RalphiusMaximus

On 11/17/2019 at 1:16 PM, Whispering_Jack said:

Going by the way the AFL sold the news of its draft concessions to the public (GCS taking two best mates from Victoria to limit the go home factor) I think it would be highly unlikely that the Suns would depart from the script of selecting Rowell and Anderson with 1/2.

But how great would it be if they did?

That's quite a six pack Petracca is wearing. Looks to have dropped some weight.

12 hours ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Might be a silly question, but seeing as Goschs is a public park, what's stopping him from going for a run there accidentally at the same time as our training sessions?

Insurance for one.  He won't be covered by the AFL's health and indemnity insurance until he's officially allowed to train in December.  That means any injury he sustains if he tries to train with the club prior to that is on Medicare.  I don't doubt that the club has already discussed his fitness program with him for the interim, but he can't do any official work with us until he's on the books. 

7 hours ago, Salems Lot said:

But....but...how can he possibly be the club saviour if he does not play for 12 months...???

He's not the messiah...

6 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

Surely it’s based on data averages, not aggregate.

Not sure why Kemp gets so much love. Good size, but I think a few too many have been sucked in by the Dangerfield comparisons. He’s not the first utility to come along at 192cm.

I don't think Dangerfield is a good comparison. He doesn't have the explosive movement that is Dangerfield's biggest weapon. He does have a lot of power though, and knows how to use his size and strength to break through tacklers. He is also a good mark and kick and executes under pressure. I see a lot of upside there.

21 hours ago, leehow said:

Does it really matter? Lewis Jetta would be close to the best kick in the AFL and he does it.

 

Doesn't  Lewis still hold the record for the most consecutive points kicked?

25 minutes ago, Blistering said:

It was mentioned earlier in the week that James Jordon had built up considerably over the off season. Here’s a photo from yesterday’s training. He looks like he has a bit of a way to go still.

Would any of our track watchers like to give us a comparison of the development of these three young blokes drafted 12 months ago:

• Tom Sparrow (2 games, injured for parts of the season) 

• James Jordon (0 games, would have been close to senior selection at times)

• Aaron Nietschke (0 games, ACL early and out all year)

I would imagine that Sparrow is the most advanced. What are their prospects for selection in 2020?

 

The kids legs look muscular. 

I really hope we're not thinking of taking a first round pick for next year. That draft is shot.

This list is for the lead-up to the drafts.  All of these guys are looking to get a shot in the draft.  Bennell is going through a different process.  Hopefully Murray will as well. 

12 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Was referring to the ND rather than PSD

In that case, pretty sure he will be.

14 hours ago, Mach5 said:

 

Is there anything wrong with a sociopath or psychopath on the playing list? If they play their role on & off.

You’d be trying to identify those who crumble or throw their toys out of the cot at the minutiae.

They would probably be pretty harmful off field.  Prone to playing idiotic power games and manipulating people for personal gain. 

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

Ben Sokol looks good. But will he be there at our 3rd pick?

Second pick, and hopefully.  He looks a quality player. 

I'd also be quite happy if we took a punt at Liam McBean who for some reason hasn't been mentioned in the article.  He's 25, over 2m tall and a better set shot than anyone on our list.  Plays FF and can pinch hit in the ruck.  He'd fit very nicely int our side. 

McBean!  A ready-made forward who can pinch in the ruck as needed.  He can hold down the spot until Bradke gets his game together. 

On 11/7/2019 at 10:14 AM, FarNorthernD said:

Still reckon the kid was ripped off. I know nothing about the Sam but I’m guessing he wasn’t trying to gain an advantage. Only difference between him and a multitude of other AFL players is the timing. 
Fair to say I won’t be holding his 18 month ban against him

The kid from Casey who got done for importing a protein supplement on the advice of a club doctor and NEVER ACTUALLY TOOK ANY was ripped off.  Murray did something idiotic. 

On 11/8/2019 at 1:08 PM, JTR said:

Have we cooled on Murray or just taking our time?

The first DFA window closes on Monday and I'm getting a bit impatient waiting for something to happen.

They were supposed to be having a chat with him this week.  I'm thinking it's most likely that they will ask him to join training in December along with Bennell and look at a rookie spot.  Can we take two players as supplementary rookies in March? 

8 hours ago, Bay Riffin said:

interesting if the AFL don't see that as draft tampering. within the rules but not at all what the draft is about. 

They will take the same approach as when Sydney offered an absurd contract for Franklin.  The contract will stay on the books even if the player is gone.  Franklin is taking up salary cap and a list spot until he's 37 if I recall. 

2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Speaking of intent:

Gawn, the best player at the club and easily in the best 18 players in the league by a country mile makes it to day one of training for the juniors,  2 weeks before he’s required.

Meanwhile we have others talented players on paper  (one who had a pathetic end to the season) that could be stars, are still on holidays overseas. 

Was it the 2018 B&F where he talked about making the decision to do every possible thing to be a better footballer? 

I think rehab is a bit of a misnomer.  It's not necessarily the players who are recovering or rehabbing.  It's the players on modified programs that prevent them from taking part in the main drills.  There are any number of reasons for that sort of thing. 

24 minutes ago, roy11 said:

Sorry if it's been mentioned in here but how much of a salary do you think he'd be commanding all things considered. 

It would have to be on the lower end given his indiscretions. 

3 hours ago, Engorged Onion said:

Yes,, but what about the r'ship in particular b/w Bennell and Martin? Are they best mates?. KK and MAY were there also. Does Martin not have any other mates in the game?

No idea.  As far as I know  it's  all speculation.

2 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SOMEONE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY MARTIN IS IMPORTANT AND WHY IS IT THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BENNELL, MARTIN IS HIS SIAMESE TWIN AND CANNOT BE SEPARATED?

Bennell and Martin played together at the Suns. There is a school of thought that if they were friends up there it may encourage Martin to come to Melbourne as well.

Happy with this development.

On 11/1/2019 at 11:06 PM, Darkhorse72 said:

Is the AFL stupid!!  (Rhetorical question)

They have scheduled the Women to play 1.10pm in Perth In Freo and the men starting at 3.20pm (Misread and saw the AEST time) at Optus.

So I can't take my daughter to see the women's team play and see the Men's game. WTF . Are they trying to split our huge support based in WA!  My daughter love's footy and the Dee's and know has to choose which one to see live.

Maybe they though them playing the same day was good, but either push back the men's game to a cooler time or make the girls earlier, or play them on the Saturday instead.

Dare I suggest writing in to the AFL and pointing this out to them?  It's probably early enough for them to make a minor change.  They could even make the AFLW game a curtain-raiser at Optus. 

This fixture is a shocker.  SO  many media "analysts" are saying it's a good draw because we play side who were weak this year twice.  So what?  They start out by exhausting our side with a trip to Perth to play in the hottest part of the day, then a six day break and back to play the runner's up from last season meaning we are pretty well guaranteed to start off 0-2 and bottom of the ladder.  The majority of our home games are against interstate sides meaning our crowds will be small and revenue low.  This is compounded by putting us in the Sunday afternoon slot more than any other team.  They will then use our low crowd numbers to justify not giving us any decent slots the year after as well.  It's possible that we'll recover from the first two rounds and do ok on the ladder, but we'll be relying on two matches to make up the financial loss we take on the rest and break even for the year. 

4 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

so to clarify... he goes into a draft and states his salary and length of term?

What and when is the draft and what pick do we hold?

Does this preclude us from taking Murray and Martin?

Why didn't we trade pick 125 or similar for Murray?

Nope. 

Right now he is a Delisted Free Agent.  This means that during the FA signing period he can sign with any club at any agreed contract. 

If he chooses to train with multiple clubs during the lead-up to the draft, he will then lose his FA status and have to go into the PSD and see if anyone picks him, that is where he would nominate pay and contract length. . 

If he waits until after the draft and trains with one club, that club is able to take him as a supplemental rookie before the season begins in March. 

He has already decided against that PSD route. 

Melbourne has offered to have him train with them from December onwards.  This would allow him to play in our pre-season games and we could then take him as a rookie in the same way we took Lackhart this year. 

It doesn't look like anyone is willing to pony up an upfront contract to grab him as a Free Agent without seeing if he can train first. 

1 hour ago, Watts the matter said:

Are there? I have only read about Sydney and Geelong. Who are the other teams?

I can't find the article I read.  It was only a few hours ago.  Annoying. 

On 10/26/2019 at 9:22 PM, Red and Blue realist said:

So you want us to give him a 2 year contract even though there's a good chance of him never playing a game? He's one of the best talents of the last 10 years but has played 2 ordinary games in the last 4 years, and had major injury issues. Why would anyone offer him even a 1 year contract let alone a 2 with incentives

We need to offer something to get the guy to the club.  If Geelong are offering one year, we offer two.  If they are offering two, we offer two + one with a trigger.  There are at least four clubs looking at him and we're probably the least successful of the lot.  We're not going to get him for a one year deal. 

Beyond that simple fact, one spot on our list simply isn't that big a deal.  We just re-signed both Wagners, Dunkley, Baker, Chandler and Lockhart.  Is Bennell a worse option to have on our list that any of them?  I readily admit that he's a risk and might never even play a senior game for us, but he's certainly not any weaker than the fringe players we have already given contracts to.