MadAsHell

Hunt winning our best young player award tonight shows how ridiculous the award is. They should revamp it. All players under 21 with less then 10 games experience at the start of the year can remain eligable. Have 9 judges who take 1 game a week each and give votes similar to the brownlow of 3, 2, 1 for players who meet the criteria in that match. You can then maybe still have a weekly standout player who picks up a bonus vote for the final count that's announced each Tuesday similar to now. Just a thought anyway. Edit: Just realized this should probably be in the standard rising star thread.

Wishful thinking that there'll be an announcement tonight re: Hogan's contract?

KC, what's the rules as far as which Casey & Melbourne listed players can play in the D-League this weekend? For example can McInerney, Scott, Munro play D-League? Also Max King & Joel Smith seeing as they played in the D-League last week?

Some footage of him at Number 5 in the first video & 3 in the second. Looks to have a nice burst of pace and is dangerous around goals. I look forward to watching him learn some tricks off Jeffy & hopefully doing some damage for the Scorps next year with a view to pushing for senior selection. I hope we take him whether it be in the National Draft, Rookie Draft or as a Category B Rookie.

According to Freo supporters, likely to be delisted.

I think with Clarke, the way I view is, is he the answer? No But does he help us structurally? Yes Other then Collingwood in 2010, i can't really think of a team that's won a premiership with only one genuine ruck and one part timer. They may have one who plays more in the ruck then the other, but generally the top sides play two genuine ruckman who are also forward options. I don't see Spencer as a forward option, but i figure Clarke could at least be servicable for a couple of years until we develop someone else. Whether it's Mitch King or if we draft someone like Darcy Cameron who i'm a wrap for. The viable alternatives out there to Zac Clarke leave me underwhelmed. Nathan Vardy's an option but injury prone, Majak Daw lacks the footy smarts and i think would cost a bit in a trade. While Ty Vickery is about as useful in the ruck as Chris Dawes. Shaun McKernan could be a cheap option if delisted by a 2nd club. I just figure as a free agent and only cost being cap space, Zac Clarke is probably as good a short term fix as we have.

He had us all pulling our hair out in the first term with his 0.2 and one out on the full. Should have been 3.0, but aside from that he was very good.

I would have thought that at 38 years of age and playing a different code, he'd be more on North Melbourne's radar then ours??? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Allsopp#Personal_life

Would he walk into their 22 though? Kelly, Whitfield, Scully, Coniglio. Plenty of outside mids.

Numbers don't tell everything. White peeled off his man to effect several marking contests. Was very good.

Happy with this. Although must say i'm more keen on Kirby who Richmond have nominated.

I agree we should get another small forward. If it's a choice between Green & picking an unknown kid in the rookie draft, i'll take the rookie draft.

Cheers mate. Although the above link is for when he signed at the end of 2015. And agree, he is only temporary. That's why I reckon no more then a 2 year offer. Draft Darcy Cameron out of the WAFL and hopefully he can take his place by the end of 2018.

Shaun McKernan worth a look? Goes at about 2 goals a game at VFL level. http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/112847/Shaun-MCKERNAN

I was thinking 2017 1st Round Pick to GWS for Pick 15 & Hoskin-Elliott. (If GWS think we'll stagnate for example, they'd see this as giving us Pick 15 & WHE for Pick 8). Pick 15 for Harlett. And possibly throw in Nibbler as steak knives if required. Personally I think Harlett is worth around the 8 - 15 pick range. This would see us effectively trade our 2017 1st Round Pick & Neal-Bullen for Harlett & Hoskin-Elliott. Outside run issue solved! And lets not forget the addition of Melksham & Hibberd.

With all the talk about our need for a 2nd ruck who can play forward, I know his name's been mentioned, but surprised there's been no thread started. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-30/dockers-ruckman-zac-clarke-weighing-up-a-fresh-start http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/player-profile/zachary-clarke Free agent, and will be exploring his options. At 203cm, 96 kg, 101 games under his belt and turning 27 at the start of next season he fits the bill. He's reasonably mobile for a big man also. I agree that only 46 goals in 101 games isn't brilliant, but the change of scenery could certainly help. Even if he only kicks 1 a game, he should help our structure and could play more as a decoy forward for the likes of Hogan, Garlett & Watts. Would allow Gawn to spend a bit more time forward also. Given the only cost would be salary cap space, I reckon a slightly generous 2 year deal to get him to the club should get it done. Then after 2 years you can actually pay him what he's properly worth. Hopefully by then Mitch King has developed a bit more and if we draft one of or both of Dacry Cameron & Oscar McInerney who may be ready for serious game time. Clarke may not even be required by then anyway and I certainly prefer him to Vickery! Thoughts?

I'm hoping Maibaum (Eastern Rangers) may slip to the rookie draft come draft time. Very tidy defender and with one of Dunn/Garland likely to be traded out with the other coming towards the end, it will be good to get some depth back there.

If we were to trade spencil then i'd be for picking up Zac Clarke as a free agent and using our two live national draft picks to select Darcy Cameron from Claremont and Oscar McInerney from Casey. Both early 20's showing plenty in the state leagues with big upside.

Don't write off Williamstown. They're not in great form at the moment, but they were very good when they beat Casey earlier in the season.

Was in the link on post 2. Was amended by the author after i started the thread, so something changed. Most likely his info was wrong i guess.

Yep, has certainly been changed. Nothing to see here i guess.

Apologize if there is already a thread for this, but couldn't see it. Anyone else notice the article on the AFL website stating despite him being contract, Freo and trying to lure Jake the snake? Given he's contracted and our lack of ruck depth i can't see it happening, but if the offer were to good to refuse i guess we'd have to consider it. Article is big men set for big moves. Sorry i couldn't get a link working.

I apologize for not posting till now, but busy evening after the game. An odd game. Casey seemed to have the majority of the play in the first 1/4, yet were very wateful going forward with their slow ball movement and Footscray seemed to be able to bring their superior speed to the fore on the counter attack to have an early lead. Casey made an effort to move the ball quicker in the 2nd term and that resulted in greater scoring opportunities that they were able to take advantage of. The dogs though to their credit were able to keep Casey in check and still score on the counter and stay within 8 points at the half. At that stage it felt as though it would be a tight contest for the duration. Third term saw Casey's midfield really assert their dominance and control the play in their forward half. The weed gave us a glimpse of the future with some strong marking and conversion and open up a 5 goal 3/4 time lead. Final term was looking tight over the first 7 minutes. After Oliver was cleaned up at the first center contest, the Dogs did all the early attacking and got to within 22 points. And after earlier in the season Casey gave up a 5 goal 3/4 time lead against the Dogs, I was feeling a little nervous. However Oliver came back on and Casey kicked the next 8 goals of the game to do it in a canter and book a prelim finals birth against one of Williamstown, Port Melbourne or Sandringham (watch out Myke Cook!). Here's how I saw the Melbourne listed players. Jack Trengove: So, so game. Was solid without dominating. Did his work in close and what he did, he did well. Didn't notice any bad mistakes. Was clean with ball in hand. Clayton Oliver: I thought he was very good. We all know his hands are great, and he seems to kick it a bit more at VFL level which is good. I just loved his aggression at the contest and man. Lynden Dunn: Slow start, but i thought Dunny was one of the main catalysts for Casey taking control of the game in the 2nd term. Took countless intercept marks and directed traffic in defence. It was Dunny who started cutting off a lot of the Dogs forward entries in the 2nd quarter and was able to allow us to mount repeat entries ourselves. It hasn't been a great year for Dunn, but with the way he played today he'll give himself every opportunity to win his spot in the 22 back next year. Ben Newton: Seemed to play off half back which was a different role for him. Played it well and did a few nice things. Colin Garland: Thought he really struggled early. One stage in the 2nd term i thought he pulled out of a marking contest against Minson, however that could have been my depth perseption. To be fair though, he really lifted in the 2nd half to provide some run & rebound. Viv Michie: I thought he was our best. Won plenty of ball on the inside & the outside. He used the ball well and hit the score board which is something only 12 months ago he rarely did. I don't expect Michie to be on our list next year, but will be shocked if someone else doesn't pick him up. Sam Weideman: His third term put a smile to my face. Took some really strong marks and kicked some telling goals to put us clear of the opposition. He flew for his marks all day and gets his hands to a lot of contests. He still needs to work on his tank and build some strength. But gee that 3rd term was the best of Sammy Weideman. Liam Hulett: Quiet game, but again he worked and competed hard at the contest. Kicked 2 final term goals for effort. Alex Neal-Bullen: He had a mare of a first 1/4, turning it ovet and fumbling it repeatedly. I assume that was just finals nerves and pressure. From the 2nd term onwards it was the Nibbler we normally see at this level. Tough around the contest, running to the right places and being smart around goal kicking 2. Was good to see him come back. Jack Grimes: After Michie, i thought Grimey was our best. Was strong in the air and provided plenty of run as well as winning plenty of inside ball. A game for his potential suitors today. Jake Spencer: Battled hard in the ruck against Minson. I'd of said broke even from a ruck perspective, but he didn't have much of an impact around the ground. Ben Kennedy: I thought in the first quarter when we were struggling Kennedy was probably our best. Was the main one in our midfield trying to get some run and quick ball movement going. Had less of an impact after quarter time, but as the team lifted, he wasn't required to. Mitchell White: For those calling for White to be delisted, today was a good match to watch. His ball use was very good and his ability to peel off his man to affect a contest (Alex Rance style) was fantastic. I think he's earnt a 3rd year on the rookie list, but we'll wait and see. Matt Jones: Ran hard all day and was our most consistent player at breaking the lines & gaining meters. Burned about 3 team mates late in the game when he had a long range shot for goal that thankfully went through. But when your 10 goals up you can probably afford to do that. Dean Terlich: In the first half was our most dangerous forward. Was so wasteful though kicking 2.3 and one out of bounds on the full. He's certainly re-invented himself as a forward. But end of the day, i don't think it will change anything. NOT SIGHTED Christian Salem: I heard reports he injured himself at training during the week. Hopefully he returns for the prelim as his disposal could be the difference between a premiership and heartbreak. Joel Smith: I never saw him. D-League? Max King: I know he was D-League. Really happy with the win on a few fronts. Obviously the week off for the players and the belief it gives them. But also allows the Melbourne players to enjoy their B&F on Tuesday night without backing up that weekend. They're certainly a real shot to go all the way, and after all the recent finals failures over the years since the alignment. It's good to see the club finally taking it seriously.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-02/tigers-to-trade-former-no6-pick-reece-conca Conca up for trade. Personally I'd rather stab myself in the eye with a spoon! What would other people rather then Conca?

They'd need to give something else up. Harlett is not worth Pick 6, he's worth a mid to late 1st Rounder. That's why I said if we were to trade our 2017 1st Round Pick for a 2016 Pick it would need to be for a 1st Rounder plus something else. For example our 2017 1st Round Pick goes to GWS for Pick 17 (they currently have from Geelong) & Hoskin-Elliott. We then trade 17 & Nibbler to Port for Harlett.