beelzebub

3 hours ago, Redleg said:

I can see some reasons why you would consider giving Jobe his Brownlow back and having 3 winners, as you wouldn’t strip the other two winners of their Brownlow now.

Jobe is not the sort of person I believe, to knowingly take prohibited performance enhancing drugs. There is also no evidence he did.

Clearly the players believed what they took was legal and approved by the club and Doctor.

There were no positive drug test results and that is the usual basis for proving an offence. No players were ever caught in possession of illegal performance enhancing substances.

There is no proof therefore that Jobes performance may have been improved illegally.

The club on the other hand was disgraceful in its treatment of its players.

Seriously  ?? Wtf...

Played like a defence attorney..

Funny WADA saw it a whole different way.

Yeah...nahhhh..   

2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

the club have the addresses of all club members

it would be interesting seeing a geographical  heat map of this data

i wonder if the club already has

Not sure they could organise the proverbial  p***  up Daisy  let alone clever stuff.  They still struggle with inner sanctum games it seems.

Caulfield should have been signed and sealed by now imho if it were happening.

Another committee getting sfa done.

14 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Ooooohhhhh   gooooodyyy...  he can kick !!!   Handy.. We'll see.  

11 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I believe that's wrong.

Contracts are not guarantees of list spots, they are guarantees of payment.

We could delist both but would have to pay them out.

Correct

56 minutes ago, Macca said:

The coach is doing alright.  He can't kick the goals himself

Our way of playing (brand) is based on defence and contested ball.  Often not pretty but I'll take our team and the way we play over anthing we witnessed from '07 to '15.  Ugly and we lost a lot

'65 to '86 wasn't all that flash either, IRW

Cant kickem

...might organise the front game a tad better.

His approach is flawed. He found his moment in the sun.... the sun has moved on...  us....not so much.

Much work to be done.

Oh... good luck Bun...thanks for visiting.  Cheers.

It no longer matters.

Lots that might..

But....

We all know little is as it seems.

An EGO driven industy.....meh

On 9/29/2023 at 9:32 AM, dpositive said:

Good point. If you look at the FB development proposals, access will be improved to accommodate the new population. It is near the existing west gate freeway. But appreciate its all very much speculative and would need to be emphasised in any proposal for an entertainment/sports complex

FB will improve.. but most an improvement only relevant to those living there.  If you look at some of the relatively nearby higher density developments in PM..and if you've ever had to access that area...it's  rubbish  Congested.. narrower streets etc. Any new developments will NOT be car friendly ( as that is THE way now .

I can see a theoretical attraction...but it wouldn't pan out. Those lovely Architectural Presentations are no more than Cartoons really..  utopian pipedreams as opposed dreary reality.

As its pretty safe to assume hardly an Melbourne player does , or would be living there then somewhere more accessible and attractive  might better serve.

It's an irrelevance where any supporters live.  It is about what( and where ) best serves the MFC.

I could see FB sorta flourishing for its new population.  It will suit some. Not anyone who appreciates a modicum of space though.

Might be a while too. 

17 minutes ago, Dee-monic said:

I may be in the minority here but I think Sydney outmanoeuvred us in the Grundy deal. I expect he will show us next season that he is still an elite ruckman worth far more than they gave in return.

 

The only people who out manoeuvred us were .....ourselves  😉

All our own doing and ineptness.  

15 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Collingwood managed without a ruckman for around six weeks. They won 5 IIRC

Rucks can be covered

It's not winning the tap...it's winning the clearance..   can we as a club please get around this concept....

16 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

No it's not...or arguably yes...it's a deal so it get done like any other deal according to values/currency/argy bargy..   But is this THAT complicated....NO....  Doing up shoes laces for Purple...is complicated

23 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Sydney needs grundy more than Adams

Exactly...Grundy is all but a necessity....Adams a nicety.

If they could take only one, and I'm not for an instant sugesting they'll only get one, but if they had to choose it would be Grundy every day of the week.

On 10/8/2023 at 12:58 PM, Jontee said:

Sunny boys - used to do similar  though I remember the printing on the seam used to be slightly different.

One thing is the same; been thrown out by the shop keeper when they worked out what we were doing.

Well done..lol..  yeah.   The 'cue' wasnt that obvious...unless you knew what to look for....and when you did it was easy peasy.

Someone mentioned using deposits off the coke bottles....yeah...whole other story there lol...  Looking back I was quite the ratbag delinquent. 

16 hours ago, Macca said:

You want to give $700k per annum to a player who has clearly checked out? 

There's also a chance that we may need the salary space if we trade a player in

WE aren't paying 700k..   that's the point here. What he's getting and what we pay are two very different things.

What does Sydney really need MORE ..an Adams...or a RUCK..   not just a ruck...but a capable one.

I'd play hardball with this bunch. Never done us a favour unlike some other clubs.

Why aid the enemy...[censored] them !!!

Edit..

WE need to get suitable value to suit US ...not facilitate blody Sydney and Collingwood  ffs

5 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Agree. It’s just a bluff. Grundy will get to Sydney. It’s just at what number and how much of his contract is paid by Pies, Dees and Swans. AFL Sudoku at work.  
Grundys recruitment and departure after one year will be remembered as one of the biggest “head scratcher” trade deals done by the Dees. 

The Dees will pay nothing of Grundy's salary going forward....thats all down to Collingwood and his new club.

MFC just playing for a better pick.thsn Sydney's opening gambit... that part is just part of the trade week game.

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

If we're trying to make hail marys like this it says we don't have any other key forward targets this year.

Also, ironically it would suggest hail marys are still to be our forward "craft".

Let's hope not ...

The journey continues Harmesy. Good luck for the future.

No one will ever take away your Premiership and we will always be thankful for your pivotal part in it.

Always a demon. Go well .

4 hours ago, Redleg said:

Sorry it was the Sennitts' Comet. It was a chocolate and mint combo, delicious.

Youve really got no clue eh red....lol

Lets get back to basics...   cobblers... 

10 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

He is a very very nice guy off the field. So is his wife Emma. 
I honestly think if he doesn’t come to terms with Geelong he will retire. 

Couldn't give a rats.. not looking for a friend 😉

Why is that even a footy consideration ....

As previous... hope he enjoys mowing....or local theatre perhaps... he has a penchant for acting !!!

Wouldn't want Hawkins in a pink fit......

Let him retire to mowing his lawn with the John Deere...

6 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Bubs where were you during my entire childhood.

I reckon i might have scored two or three grrr.

I woulda had the normal returns on "frees"  had it not been for the inside info. A word from my Dad..don't get greedy... so you'd just churn one glug or razz or sunnyboy .. then move on...  twas easy peasy when you knew how.  Unfortunately  no secret deal on choo choo bars or redskins lol

48 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

It’s an easy concept @beelzebub.
 

Go onto an opposition player. Stay close, block him, stop his running ability and running patterns, be physical, stop him from getting the ball. If he gets the ball, nullify his possession output by putting pressure on. Create turnovers. 
 

When we have the ball. Provide an option, make him accountable, make sure your possessions hurt and turn his focus from attack to make him accountable. Putting him off his game. 
 

A Nagger…. Harmes was good at it many times. 
 

Capiche 🤔🤔🤔?? 😜🤪😂

You consider i don't understand the role of a tagger ?  Curious 

Or you think i don't understand patterns?  Your prerogative.... i guess.

I "pondered" because i get Harmesy is multifaceted...capable of roles. Also Goody doesn't like tie down roles.

I'm "perhapsing" he might guard players in areas .He..being SG..maybe...hard to know

Footy is not one dimensional...and players must adapt and do their job.

I think ...tbh.. Mr H simply found his job replaced.  He's a club Premiership Champion. 

I wish him luck and happiness. 

32 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

It’s an easy concept @beelzebub.
 

Go onto an opposition player. Stay close, block him, stop his running ability and running patterns, be physical, stop him from getting the ball. If he gets the ball, nullify his possession output by putting pressure on. Create turnovers. 
 

When we have the ball. Provide an option, make him accountable, make sure your possessions hurt and turn his focus from attack to make him accountable. Putting him off his game. 
 

A Nagger…. Harmes was good at it many times. 
 

Capiche 🤔🤔🤔?? 😜🤪😂

Sorry..you're addressing me because  ??? 

34 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Then has to work on his decision making then....

One might beget the other....

15 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Remember the if you had yellow writing on the inside of packaging, you got a free one.

Yep....a schoolmate of mine's parents had a milkbar....   resultingly he knew all about the "Frees"..  there was actually a particular coding on the outside that verified the inside...If you knew what to look for ;)

We were at a milkbar just opposite Central Park Malvern way way way back...   We went in...searched through teh freezer cabinbet and both selected our Sunny Boys......ate them...went back in for our frees.......ate them....both went back in for our Frees....  The owner told us in no uncertain terms about coming back in !!! ...dint mind...we were pretty full as a goog by then ;)   We had a lot of frees ;)

34 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

Interview in The Age today identifies North, Hawks, GWS and Gold Coast as the clubs that have interviewed him. Interesting that we apparently have not shown interest, at least so far. 

Are we actually after Reid ?

It to me seems highly unlikely we could manufacture a path to his selection.

Im thinking we have a couple of others in mind..ie.. 2 players... in top 12.

Quite possibly the Dees for Harley is some form of construct..  but more a smokescreen