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55 minutes ago, binman said:

I think you missed the gag HT (Bad Bunny was 6 in 2001).

I wish I could blame my meds, but I was this stupid long before they came along 🤣

7 hours ago, Demonstone said:

Bad Bunny has been around a lot longer than most people realise.

I first became aware of him way back in 2001 when he appeared in the movie 'Donnie Darko'.

Wow! That I did not know! I loved that movie…must drag out the disc and watch it again.

5 hours ago, Tarax Club said:

“Was uns nicht umbringt, macht uns starker.”

(That what does not kill us, makes us stronger).

I saw that and immediately thought of Get Smart.

6 hours ago, Roost it far said:

Like injuries at training so are the days of our lives.

Like mince meat through an hourglass, so are the hammies at Gosch’s Paddock.

8 hours ago, BDA said:

Fair comment

I note you reference to an older generation of musicians. They expressed their politics through their music. Which I’m fine with. And I get the sense they meant what they sang about. I don’t get that sense from modern musicians. I’ve picked on bono because he can’t walk past a microphone without pontificating, yet he has some very questionable tax structures in place.

i guess its the hypocrisy that gets on my nerves

Yeah, I know what you mean…there is a lot of grandstanding, which I’m not keen on, but really, I don’t mind the politicking of Springsteen, the Dropkick Murphys, early Midnight Oil, and a number of others as they have pretty much been political animals from the get go.

I think that current events around the world have ‘enticed’ politically minded musicians out of the shadows… to me that’s understandable, but I don’t expect others to agree with what I think.

1 minute ago, Oxdee said:

So 15% of your national audience understood what he was saying. Enough said

Well, in all fairness, I’d say that maybe less than 2% of those watching Kid Rock would have understood what he was saying.

A premiership player at the club he supported as a kid growing up…every kid’s dream! They can NEVER take that away from him.

28 minutes ago, Sydee said:

So you want the AFL half time entertainment performed in a foreign language?

I really couldn’t care less to be honest, although I’m not sure how you came to that conclusion. But while we’re going there, how did you feel about the Grand Old Flag being sung in the Woiwurrung language of the Wurundjeri people, at the 2019 AFL Indigenous Round?

1 hour ago, lorn said:

Really? I thought it was rubbish

I liked it, you didn’t…no big deal.

1 hour ago, layzie said:

Metallica! Santa Clara has missed a trick twice now..

I’m going to petition the AFL to get Ministry on board.

15 hours ago, Bang Bang Bang said:

But, today’s spectacle was an absolute snooze fest. Definitely wouldn’t have won many casual fans over. About as interesting as a 2 hour long Simon Goodwin press conference.

Yeah, it’s funny what rocks our boats….for me, I love hispanic/latino rhythms and that performance had it in spades…I’d never heard of Bad Bunny before until the orange teletubbie got triggered, and so it did peek my interest. I reckon he’s a lot better and more interesting than the bulk of artists of that ilk. And I have to say, he wins hands down when it comes to which I preferred between his and Mariah Carey’s effort at the Frozen Olympics.

But regardless of any of that, my post was more about what the AFL could do to improve the presentation. I couldn’t give a rat’s if it was overseas or local artists, although I would prefer the latter… just make it a better spectacle.

1 minute ago, sue said:

I expect I am in a minority of 1 (or maybe 2) but I don't see the point of these sort of 1/2 time shows. While some artists may have a big following, a lot of people attending an AFL GF might prefer other music (or even hate what the AFL has chosen).

But there is one thing people attending an AFL GF have in common (leaving aside some in the corporate boxes). Guess what that is. They like footy! How about 20 minutes of some footy related competitions beyond a sprint. Surely the geniuses at AFL HQ could think up some entertaining comps involving players, goalposts and a few footballs.

If it made the cost of admission cheaper, fine… but you could bet London to a brick that it wouldn’t… so I’m all for entertaining the masses before all of the footy starts. There are already plenty of footy related events going on in the general precinct, aren’t there?

53 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

it should be oztrayan only performers

we have incredible artists around this nation and instead we get foreign artists parachuted in to make their millions and prepare for their next antipodean tour

it's appalling, but expected

I’ve got no problem with that at all…in fact, I’d prefer that. Maybe I didn’t get my point across well enough, as I’m suggesting that it can be made more enjoyable for the viewing audience as well as those in attendance.

15 minutes ago, BDA said:

Never heard of bad bunny but I'm sure his political views are just as tedious as kid rocks.

Personally, i prefer my favoured artists to stay away from politics. I liked early U2 music, but jesus wept, Bono is such a dose i find it hard to separate him from the music.

I have no issue with politics in music as after all, that’s what music was in the days of the bards and traveling minstrels. Even in the 20th century, artists like Pete Seeger, Woody Guthrie, Leadbelly, Bob Dylan, Joan Baez and many more too numerous to count, were all political.

3 hours ago, bing181 said:

Seriously? From what I've seen it's running around 20:1 for. With good reason.

Mine was in favour of the performance, so I was just saying that a handful of posts isn’t really indicative of the general view.

16 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

You might be onto something here.

I believe he now wants to be known as Clark Kentfield and has been seen hanging around in the vicinity of phone booths. (Ask your grandparents, kids)

My interest in this subject is already waning.

15 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

I thought Kid Rock was just another name for Epstein Island.

And ‘rock candy’ is just another name for…?

16 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

No i wasn't. This has nothing to do with any previous AFL performance

And yes i am being serious. I could ask you the same question in how you came to conclusion that was actually a great half time performance.

It was horrid.

Looks like i wasn't the only one who thought so too.

I could find just as many posts supporting my view as well, but that would prove absolutely nothing… I guess it essentially just comes down to personal taste; although I probably wouldn’t have used the last pro TPUSA post as an example… the supposed christian right organised event featuring Kid Rock as their great headline act, the same Kid Rock that sings about lusting after underage girls and uses a lot of misogynistic commentary in his lyrics.

10 minutes ago, poita said:

I doubt that most of the NFL's traditional fanbase, ie those dedicated souls who sit in blizzard-like conditions in the middle of January to watch their team play, had any interest in Bad Bunny. But then again, most of them have zero chance of ever attending a Super Bowl. So, yes, the once a year types who have the money to splash $20K plus on a day out probably loved the event. And the NFL would have loved all the social media posts and clicks, most of which probably come from people who have never watched a game of (American) football in their life.

Sure the AFL could waste a fortune on a 15 minute half time event that will be targeted at people who will never watch a game of football and which will be immediately forgotten by most people unless it is horrifically bad. Or they could appeal to their supporter base by getting some of the greats of Australian live music to play for a fraction of the price, and spend the rest of the money propping up local and regional clubs so that the next generation of players has somewhere to play.

I understand what you’re saying, but I think it kind of misses the point I was making, which was that if they are going to have entertainment, then design it for the home viewing audience as well as those in attendance. I did say I liked the artists, yes, but I’m in no way suggesting that we need to have world famous overseas artists…in fact, I have suggested it before, and would still prefer it, if we did give the platform to Australian acts, and preferably not the predictable Farnsey and Barnsey or even Seymour acts.

The AFL has their entertainment before the game, so it is not in any way impacting the flow of the game, nor the audience in attendance, so from that angle it is completely different to the NFL.

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I hope the AFL were watching because it was genuinely one of the all time worse half time shows we have seen in a long time.

Shirley, you cannot be serious! I bet you were a fan of the Meatloaf and Angry Anderson GF performances 😉

11 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

It's not a realistic comparison as the budget for both is wildly different, and the local talent pool of artists and celebrities is wildly different, as well as the size of companies advertising during the show.

Superbowl half time budget is about $20 million USD... so roughly $30 million AUD here. That is purely for the show. The artists don't get paid and usually do it for cool factor, exposure, honour, or raise some form of awareness for a cause.

AFL grand final recently hit $5 million AU, and that's including the artist payment. Different worlds.

Fair points, but I’m sure we could still manage a scaled down version..my point was that they take into account the home audience as well as those at the game when putting the show together.

18 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

How were green day?

Didn’t see them on the coverage…just the three I mentioned.

It’s the fast food generation…we want everything yesterday!

9 minutes ago, Brownie said:

Would love to hear any recommendations of any other shows across the nation.

One absolute must go to show is the Japanese fella, DJ Krush, who is touring in March…I’ve seen him just once, but if I was fit enough to get out, I wouldn’t miss this for the world. Also from Japan are my friends Buddhadatta, who are touring Australia during February and March. A three piece who morph Buddhist chants with hard rock music…fantastic!

…because that exemplified precisely what a pregame/halftime show should be! They were able to present something that not only gave those present a fantastic experience, but that was also designed with the home viewing audience in mind. While the crowd got a well staged live show, for us at home It was like watching a crazy good music video clip.

I’d never heard of Bad Bunny until all of Trump’s ramblings, and people being all upset over the fact his performance would be in Spanish (he’s from Peurto Rico), but wow, if that was typical of what he does, those going to his shows during his tour here are in for a real treat; he was phenomenal!! As were Lady Gaga and Ricky Martin.