Adam The God

1 minute ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Gold Coast supporters on Bigfooty on the weekend:

“No chance we’re trading BH for Petracca. Melbourne can get stuffed”

Gold Coast supporters on Bigfooty today:

“Trade him to Melbourne. Collingwood and Hawthorn get stuffed”

Gold Coast supporters?

Dazzler will be most unhappy at the potential of Humphrey B Bear. Much more fun to laugh at the expense of Demonland posters melting. 😂

35 minutes ago, Demon Forever said:

Just my thoughts. If we bring in Bailey and Mihocek, are we a better team with those 2 inclusions whilst losing Petracca, Oliver and Judd?

Didnt mention Spargo as he hasnt really played a lot over the past 2 years.

Well, Rogers is a quicker Spargo. Creative by hand and foot, and elite on either side of his body. Makes sense.

Depends what we get back / how much they pay of Clarry's salary.

1 minute ago, Macca said:

Losing McVee creates a re-shuffle and Windsor was played at half back before sanity prevailed and he was moved to the wing/midfield

And if we assume that Oliver & Petracca find new clubs, how will we use Viney?

It only seems like yesterday that we were trying Jack in other roles (forward?) but we're probably going to need his experience and attack on the ball at the stoppages. Go again, Jack (given the circumstances)

As much as Oliver was an issue, he did accumulate 264 contested possessions & 121 clearances for the 2025 season

Langford, Lindsay, Windsor & Kolt* still need to be nurtured along as mids

Sparrow needs to double his output and step up to the plate

And Rivers could be asked to take on a Gus type role across the back of the midfield (needs to get more physical for that role though)

*Give Kolt midfield minutes to see if he can cut it

I'd be staggered if they played Rivers there.

Humphrey or no Humphrey, Rivers has to be in that midfield mix next year.

That said, he does offer great drove from half back and King wants to play a back half transition game...

I think Harry Oliver would suit that to a tee with his kicking.

1 hour ago, Macca said:

Hasn't Lindsay been earmarked to take on the HBF role? Salem?

And even though Rivers wins his fair share of midfield possessions, in my view, he's better suited off a HBF where he can use his dash & daring (and hit up targets?🤞)

But someone here (might have been DS) mentioned that some teams are going with 3 rebounders out of defence these days

So yeah, Harry Oliver, picked at #19 in last year's draft, might fit the bill, AF (plus pick 34, thank you)

I'd be going with 3, because you're also waxing between half back, wing and half forward.

Harry Oliver also allows you to release Rivers and/or Lindsay into the midfield rotation proper, with Salem back there.

I think Rivers' best position is half back too, but now we're definitely going to find out if he has mid potential.

14 minutes ago, Macca said:

GWS have picks 13, 34 & 36

Might we prise out pick 13? Of course that's his guernsey number as well

That's my tip but we'll have to pay a sizeable amount of his salary (?)

Reckon that's more than a fair trade considering it could cost the club $3.5Million

n.b. Pies first pick is #38 (no thanks)

Harry Oliver, please. One Oliver in, another out.

4 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

From a holistic stance he'll be ( most likely ) somewhat melancholy but he's resilient. I'm sure he's bitterly disappointed that the gang is breaking up but I have no doubt that probably very few people know Claz quite like he does. He went out of his way and took this wayward lad under his wing. Tbh I really couldn't give a flying duck about #5 or #13 now. Make your bed, lay in it.. Seems some are keen to 💩 in theirs before moving on.

Max is a thinker. He'll be processing in overdrive. But hes quite pragmatic and realistic about things. I genuinely believe hes looking forward to what a new-ish Melbourne might look like and play like.

And add to that he'll be a bit wizzed off too.

I feel for Max.

Definitely feel sorry for Max.

He's stuck his neck out there for Clarry for years and it's arguably all been for nought.

Just now, Oxdee said:

The guy was the best player Melbourne has seen in 60 years. Surely that gives him the credit to play his own way. His inability to change his style isn’t his fault and isn’t the clubs fault for moving him on.

His wry comment about the club is likely done out of disappointment and frustration that the club he loves no longer wants him.

No. You play the role the coach and club wants you to play.

He's a Melbourne immortal. He helped deliver our first flag in 57 years and won the BnF and AFLCA award in a premiership year. A freak footballer.

But if you can't show leadership at almost 30 and your toxicity overflows onto those around you, it's time to go, despite whatever you've achieved.

Just now, Demons11 said:

What a [censored]! Good riddance

I find it very disappointing. My favourite Demon. But he's now out of the favourite players list on Demonland, and I've had a year to prime myself for this. It's happening and we move on.

14 minutes ago, bing181 said:

ADHD in a nutshell.

Unfortunately.

Come on mate. I have ADHD. I'm not trouncing around like a nuffy. (Well, maybe Dazzle thinks I am)

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

I just showed this to wifey, a recent MFC convert for those following at home.

She said: "You little b astard. We're taking you off the fridge!"

8 minutes ago, Young Blood said:

I will be praying along with you re Humphrey!

But whats stopping GC with Humphrey from doing exactly what we're doing with Trac, regardless of whether he wants to move back to Victoria or not. He's a contracted player and his value is unfortunately far higher than Trac's at the moment.

Because they need to give something up for Trac.

We'd have preferred to keep Trac, but since he wanted to explore options we've gone for the guy we've loved since his draft year and tried to nab on draft night.

8 minutes ago, Young Blood said:

Yes GC would have made some sort of gaurentees that they felt they can provide the deal to get the trade done. But like I said that value would have been based off previous stars being traded for multiple first round picks.

The assurances would have been based off all the capital they have. Draft picks and players.

My feeling on the Suns is they don't want to be seen to be giving up potential superstars easily, so a game of posturing plays out before they ultimately accept Trac for Humphrey.

1 minute ago, Young Blood said:

GC wouldn't look horrible to market at all. Trac and/or his management has approached them saying he wants to go there. Doesn't sound like they were hunting him as such. They have a pretty elite midfield as is and tracking along nicely with a future Trac like game breaking player in Humphrey. Adding Trac to that mix would be a cherry on top and take them up a level of course. But it makes complete sense for them to hold firm and stick with what will likely be two first rounders and maybe one or two futures.

I don't understand this idea that we deserve more for our star than previous deals in the past for other stars in their prime without questions marks. Why is this any different? When was the last time a player of this calibre was involved in a trade where the club got a star or potential future star in return? Judd/Kennedy trade? Thats a genuine question I'd love someone with better memory to find some other recent examples.

Unfortunately, Trac has nominated GC and that means he is headed there and it would be extremely unlikely a deal doesn't get done. Because they pretty much always do and its so dumb how AFL trading works in that way.

You don't nominate a club unless that club has given you various assurances that a trade can and will be done.

Remember, we've been pretty clear all the way along here that if Trac wants to go, it's up to his management to find a deal that satisfies Melbourne.

That would be two pronged:

1) that whichever club Trac nominates will pick up his entire salary

and

2) that the club has something valuable it can give to satisfy Melbourne.

A handy small forward who's played 18 games in two years (Rogers) and wants to leave because he can't crack into their best 22 permanently and a first rounder is not going to do it.

And the Suns are unlikely to go into a huge points deficit to match bids on their academy players because they've traded picks 6 and 7 for Trac.

This leaves the Suns in a position where they hope to get a deal done for Trac with mere picks, but simply can't. We're not interested in this draft.

They need to come up with an appropriate trade.

That trade is Humphrey, a Victorian boy is who out the door in 3 years anyway, and already meeting with Victorian clubs.

We are the only Victorian club that has the capital to get the deal done, and with Trac (and likely Clarry going) we have ample salary cap to splash here.

I am increasingly confident that Humphrey will be a Melbourne player and have solace that Trac will be otherwise. Win, win.

Sitting back and hoping we don't land Humphrey so you can watch some fans on a forum melt is pretty funny.

1 hour ago, Young Blood said:

If GC can get Trac for two first rounders (the going rate) they do it. If not they simply say 'oh well, we'll keep our cap space, hold onto our high picks and you keep your unhappy star on huge $$$'.

Get ready for a bunch of draft picks both present and future folks!

And we say, back you come, Trac, and the Suns' look horrible to market.

King wants to coach Trac remember.

And the Suns need a marketable asset up there. Trac would be their first landing since Ablett. If they don't get the deal done, what's that say to the next opposition player they're courting in a trade? That player would have every right to ask, if I nominate you as my trade destination, will you actually get the deal done?

The league doesn't work in a vacuum and all these managers talk. The Suns would be a laughing stock.

Melbourne needs to hold their nerve and keep pushing Humphrey to request a trade.

Just now, Roost it far said:

They will be next year and the year after one would think.

But Suns don't get Trac.

16 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Taking your support out of the equation which club are you picking right now if indeed you want to break your contract, go through the media 💩storm and relocate?

It's about who can get the deal done.

Hawthorn aren't in the conversation.

Just now, PaulRB said:

I'd add to that, we can offer him quality midfield time that may be harder to get at GC.

If Humphrey was planning to return to Victoria/Melbourne in 2028 anyway, the question is "why not do it now, and build a legacy at a foundation club with a coach he knows?"...

For him its a "bird in the hand vs two in the bush" conundrum, now with MFC, or to a "better" club in three years. Assuming he can forecast who will be better in 3 years...

Yep, agreed, that's what I meant about being the main man in there

Sure, we're looking to offload two stars of the game (formerly super stars), but given the Suns' midfield and our emerging midfield, I think we'd be an enticing prospect to Humphrey.

Playing next to Kozzy, Langford, Lindsay, Windsor and Bowey, but being the main man in there is a pretty good sell I reckon.

We want to play fast, we want to be aggressive, we've still got the best ruckman in the league, along with some hardener premiership players in Viney, Salem, Langdon, Lever and Fritta.

We also play our home games at the MCG and have recently won a flag. I don't think the sell is as difficult as some make out.

And the biggest point is the $1.5-2mill pa he'll be unlikely to get anywhere else and certainly not at the Suns.

Jeepers, Hamill? 😬

I spent 5 minutes looking for that grimacing meme, but anyway, that's the thinking.

Was at St Kilda through ordinary times and was defensive coach at Carlton, a team who couldn't defend.

4 minutes ago, DemonWA said:

Some observations.

Tim's interview yesterday was quite telling imo. Seemed to speak about Oliver and Petracca in very different lights. My take was that unless we get a great deal for Trac he will be in our team next year. On the flipside I got the impression that there is less reluctance to move on clarry. All inference from my perspective but thats my take

My take too, but this would also be our goal. If they are to leave, it's not a firesale, we'll need to get something in return.

We [censored] up the messaging on Clarry by allowing that leak to beat our press release, but Lamb's press conference yesterday went some way to reframing the situation.

11 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

You when we signed Clarry

Also you “WHY DID WE SIGN HIM FOR 7 years”

You love to pretend like you know everything so let’s go with your version of events at whatever point in time it suits you

King of the flip flops. And Clarry was the best player in the competition at the time.

Why don't we rename this thread The Tim Lamb is s h i t thread for all the Eeyores?

11 hours ago, Trust The Process said:

The cynic in me just can't see him nominating us, if he even does wish to come back home. We'd be the club that makes the most sense with obviously to trade for him, but he still has to be convinced by us. He could potentially be giving up the chance for multiple flags in the short term if he did so.

Hawks are keen, but I hope there's enough noise from Merrett to deter him choosing them.

Afl have created a monster with GC.

You don't sound like you're trusting the process.

21 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Isn't the reason for the different language between Trac and Oliver obvious?

That is, the club is prepared to take Trac back, but we don't want Oliver back?

Lamb said today in his presser we'd take Clarry back if a deal isn’t worked through.