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1 hour ago, dees189227 said: Just like the supposed airport rail link we're meant to get here in Melbourne, I'm sick of hearing about this training facility.
Just tell me when it's completed
Ok but you may not hear from us for 2-3 years. Is that ok?
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39 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: The only time I watch FTA now is when the Grand Final or Aus Open is on. Been that way for more than 10 years. But watch plenty of ABC view/SBS on demand too.
I bought the digital
It's been fine the last couple of years
It has improved Dr. But last season it was still behind the picture quality of channel 7. When a match was on both 7 and Kayo we flicked between both and 7 was better. Over the summer I have replaced my tv set, it will be interesting to see if it improves this season. We only buy digital not 4K. The funny think if you watch a replay it was better than the live telecast. Better electronic brains than mine may be able to tell us why is it so. I have watched NBL games live over summer and the picture seems to be of good quality. I am looking forward to seeing the quality of the state of origin game later this month. If not for that test I would not bother. It's just a fob to the group who want state of origin returned.
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13 hours ago, Macca said: The VFL doesn't get a decent TV or streaming audience these days, old dee. That's why Ch7 dropped off
The powers that be at the AFL would be way more concerned with the costs of running the comp. After all, with regards to the AFL, it's about the $$$'s
I compared the VFL to the Sheffield Shield, as that comp (the Shield) would cost a small fortune to run (every year) The Shield might be run better but the stands are empty and I wouldn't imagine many would be watching via streaming (I do watch, occasionally)
But CA has India to pay the bills ... it has previously been noted that CA receives $5Million - $8Million for every while ball game played involving Australia & India. That's why we play India every year in the shortened form (in effect, India pays CA to run the Sheffield Shield) Thank you, India
One of the biggest costs for the VFL would be all the airfares, accommodation, Doctors, Physio's and all rest of it because we have 5 Northern State teams & a Tassie team involved in the VFL ... and those 6 teams are entrenched in VFL for the foreseeable future. It is what it is
But I'm not sure why we have 4 teams having a bye in the first round of the VFL when there's an even number of teams involved (22)
Makes no sense but we're talking about the AFL where they can't even manage to call the opening round in the AFL, Round 1 (?)
It's quite funny Macca I laugh every time I see the second round referred to as round 1 it is a classic case of the Emperor has no clothes. On a number of cases every year they treat there audience with contempt, I actually think they believe that their decisions are beyond reproach.
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15 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said: Not to worry you OD but a ban on password sharing is almost a certainty in the next two years.
Then they will offer a version with ads and another more expensive version relatively ad free.
Kayo simply cannot make a profit in Australia given the cost of rights that the AFL and NRL have become used to. In years to come we will look upon Uncle Rupert as a great benefactor by comparison.
Spot on DJ we simply have too small of a population. Enjoy for the next couple of years. After that I may not care the body is fading fast. This may be the last season I attend games. I no longer go to mid winter night games or the way the Pies/Tigers games. Way to many people and I am not sitting in the oxygen deprived 3rd tier. As someone famous once said " you have to know your abilities".
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1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said: Not to worry you OD but a ban on password sharing is almost a certainty in the next two years.
Then they will offer a version with ads and another more expensive version relatively ad free.
Kayo simply cannot make a profit in Australia given the cost of rights that the AFL and NRL have become used to. In years to come we will look upon Uncle Rupert as a great benefactor by comparison.
I am surprised she still gets away with it DJ. We will continue till they catch up with us. Leaving aside “ news” I seldom watch FTA programs I find a lot of the programs low grade. The multitude of so called reality shows appeal to the lowest level of humanity. I don’t think I am alone as overall FTA viewers seems to shrink every year. They seem to live off News, Sport and “Reality” [censored]. Most nights that I watch TV I go straight to the streaming Chanel’s. We pay for Netflix, Prime ( It’s a good offer as it gets you prime membership with advatanges on Amazon like free delivery) and Kayo. I actually watch quite a bit on SBS On Demand.
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51 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said: Watch out......Gosch's is in the firing line for the AO:
“There’s an oval on the other side of Gosch’s Paddock, AAMI Park, the MCG, these are good pieces of land and property, which we would look at and expand into,” Tiley said.
......maybe they will pay for us to set up home at Caulfield?
I would not hold you breath George.
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Would you believe I today received an email from Kayo telling me that my membership is increasing to $29.99 per month and increase of $5.99 ( 1 stream in HD ). Hmm an almost 25% increase.
I will pay it because my wife cannot attend Games due to mobility problems ( gee the ageing process is fun). I use it for VFL games and replays etc. I do watch a bit of F1, I watch qualifying then highlights of the races. These days the race winner is mostly decided by their qualifying position. This summer my teenage Granddaughter has been keen to watch Basketball both NBA and NBL games we often watch games together when she visits ( she lives close). A story from just yesterday, we had returned home after an early evening game in which she plays. She rang me to see if she could use my Kayo account to watch a BB game. After the call it occurred to me that I probably spend more time watching and attending BB than I do Football ( Demonland excepted ) these days. She plays in two competitions one Friday nights (Rep league under 16's) and one late afternoon Saturdays (Domestic under 18's) we go to both. My wife can go because I can drop her at the door to the stadium and then its a 20 metre walk from there. Add in my reluctance to attend mid winter night games of AFL and I guess $30 a month is not bad value and fortunately for me I can afford it but a 25% increase is still hard to swallow.
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31 minutes ago, Harvey Wallbanger said: I have seen various mutterings from the AFL before that they "are studying" the long-term solution to go back to a "proper" Reserves set-up where all 18 (soon to be 19) AFL teams participate - that of course leaves the stand-alone clubs nowhere - presumably many would fold? Casey? Obviously a huge cost issue if reserves played curtain-raisers that matched up with the AFL fixture.
While this study goes on we get what we get - a real hotchpotch.
Harvey this study would appear to being done by a mirror committee, they are looking into it.
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On 28/01/2026 at 19:21, Macca said: The VFL is much like the Sheffield Shield in cricket. Absolutely necessary but heavily subsidised ($$$'s)
And no longer any room on FTA TV for either competition. Not enough people want to watch it
ODI's in cricket went the same way once t20 became the preferred choice
There's just too much other big-time sport to watch (or attend) these days
Tennis has record numbers as does the F1's. Then there's the big 4 USA sports and the various soccer competitions
The Sheffield Shield competition is at least a fairly well run affair, comparing it to the VFL is like comparing a cold to Covid.
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I have looked at a number of threads, but I could not find one that I thought fitted so I am creating a new thread I hope it shows something.
It is not news to anyone on Demondland that this competition is supposed to be the AFL feeder competition and it is far from being a good event for the clubs involved. It has teams from three states, the clubs competing are made up of three types, Affiliated with and AFL club e.g. Casey, Clubs that are holey owned by an AFL club e.g. Collingwood and then clubs who are stand alone e.g. Williamstown.
This structure is a dogs breakfast, it doesn't seem to serve any club well.
E.G. there are too many byes, a player who is dropped because of a loss of form finds himself unable to play after being dropped to improve his performance , Injured players returning to the game can find himself only playing two games in a month because of Byes. The competition has a number of clubs that formed part of the original VFA which was swallowed up buy the AFL when it created a second tier feeder competition for its clubs. There are three perhaps more who cannot compete at anywhere near the competition top and constantly reside at the bottom of the competition. I don't see any benefit of having these clubs in the league, how does it benefit a team beating a club like Coburg by big margins. I have always been told that winning when you are far superior to your opponent does nothing for either team. The loser sinks further mentally and for the winner it is a poor training run that does nothing to show up the teams problem areas.
Now the most important part in my opinion, The AFL does very little to promote this second tier and seems happy the go along with a competition that has numerous flaws. I read today in an article that had nothing to do with the VFL per say that the VFL will not be supported by television this year. Channel 7 will not provide coverage in 2026. Not even a game of the round.
Where is the comment from the Media? I see zero comment on the problems of the VFL feeder competition by the media. Are they too scared to lose their AFL accreditation to write critical stories? How do the stand only clubs hope to raise enough funds to compete at the top when their main revenue source of expose by televised games has now been removed. Where is the value in a company sponsoring a club when the only team exposure is a few hundred people who go to games?
Ok, enough of my rambling, I think this is a broken concept the AFL constantly sweeps under the carpet.
Does anyone see any answers?
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1 hour ago, Redleg said: Last week I spoke to some people at Glen Eira who should know, but didn't really.
They said the City of Glen Eira is in favour of us at the racecourse and expected community benefit.
They didn't know what the hold up is, but they thought it could be State Government finance as a guess.
That suggests that Glen Eira is not involved in ongoing discussions.
The school is 100% in favour of the MFC and they are aligned.
I haven't heard what the Trust is saying, but it would have been a yes, or no, a long time ago.
The people at a committee lunch on a race day at the MRC, were told by the MRC Chairman in his welcome speech that the MFC would be their neighbour soon.
Therefore it does seem there is something else stopping progress info and an announcement and perhaps it is in fact the State Government.
Obviously there is ongoing discussion about specifics of the project, but I would imagine the reason we are not getting any info, is because of an embargo on it and the likely responsible party for that, does seem to be the State Government. It could well be a condition of their financial contribution, that they control the narrative.
That does seem the most likely reason we are getting crickets.
If this was not happening, we would have been told by now.
A failure of this project after so many attempts, would have to in some way affect the Board's ability to continue, imo.
It is probably our most important issue, other than on field success, which is probably affected by this issue as well.
I remain in Group 1.
That being the case I would say the only chance we have of moving forward is that the state government sees some advantage of moving forward and commit a substantial amount of money to the project before the state election in November. From my view point out here in the western suburbs I see little chance of that happening. I know 3 MFC supporters around me and that is the problem we are spread all over Victoria. There is not one or two electorates that a government member could look at his electorate and say Yep my constituents would think that is a popular move that will make a substantial number think well of me. Sadly we are not a Geelong or Footscray. Out here in the west there are numerous problems that need Government attention and funds that will impress the voters, the MFC is not one of them. From your Comment Mr. Leg it would seem the MFC is lashed to an anchor called the the state government until they cut us from this anchor nothing will happen.
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12 hours ago, Harvey Wallbanger said: They don't want to wait out the school - that $190 million goes to paying off their debt.......
Then why ain’t they moving forward, the School and the MFC are keen. What is the problem. We can safely that this saga is now years in the making.
What is the hold up HW. The MFC have retracted into silence that has now been going on through multiple GM’s, multiple Presidents and boards. What is the hold up that has driven people underground for now years?
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On 30/01/2026 at 13:20, Gorgoroth said: North side, south side...
TBH I don't think we will know anything for months yet. If we have a home base by 2030 I'll be amazed!
You are not alone Gorgoroth. I don’t believe the Racing club want to share. They have had it all to themselves for 150 years and believe they can out wait schools and pesky football clubs. They simply don’t want us or anyone else there. Drag it out till November this year and chances are there will be a change of government and it all starts again. A minority liberal government held in place by the right winger from QLD. That will be too hard for them and the MRC will carry on all by themselves.
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3 hours ago, DeeZone said: I’m in total agreement with Tracc he leaves a huge hole in our midfield, we will have to work harder and smarter to try and offset that loss SONS. I would like to add that it was you and WJ that first alerted me to Harvey Langford in 2024, and I, like a lot of others was all over the draft hoping for Langford at Pick 6. I feel like we won the trifecta with Windsor, Langford and now Taylor along with Tholstrup, Lindsay and Latrelle Sumner-Pickett.😁👍
Not sure about Tholstrup, Does not appear to have a talent that hurts the opposition. He had an interrupted Preseason at the start of 2025. When he was injury free he was dropped straight back into the senior side. No warm up games at Casey. I struggled to see what valued he was in 2025. IMO it is 2026 or bust!
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On 28/01/2026 at 14:08, Sydee said: Feel sorry for him but I'm astonished he is still on our list
He had a three year contract for 2024 through 2026. I cannot see him playing this year and his contract will not be be renewed. A gamble that did not work out in spectacular fashion. He had injury problems at the Crows. IMO the worst recruiting decision of the Goodwin era.
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Penrite is a seriously good company that has competed with large international companies in the Auto lubrication field and won. A top company to have as a MFC sponsor.
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19 hours ago, Sideshow Bob said: 
welcome aboard penrite.
Does this mean caulfield was a rouse... were moving to sandown instead 😝
It might happen quicker.
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5 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said: As @Greg Schneider noted as a novice track watcher....nothing to see here!
Match Sims are not what we have come to expect or have seen in the past, they seem to be an exercise to work on a particular aspect of ball movement. Starting in the middle, there is a no contest between rucks and the ball just moves freely out. Maybe it is getting forwards to present, but there is no real tackling and because of the lack of numbers on the field you finish with really open forward lines, which would never happen in a real game.....make of it what you will.
But I suspect the main match sims are being conducted behind closed doors at Casey, given the short time to season opener and a new coach trying to implement changes.
I'll go out on a limb now....we will not see McAdam play a game this year. Barely, and I mean barely running, unable to extend one leg fully, and it is the end of January. Today looked even worse as he had a knee bandage on, then off and did the running with much less speed than even last week.
Sadly, we will also see little of Viney. @Demonland mentioned his training is limited to half a dozen bunny hops. No running, not even walking the boundary. When he is finally able to get some running in, with the lack of the ability to do it now for months, means he will take a long, long time to get to necessary fitness levels. The same will inevitably apply to Bowey.
The one thing noted by @thirty-one was correct.....at the end of the session, the players were gassed. All over the field they were on haunches sucking in the big ones. They are obviously being pushed harder than before. After two hours of "sims" and drills they finish with a series of 200m sprints. If it were me, the ambulance would be called.
Could they get both of us in George?
Training Ground?
in Melbourne Demons
It's firmly shut till a state government either approves or not
IMO it won't be any time before the next election in November.