Adam The God

Let's just see shall we? Houston cooled because we refused to pay two first rounders.

I'd be staggered if we don't take our 2024 first rounder to the draft.

Just now, Roost it far said:

So he’s going to go off the rails, get injured and threaten to leave?

Not at the moment.

Had missed Hynes. Looks like a strong contested player in stoppage and in marking situations, good decision maker and will fill out into a tank.

Bit of Trac and Clarry about him. 

2 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

we're going to have pick 5-7 before nga and academy

i'm loathe to trade it

if we can split it into two and trade one first rounder for him, fine

i think our 2025 1st rounder is 100% on the table with tairon ah-mu and kalani white set to come in

The likely 2025 crop is also a tall one, so we can go all in on mids in 2024.

19 minutes ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

Of this list.

B Brown is known. I would also delist KFW, Hore, Hunter, Schache, Sestan, Smith. I suspect Tomlinson looks after itself via free agencyh. TMac deserves to go around again if he chooses as does Melksham with the loss of mature leadership we have lost with Gus and ANB. Verrall, AMW and Kynan have shown good development for age.  

So that'll be 10 list changes.

Not saying I disagree, but do we have enough picks to even cover 10 players?

That time in forward half last night is abhorrent. Just pathetic.

1 minute ago, ANG13 said:

I think there is the possibility McKay helps us win a premiership but only if the deal as you say has another first round pick. We then potentially have three maybe four picks inside thirty and load up on midfielders. Not going to help us win next year but I don’t think our list will challenge next year anyway. I think our list is better placed to challenge from 26 onwards and should look at what clubs will offer us for Tracc. 

You could well be right mate.

4 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

I've been calling for him in the midfield for eons, but we've had a look and he's not fit enough right now and he def gets a bit lost with the handover stuff.  I'm coming around to the idea he should be more a wanganeen milera role off high half back.  Either way, its ok we got to see it in an essentially dead rubber. 'learnings'

He massively rushes his disposals, and dump kicks, which are definitely an experience thing. So as you say, learnings, but I wouldn't be counting on him playing a big midfield role.

I like the high half back idea.

4 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

I think we can build around Disco and JVR, with Fritsch as a third tall. We would get more value from insert a player like Tom Papley, Bobby Hill or Charlie Cameron than Max King.

Matt Owies is a player we should look at. Sam Wicks is another.

If we keep Petracca and find some depth in the midfield, he can be used forward as well.

Murphy Reid and Cotton look like they could play a small forward role to me.

Agree in Owies and Wicks, and I wonder about Rachele.

6 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Might have been an idea to start Nib on Faicos and not Salem who is a distributor not a nullifier.

I don't.

Nibbler won't be playing with us next year, so we had an eye to educating McVee on Daicos, and I'm sure we hoped he'd be able to nullify him, but around stoppage Daicos is so difficult to play on. And then for whatever reason McVee didn't hand off to a player higher up the ground or didn't go with Daicos.

Daicos' movement was smart, his patterns are incredible, and it may have just been an inexperience thing on McVee and the rest of our team that Daicos and Collingwood exploited.

I actually don't think it was a coaching thing. Because when Nibbler went to him in the last, he still had 12 touches, the same as he had in the first quarter.

But IMO, it showed how very possible it is to heat Collingwood. If your tag works on Nick Daicos (and I know Josh got up there last night too), you.completely stifle their ball movement and their ability to score from defensive 50 and stoppage, because he does it all.

30 minutes ago, BW511 said:

And in this hypothetical, we not only hand Carlton a flag, we drastically improve our chances of winning one too.

 

I disagree actually.

I don't think McKay helps us win a flag if we can't win contest and get the bloody ball in there.

Late in the first quarter last night we had 12% time in forward half. It must have been some record. Was it @WheeloRatings?

We need to fix our midfield.

9 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

how we seem to have accepted that anb is leaving to go 'home' without the deal being done is absolutely infuriating 

he has requested a trade; it has not happened yet

he's got two years to go on a very healthy contract

is he going to retire if crom / pear can't satisfy us in a trade?

how we've handled his trade request has been acquiescent 

I wouldn't be sure that we haven't done a deal for ANB already...

3 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Would look good in a Dees guernsey

Everyone looks better in a Melbourne jumper.

If Trac gets to Carlton, we'd be handing them a flag IMO.

If I were Carlton, I'd be trading McKay to Melbourne for Trac, and possibly their first rounder.

We clearly wanted to give McVee some education tonight, so he played on Daicos, who pantsed him. Nibbler went to Daicos in the last quarter because we wanted to limit the damage. That didn't work as Daicos ran around got collected 12 in the last.

Gee, it was a bloody ordinary performance.

I know there was some experimentation, but I thought it in the Port game and I thought it all night, not sure Judd is a mid. Maybe he needs more exposure in there, so he doesn't rush his disposals, because I reckon 3 or 4 of his kicks resulted in turnover goals against. Some players (like Salem) are just better when the play is in front of them.

Maybe it's more about releasing McVee to play that Rivers 2023 role of pinging off half back and allowing AMW to play the deep 1v1 on the dangerous small?

Thought Kozzy was superb early, but as soon as he sort of got Moore, it was like it played on his mind, and he was never as electric as he was in the first half.

I hope Viney had a huge tag, because he was nowhere. 

Aside from that KB game last year where we had their measure, we've become their bunnies. And they are scum. Need to turn the tables on them next year.

Collingwood play with the arrogance that McRae has as a coach. Almost as if he has instructed them to toy with us. And we let them tonight. 

That forward half needs more x factor and I'm afraid to say it, but the Petty forward experiment, I think, should be put in the bin.

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

Public Service Announcement

Sydney has to be the worst minor premier in the history of the competition. Not only did they lose to the wooden spooner, they also had a 100+ point loss in there.

Just now, Katrina Dee Fan said:

You're welcome to enrol in my VCE Media class and learn how the media is regulated in Australia.  I'm doing this topic at the moment with my Year 12s.

Not very well. 😆

2 hours ago, Farmer said:

I urge you to read the judgment. Indeed I urge all of us to read it. It reveals a shameful history by the club admin.  It reveals that in order to meet the absolutely reasonable claims by Lawrence, the Board adopted not 1, not 2 , not 3, but 7 sets of amended rules. It has made massive changes to Rules which were outrageous and oppressive . Whilst Lawrence has certainly been seeking a spot on the Board the changes now made will go some way to enabling ANY MEMBER to put his or her name forward. The Board set up a committee OF BOARD MEMBERS to vet applications by candidates to run for election . They gave way on this, the vetting committee now has a majority of independent members.

the statement by Roffey suggests that the Club has an order for costs against Lawrence. It does not . There is NO ORDER FOR COSTS , the judge urging the parties to confer on this question. 
Again, just read the judgment , I suspect you will be shocked if you do .

So in other words, the board has done the classic 2024 PR move of let's say being deceitful to members vis a vis remuneration of costs and are simply hoping everyone forgets that they've wasted time and money fighting against better governance.

37 minutes ago, old55 said:

I've been posting here for a long time and people will have formed their views on the value of my content, but I think it's fair to say, as the artist formerly known as Pollyanna, I'm generally very supportive of the club.  But not in this instance.

I've come to know Peter Lawrence since he started to campaign for greater transparency and democracy in our board elections.  I've found him to be of high moral character, someone with broad ranging views that I admire.  He's intelligent, empathetic and generous.  His actions in this matter are all about making the Melbourne Football Club better and not at all about self-agrandisement.  He's paid a big cost reputationally and financially in his quest for a better club and he has directly sought to minimise the costs to MFC.

As @Dr Don Duffy said, the board "won" this action against Lawrence but only after they adopted 4 of the 5 changes he was promoting during the course of the court action.

It doesn't reflect well on this board that they couldn't find a way to accommodate a capable and passionate person like Peter Lawrence and ended up in court twice with outcomes almost totally in favour of his original positions.

My view and experience too, @old55.

2 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Seems like the first 100 have come up in no time.  Could potentially become another 300 game champion of the club.

Would really love to see him used in more attacking goal kicking roles rolling through from midfield and letting his raking left foot set sail for home from outside 50.  Is a perfect give to handball for players from a stationary position/fee kick/mark 55m out as well and would like to see him do more of that.

He's a right footer though.

9 hours ago, demosaw said:

If we each get an unwanted complain-a-gram in the post from Lawrence (he has all our membership details!) and he has put a return address on them then we should each tape it to a brick and return it to sender.

You want to put a brick through someone who wants to end poor governance and an elitest closed shop in your football club, because they send you an email?

Peter is a passionate Melbourne supporter that wanted better from Melbourne and that included greater checks and balances at board and governance level.

Meanwhile, Kate became a Melbourne supporter 10 something years ago.

I'm not sure people really understand what's going on here.

I don't think Rachele is as bad defensively as some are making out, but the forward pressure question is different depending on the game style being played.

With a forward half territory game, inside 50 tackles are essential.

But if we look to go a little quicker (think 2018 style corridor footy), hopefully we capitalise on inside 50s and convert them before the ball has a chance to ping out.

I find the idea of a medal strange when we already have the cup and the Norm Smith medal. Isn't the cup enough for the captain? They get to hold it up first with the coach. The most special moment every season.

23 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Thanks Peter

Thanks Kate.

2 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

I’m not Roffey’s biggest fan……..far from it (the fact we are no closer to finding a new home base is farcical, imo), however, I’m grateful she is not a noisy president that needs to give her 2c on all things football.

Actions speak louder than words, unfortunately for Roffey & the board, there seem to be no actions to speak of.

I agree, I prefer a quiet president that works quietly and fastidiously in the background, but as you say, it's very quiet in the background!