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54 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

But what happened in the weeks that followed...and why?

that Geelong win should have set up the season to actually achieve something...But no, it was back to  weekly floggings including a loss to the Essendrug 2nds after beating the Cats in their own Cat Box....

got ahead of themselves after cats game? developing team followed, thats why

I would expect red & blue strip, be gone with white. The club in their wisdom has produced a new red & blue logo... follow suit with the strip. 

On 12/11/2015 at 9:46 PM, Dr. Gonzo said:

There's nothing concrete other than we're after him along with several other clubs. We're in with a chance but that's it at this stage.

Just as I thought Doc.

21 minutes ago, stuie said:

About bloody time: Why did police take so long to launch Dustin Martin probe?at a disgrace."

That's disappointing. As Sly of the underworld says what a stuff up. 

i'd like to ask those in this thread who have all commented and relayed their complete confidence in getting Prestia to Melborne for 2017 - do you have something concrete? or are you just pinning your hopes on rumour and innuendo due to well known family connections or fluff pieces in the press with similar innuendo?

2 minutes ago, nutbean said:

Just as an aside - I went to the ACDC concert on Sunday ( ugh...meh..) and when Angus got hot and sweaty he actually looked identical to your picture. He hasn't aged well. (but he can play guitar)

So you're telling me he looks a lot like KB?

8 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

Sounds like the Forces of Dusty trying to mitigate the seriousness of events.

Where's a Jedi when you need one? 

Barbaric Sport filled with the underworld...

would not call it barbaric either..

13# Clayton Oliver (Another red-head replacing Jordie McKenzie....I hope they get Adem Yze or even Allen Jakovich to present his jumper to him?).

Yze for mine. What about no.26 for Sam? Luke Williams?

I expect that we will win between 8 to 12 wins, the reason we traded our first round pick next year to use it this year is to fast track the team, so when goodwill takes over the team will hit the ground running.

Love it!

We've had enough of badwill. It's been holding us back.

He came third in the relative vertical jump and fifth in the absolute standing vertical jump at the combine.

With the limited run up for rucking contests now those two tests are the ones that count. Also valuable traits for contested marking too.

Not too shabby at all. Good points.

For me, what stood out in his highlight package was the absence of defensive work. He looks like Jordie's Bizzarro World counterpart.

You clicked on the wrong link.

We may need a Ruck.

We won't know until next years draft, and see what becomes of the 1st rounder we gave up.

Oliver.

Premiership jigsaw is coming together

We have the jigsaw, although it needs to be put together.

I think Essendon will get great value from their two first picks and they're both pretty safe selections. We've been a tad more speculative

I think everyone will get value with their picks. Had we gone Parish with first pick the consensus may have been accusing Dees of playing at safe.

At the end of the day the Dees went best available in their mind, so did Dons. The safe and speculative innuendo is just that.

Hey D'Land. Parish or Weideman for club. Went Darcy Parish. I hope the Weed lasts to 7, otherwise , Francis looks a pretty good and versatile selection, reads the play well.

I agree with most of what you say mono, there are potential leaders in the group but they have achieved nothing in a football sense yet...so they don't have the runs on the board. Leadership is as much about the perceptions of those you lead as it is about having the quality. If you don't have credibility it makes leadership very difficult.

Leadership, midfield, experience, class and now a somewhat weakened backline. Seems not much has changed from the problems that existed back in 2011.

Understandably it takes time. Equally understandably frustrating.

Signed on for another year too. Love it when a kid shows some loyalty early

does anyone know the terms? other than the extra year..

the footage on the site each day is really good for suporters. seeing that live i thought neeld did well to not dwell on it and be straight and sincere.

i think the new mobile skin is fantastic. colours look good. well done demonland!

Gawn - Can the big fella break into the seniors and claim the No. 1 ruck role for good?

maybe a year early with the question. i just hope he can get a full quota of games in 2013 uninterrupted.

I'm on record of being in total support of just about all list management decisions this year and whilst I disagree with some I'm please that Neeld has made these decisions and is backing his judgement. It's something I think didn't happen enough under Bailey.

Next year will be fascinating because we will be able to judge Neeld's judgement as we will have so many of our past players playing for other clubs. To my knowledge the following are in action:

Morton WC

Bennell WC

Gysberts NM

Martin Bris

Moloney Bris

Petterd Rich

Rivers Geel

It must almost be a record for a club to have so many players playing at other clubs in the following year.

My only major regret in that lot is Gysberts and to a lesser degree Rivers, but I'm glad he has a chance to play meaningful footy after 6 years of crud.

correction on the title: So Many former Demons elsewhere

Morton - ask yourself, when was the last time he played a good game in the seniors. why was he predominantly at Casey? decision to cut him warranted; poor selection; plenty of development time.

Bennell - in and out like a revolving door for a number of years. what did he offer? how accountable was he? how much influence had he shown? decision warranted.

Gysberts - jury is out, but when you look at our midfield he couldn't get a look in. enter toumpas, viney, possibly taggert. his pace puts him further back in the pecking order. decision most likely warranted. could possibly be a bargain for the Roos long term, but short term unlikely.

Martin - with dawes in, clark available looks as though we have surplus with spencer, gawn and fitzpatrick up. A back up ruck sometimes fill in forward with not much presence. decision to trade warranted. although didn't get much in return - telling sign.

moloney - poor influence and poor year after an ok season winning the b&f no thanks to Jamar. lacks accountability defensively, is strong, but not a leaders backside. would have found it difficult to compete with viney and the like who need time in the middle. result traded - warranted.

petterd - i'll miss him a touch. but he just couldn't get on the park, too many interruptions and too many in front of him now to get a look in. I am pleased he has been picked up to be given a chance. warranted.

Rivers - Hoped he would have stuck around, but it was ultimately his decision. every rihgt to explore Free Agency options and has landed at a good club. hope he does well at geelong. irrelevant to this discussion because it wasn't Neeld's decision or judgement.

this threads focus on Neeld's judgement next year in relation to former players at other clubs won't matter much, because in the greater picture it's really either the individual players inability to conform or reach the standards necessary for a good period of time AND/OR poor recruiting well before Neeld's time that will ultimately be the focus.

the real focus or judgement will be on our new young and old recruits go and seeing how a Dawes and Clark forward combination work with a new look midfield.

Have a read of this. there's other threads on robbie. Just search Robbie Flower for titles only.

http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/386-how-good-was-robbie-flower/?hl=%22robbie+flower%22