choo Choo at the time and would have been disgusted with the club had we lost him to another club. We had no reason to believe his form would not continue in a similar vein to his previous seven years, [censored] happens unfortunately. How could we have known that Clayton would go off the rails, Gus would be knocked unconscious and retired and that Tracc would be so badly injured that he fell out of love with the club in a two year period. It’s not the clubs fault it is just mind numbing tragic.

Spot on DeeZone, a trail of destruction that no one in the FD or board could have seen coming.

I may have missed it but have there been any comments on what GWS are offering for Oliver?

10 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Ask @old dee , I think he and her were an item once.

A bit young for me NC.

12 hours ago, BoBo said:

This is where I get a bit conflicted. I agree with what you’re saying, but on the flip side, (this is the opposite side of the paying contracted players that leave the club coin), players have also signed contracts with clubs that they are required to fulfil. So if we don’t get to a stage that we feel like we have gotten a good deal… then he’s a contracted player and that’s kinda that.

That’s flattening dynamics a hellava lot I realise, but if the players are going to try and leave on contracts and do it in a ‘this is just the business’ sense, then conversely, that attitude/ethos also applies the opposite way.

He signed a massive, long term contract with us so that can’t only cut one way IMO.

The whole contract system is a joke. It seems to me it is only binding when it suits the player. Some of these long contracts currently being offered are ridiculous. Take Oliver, the club tells him his role will change next year, he spits the dummy and wants out. If he does achieve this desire he can claim mental problems and simply refuse to take the field. The MFC has no choice but to pay him. IMO if a player wants out and club agrees then the contract should end there and he negotiates a new deal with the new club. This porting your salary from the old team to the new one is [censored].

On 10/10/2025 at 20:15, Coolx2 said:

Pick 7 and 8 will blow out in a weak draft , top it off with the Petracca deal ,the Suns want pick 24.This would be pathetic if we accept any of it. What are the Suns going to give for JUH?

I am 99% sure Petracca is going to play in the red and blue next year.

I am not.

1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

How badly do we want him back ?

He's gone nowhere quite yet.

How badly do we need him gone ??

I don't want to see either leave but imo it is past the point of no return.

16 minutes ago, demoncat said:

The idea is that Humphrey will eventually become a midfielder, and is actually very similar to Trac in terms of how his career is progressing

So why would gcs want to lose him. There is more games ahead of him than trac, they are probably paying him substantial less as well. Is there any reliable info that he wants to leave?

9 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

We're ushering out 2 mids..

We need at least one back.. from somewhere.

Picks only garner us some wet behind the ears kid(s) . I really dont thinks picks cuts the mustard .

I have seen nothing that suggests there are quality mids available. The only player we are showing interest in is the guy from GCS and he is a forward. Like it or leave it the replacements for trac and Oliver are going to come from the within, the last couple of years recruits will need to step up.

6 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

I disagree. WIth Oliver going there's more room for a midfield with him and Viney. He's a professional so will train hard and perform. WIth a new coach / voice and development of the kids and more attacking gameplan, he might fall back in love with the club.

I think for the MFC it's better to hold than trade him for unders.

There lies the question what is a fair deal for the MFC? It seems to me that GCS are holding most of the cards, how badly do we want him back, I suspect not at all. Talk of having him back IMO is to try and strength out position. He has played his last game at the MFC.

32 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

But in this instance thats a stance we can take. It's Traccs idea to go. We dont have to give him away.

If the deal isn't to our liking...which we said at the outset then... yep.. walk away until they come to the party.

No need to settle for seconds.... we've already said he WILL play for us unless a satisfactory deal is offered

We both know that this is just mfc's starting position in dealing . At this point there is next to no chance of that happening BB. He will be at GCS the only thing up for decision is the cost to GCS. We will hang in there till close to the end then take the offered deal. I suspect that GCS would like him but not at to high a price. That I know of no price has been nominated at this point so I have no idea what we see as a good deal. 2 high draft picks and only paying a small amount of his salary seems a good outcome.

27 minutes ago, chookrat said:

100% OD. Imagine if us nuffies on Demonland were negotiating trades 😅, after one season clubs would either refuse to negotiate with us or not take our position seriously.

Imagine if we took the take it or leave it attitude and they left it. I can already hear the screams of sack the FD, pres, coach and the board.

31 minutes ago, sue said:

I don't know how much it was ham-fisted by us or an over-reaction by Oliver. I doubt anyone here does.

And probably never will.

15 hours ago, Coolx2 said:

I would only take an insane offer for Oliver if GWS pay his full Wage and we pick up a couple of their fringe players otherwise it is no deal .

I am sick of this club getting screwed over.

Except we created the position we find ourselves. It would different if Oliver had said I want out but he didn't. We were IMO ham fisted with how we handled this, again IMO he has the moral high ground.

3 hours ago, picket fence said:

If I was at breaking piont with the Clarry fiasco, then unless this club plays hardball and demands B.H for Tracc then I'm done, as this club are NOT serious about being succesful.

PF are you 100% commited to that statement? Second if we used your suggested methods we would end up with nothing re the X Essendon [censored] who just got everyone's back up and largely got very little for the bombers. It's a give and take affair. Also we told Oliver to look around so he holds the moral hi ground. On the last day it will be who blinks first. GWS would like him if the cost is reasonable if it is not we are left with a guy who cannot come back and will use mental problems ( he has history on his side) and we will have to pay him a $million for zero return.

2 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

🎵I am leaving I am leaving but the fighter still remains🎵

My father used to tell me never issue a threat unless you are 100% commited to follow through with it. Over the last 65 years there have been many many times I felt like saying I am over this club and walk. However there was that little 0.5% that reminded me I would come back and hear I am.

15 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

(Unsurprisingly) That statement makes no sense at all.

You claim Jefferson is not a senior level player & Kentfield is despite Kentfield never having played a senior game & only just finding his feet at Casey.

All makes sense.

Yes I could have worded it better. Kentfield is untride at senior level. However I think those are our KPF's for 2026.