Little Goffy

Not sure which is most annoying... the Daicos worship, the cheering for Maynard, or the 'Mason Cox has done that well' every time the ball spins ineffectually off him.

Ah well, come on Hogan, kick seven and make 'em cry.

1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

The view’s great from our end!!!

 

😂

Good to see the old MCC stalwarts made it along, too.

13 hours ago, ignition. said:

What are your thoughts on Tyler Keitel for some added depth?

From the WAFL, 2023 leading goal kicker (57 goals from 18 games), age 27, 196 cm, 91 kg, ready to go. Averaged 3.2 goals/game, 5.1 marks, 13.9 disposals.

Has a booming kick on him, marks 55m out and slots them through. Looks like he can take a mark as well.

https://www.afl.com.au/video/911692/wafl-showreel-r3-tyler-keitel-highlights?videoId=911692&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1682230200001

My only concern is the 27 years of age, however, he appears far far more capable than Schache while Tom McDonald and Ben Brown will 31 years of age next year. Worth a look at, at least from a rookie stand point.

Can't see any harm in it. Leads hard and straight, kicks long, has shoulders.

Especially since we'll have some late picks we'll have to use after we see our late first round pick, two second round picks, and the returns for Grundy and Jordon all get squished together into one big points pie for the big trade play!

Keitel would be a great sidekick to Lukosius, giving us a multi-pronged long-kicking forward line capable of dragging defenders away from goal and opening up space for the smart medium and small types to run into.

Brown and McDonald were recruited/retained to give us mature talls in our forward line, which without doubt won us a premiership.

Similarly, they were held on to through 2022/23 because we needed mature talls up forward to provide steady targets and experience while our investment in tall kids through the draft took time to progress.

On both counts, it was the right decision to make.

Having both of them on the list ought to have provided us depth, but in the end they produced simultaneous terrible seasons for various reasons, and then of course every player sent into the cursed zone was also hit by the FUstick.

There's a case for paying them out into retirement, and there's also a reasonable case that if our list is turning over enough anyway then there's no point kicking them to the curb for the same eventual contract cost, just to gain pick 64 and 82 in a draft described as strong but not deep.

Currently already four senior list players on the way out (Dunstan, Hibberd, Grundy, Jordon) while Brown and McDonald are two more possible among multiple other veteran exits.

1 hour ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Your poor old uncle bitter is not feeling very chipper today. 
At the completion of yesterday’s long lunch. an old friend , and my good self, decided to pay a surprise visit to another old friend. 

Said old friend owns a reception centre which boasts a cellar containing 60’000 ( yes 60k ) bottles of wine. 
Great plan !!!!! FMD!!!!

And then you found out you were direct descendants of Lord Mountbatten and had inherited a series of Loire Valley Chateaux, which is awful because you just know how dusty those things get.

44 minutes ago, layzie said:

I'm giving Nudge a go on this one. 

If it comes off then we build him a church. 

Careful with the payout promises.

At this stage all Nudge has claimed is;

"A thing might happen"

Clearly took on the learnings from the punishment handed out for his previous seasons' more itemized speculations.

I think Caddy did his reputation a service in his interview on Gettable today.

https://www.afl.com.au/video/1036516/gettable-caddy-rises-dons-look-to-sign-star-blue-to-move-another-crow-to-go?videoId=1036516&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1695176147001

Started off a little nervous and fumbly (or maybe that was just the impression because I always run these things at 1.25 speed), but he settled in and gave the impression of being a humble and wise young man aware of what he needs to work on and keen to do so.

He might be too high for our current second pick, and too low for our current first pick. Of course, with the sheer volume of trade pick shenanigans coming up it would be no surprise if we finished with a selection around 7 or 8.

Unless we can get ourselves a crucial player type in the trade period, I suspect we will even put our 2024 first round pick on the table to get into this draft as much as possible.

If a review is a systematic evaluation of what is working and what is deficient, with input from all sources and 'ranks', then, yeah. Ideally that should be a near-continuous process but it is difficult to maintain under sustained operational pressure.

It is certainly something which should always be given a solid chunk of resources.

Consultation and continuous reform is something that has to be kept ahead of the need. If your efforts to invite and seek out opinions get too far behind the pace of people forming opinions, they're going to feel a need to start expressing them in less constructive ways.

On 9/16/2023 at 12:19 PM, Red and Bluebeard said:

So, nice weather we are having, isn't it?

You're not in Sydney, yeah?

Literally turn two behinds into two goals each game, and we've only lost two games in the whole of 2023.

Our problems are obvious and therefore targetable. We have players leaving who have moderate trade value but aren't established in our best 22, and retirements of similar type which enable significant list renewal.

We go into the draft with roughly one pick every 7 selections in the first two rounds.

I think with just a little bit of column A (the premiership-winning draft pick-ups of Selwood and Rioli at 7 and 14) and a little bit of column B (Richmond trading aggressively to fill their list holes in 2016, getting Caddy, Nankervis and Prestia) and a little from column C (meaningful assessment and reorganisation of the coaching panel) we would be going into 2024 on a huge boost.

I think we're more likely to have a rebound on the scale of Essendon 1999-into-2000 than any kind of flop.

Also noted Joel Smith's sincere concern for Weitering after the throat knock. Lingered with him, patiently helped him up. The body language was eloquent.

We're definitely the good guys. Will make climbing to being great again all the sweeter.

Let's be honest, Campbell Brown has skin in the game when it comes to insisting head injuries are no big deal.

Both on and off the field, if I recall correctly. With thanks to Reddit;

THE CAMPBELL BROWN RAP SHEET

Charges: 14
Guilty: 13
Matches suspended: 29
Fines: $6,400

Suspensions
One week for striking Brett Montgomery (Port), R3, 2004
Four weeks for striking Jason Winderlich (Ess), R11, 2004
Four weeks for striking Matthew Lloyd (Ess), R20, 2005
Two weeks for striking Lynden Dunn (Melb), NAB Cup 2007
Two weeks for charging Matthew Kreuzer (Carl), NAB Cup 2008
Two weeks for striking Nick Dal Santo (StK), R17, 2010
Two weeks for forceful front-on contact on Barry Hall (WB), R3, 2011
Two weeks for striking Callan Ward (WB), R3, 2011
Six weeks for forceful front-on contact on Aidan Riley (Adel), R23, 2012
Four weeks for unnecessary contact to the face of James Strauss (Melb), R20, 2013

Off-field issues
2005: Dropped for one week by Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson as punishment for breaking a convenience store window after Luke Hodge's 21st birthday party.
2007: Fined $15,000 for giving misleading evidence to the AFL Tribunal in a bid to help Chris Judd escape a misconduct charge.

2011: Stripped of leadership position at the Suns after being detained by police in Thailand following an altercation during an end-of-season trip. He was released without charge.
2013: Sacked after fracturing the jaw of teammate Steven May in an altercation in Los Angeles.

Oh, yes, here we go. Small world.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/58998/gold-coast-sacks-campbell-brown-after-assault-on-teammate-steven-may

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Probably takes the combined output of 50 journos to get an ounce of sense though...

Depends how carefully you crush them.

Oooh, a reduction sauce might work;

"Different components of the liquid will evaporate at slightly different temperatures, and the goal of reduction is to drive away those with lowest points of evaporation... simmering allows impurities to collect at the top and be skimmed off periodically..."

Could try a consomme but there aren't enough egg whites on this earth.

It's a tough game and Dunstan has not been lucky. Never once played an uninterrupted season.

Congratulations on 121 games, and all the best for the future.

Always liked him. He will play a lot more AFL level football and I wish him the best, up to the traditional limit!

I appreciate the courtesy of Twomey referring to him as Melbourne Premiership Player.

On 9/13/2023 at 6:48 PM, BW511 said:

Grundy suits the SCG and will make Sydney instantly better.

 

I bet Collingwood wishes they'd understood this in last year's preliminary final.

Oooooh, that felt gooooooooood.

There's another thread about Jack Riewoldt and Tom Hawkins up at the moment.

Coincidentally, both of them have been given more dodgy get-out-of-jail-free cards than Van Rooyen has had total incidents of any kind.

Meanwhile, Pickett's bump which slipped up and (rightly, yes) earned him a week suspension was on a guy who delivered a jumping face-high unnecessary and forceful elbow to the face of an unexpecting opponent, and then went on to be awarded the Brownlow medal.

Come to think of it... more than half of the last ten Brownlow medallists have specific records of throwing elbows in faces, among other things. Chicken wings and bowling-ball grips come to mind, too.

So, no, we aren't playing too rough. No.

I tried to take my own look at the publicly available efficiency and turnover stats. Very incomplete data particularly because 'disposal efficiency' counts the long bomb to a contest (I think anything over 40m?) as an effective disposal. That's why all of the lowest-rated players are forwards.

So, after acknowledging the great Oscar McInernery as Mr 50%, I turned over to turnovers.

Sure enough, there's Viney in 2nd, Oliver in 4th and Petracca at 15th. And Gulden in 3rd, and Taranto, Worpel, Rozee, Green, Serong, Parish, Acres, Bontempelli, Warner, Rich, Sheezel and Anderson.

Certain players have a job to do and their success is measured in the difference between 40% and 60%, not 60% to 80%.

That said... certain other players also have jobs to do and one of those is to make sure that Viney has better options than having to try to do too much with his limited kick.

I think this season Hunter and Langdon have both been 'AFL standard' but only to an adequate level, not the champion level that our style needs in order to get good clean movement in the counter-attacks we rely on. Far too often what should be a swift run and clear-eyed kick along the wing becomes a tussle close to the boundary.

It's the perfect recipe for a turnover;

Inside mid... runs a long way to reach a contest... gets the ball under pressure... disposes in a hurry... close to the boundary... with the opposition set up in place... and a shortage of key forwards...

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Yep, this one was touched and seemed clear enough on the second viewing.

But what fascinated me was the high resolution and high frames-per-second footage available in general play in the middle of the ground compared to the 1980s censorship blur that is available for goal-line decisions.

Every department at AFLHQ is amateurish except the marketing department which is obnoxious.

I like Tomlinson and am 100% convinced that both May and Lever do better when there's a third dedicated tall defender available.

Hibberd's retirement and Petty's apparent progress as a forward both suggest there will be more space available for a rugged defender.

10 1%ers, just one turnover, a solid contributor in the semi-final, and actually a remarkably consistent solid citizen when you consider how sporadic his inclusion has been.

Would be very happy to see him on the field for us in 2024 building some continuity and unity of mind with the defensive group, and see the results.

9 hours ago, adonski said:

Harrison Petty Coleman, put the house on it*

*gamble responsibly

*Chances are, you're about to lose.

I think a quiet conversation with Goodwin over a soothing cup of tea to just reflect on the way that as accumulating injuries and bad form wrecked our forward line he turned more and more to the emotionally comforting option rather than the ruthless call. He turned to his personally loved and trusted players and while it worked a treat with Melksham, once that option was cruelly taken away he never should have even looked in McDonald's direction.

It was decision-making under really terrible stress and very few could have done better. Just this season one champion coach 'retired' under stress and another took three months off due to basically a stress-related breakdown. It's easy to see how that can happen when our own coach has watched things get worse and worse on a near weekly basis.

So, I'd schedule a lot of calm reflection and care for Goodwin and coax a reset on the old mantra of controlling the things we can control.

I rarely get to go to games, being stuck up here in Sydney, and whenever I do, part of me imagines that the other Demons around are also somewhere on this site.

Sitting way up in the back for the game against Sydney a few weeks ago, my wife and I were set up behind a row of people who had a real atmosphere of sophisticated knowledge of the game combined with maximum commitment to being smart-[bleep]s. A real country football vibe that was so refreshing compared to having to listen to channel 7.

Also, seen that day; a HUGE DUDE who could probably crush a cat's skull with one hand - looked a bit like if Liev Schreiber got real and hardened up. But then, he was being a proper gentleman all game, and as the crowd was filing out my wife was getting into a full adorable asian-girl dance mode for the second (third?) playing of the club song and this giant dude just started joining as he went past.

I love my club, I love its community, and Demonland punches well above it's weight for building that community.

As I said, thanks to Demonland, even from a distance every Demon in the crowd feels like they might be in on the same jokes.

Toby Greene the player most likely to punch/kick/bite Maynard in the throat, so that's a good match-up for next week.

I could live with a Brisbane/GWS grand final.

Whatever is further from a Carlton/Collingwood match up. Jusy mopping up the media [censored] would cost the Victorian government more than the Commonwealth Games.

Edit: I'm surprised that was censored, but concede it was grotty. I leave it to everyone's imagination.

A long time ago and still relatively new to football, I attended a club function and got to shake hands and make a little small talk with Mr Barassi, who seemed like a man pre-set to be mildly amused by everything. It was only a week later when I told a Carlton-supporting friend and she absolutely lost her basket in shock that I quite grasped the significance of this pleasant granddad!

Ron Barassi is surely the ultimate example of the truly great not needing to tell anyone they are great. 

Always will be.